Let me get this straight this clown didn't want drug testing which stalled the fight but not says he agrees to them
Now this clown said 50/50 or no fight but not he wants 55/45
How can there be any question as to why the fight hasn't happened?
Let me get this straight this clown didn't want drug testing which stalled the fight but not says he agrees to them
Now this clown said 50/50 or no fight but not he wants 55/45
How can there be any question as to why the fight hasn't happened?
How are you able to have this thread up? If I or anyone else posts a thread not even insulting Floyd just questioning him with facts it gets deleted fast. While you straight up call Pacman a Clown and posting a repeart of a Comments thread already made about the 55/45 split.
Anyway it seems you fl0mo and pac haters are never satisfied you are in desperation mode to defend your fighter to the dying breath, so you have to reach, isnt this what you guys wanted to hear? pacman straight out of his mouth clear as day! he wants the fight, he isnt scared the guy was ****ing laughing for crying out loud, and pacman stuttering and having trouble with english is normal, but floyd stuttering and sweating when the topic of pacman comes up shows fear.
just stop already.
LOL. Tony was destroyed by Mosley and had got suspended for a year. Had a comeback fight where looked like boo boo and then magically got the Manny fight? Please. A sham fight, no matter what way you look at it. And Tony wasn't the guy he was prior to fighting Manny. Let's be real here.
That Tony was not the zombie that Mosley KO, that is for real. A sham fight for that title does not take away that Pacman beat him. That Tony is ten time more dangerous that the Mosley that Floyd beat. So please, spare the rest of your bias opinion.
BTW, I am not a fan of the guy. I am a fan of the sport. I am not making excuses for him. I am stating things that some haters like to ignore.
Paq takes the test after every round, gets 20/80 and the fight will still not happen. Wake up, people. Floyd is terrified of the one-dimensional midget. He will never fight Paqcuiao. He was just pretending he did. Paq's mistake was not calling Maynever's bluffs from the very beginning. Floyd should have been exposed a long time ago. We would not have been discussing this useless crap. It's over. Floyd wants none of Paq at any condition. It's obvious. Even God can't make Floyd fight Paq. He's scared of Paq. Let's move on.
well pac can't make 150+ comfortably...i think they thought since cotto offered 150 to margarito that it would be okay to ask 150lb from cotto...it's not like pac vs cotto 2 is something the world wanted to see. team pac offered 150 lbs to see if cotto would accept, he didn't, and they felt it wasn't a big enough of a fight to try and propose another offer..at least that's how i see it.
so in other words, its ok for manny to negotiate any way just not floyd or anyone else. i got it.
I asked about the rematch negotiations. so floyd has to keep making a better offer until manny says yes. is this the way manny negotiated with cotto regarding the rematch?
well pac can't make 150+ comfortably...i think they thought since cotto offered 150 to margarito that it would be okay to ask 150lb from cotto...it's not like pac vs cotto 2 is something the world wanted to see. team pac offered 150 lbs to see if cotto would accept, he didn't, and they felt it wasn't a big enough of a fight to try and propose another offer..at least that's how i see it.
well one or a couple of test as opposed to full on random drug testing..isn't that a big difference?
whatever the case with sauerland they didn't put it into effect until 2010 i think..so whether or not floyd did it first or sauerland is probably something that is debateable. but certainly floyd brought the idea of random drug testing into the mainstream since he and pac were two of the biggest names in boxing at the time.
here's a link to an old thread about it: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364454
I asked about the rematch negotiations. so floyd has to keep making a better offer until manny says yes. is this the way manny negotiated with cotto regarding the rematch?
From my recollection that was being done before 2010 by Sauerland.
Are you really gonna be that nitpicky over whether the test Tyson asked Holyfield to take was random?
well one or a couple of test as opposed to full on random drug testing..isn't that a big difference?
whatever the case with sauerland they didn't put it into effect until 2010 i think..so whether or not floyd did it first or sauerland is probably something that is debateable. but certainly floyd brought the idea of random drug testing into the mainstream since he and pac were two of the biggest names in boxing at the time.
here's a link to an old thread about it: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364454
so floyd has to keep making a better offer until manny says yes. is this the way manny negotiated with cotto regarding the rematch?
didn't team pac offer a lower weight or something, but cotto said absolutely no to that, and they later settled with 145 lbs. which cotto said in a video interview that it wasn't going to be a problem making 145lbs?
didn't the sauerland was put into effect in 2010? floyd asked for random testing in late 2009 if i'm not mistaken. and was the tyson vs holyfield random drug testing?
From my recollection that was being done before 2010 by Sauerland.
Are you really gonna be that nitpicky over whether the test Tyson asked Holyfield to take was random?
its part of negotiations!..you bring up one offer, the guy rejects it, you bring up another offer (a better offer), and there is a chance he may or may not say no. floyd brought up 14 day cut off, pac rejects it, and what does floyd do? he says nope thats it no more cut offs. floyd is already trying to bring up something that HAS NEVER BEEN ASKED BEFORE...even if there was a 24 cut off or 30 day cut off..floyd still gets his extra testing and pac gets a cut off he can agree with. NEGOTIATIONS.
so floyd has to keep making a better offer until manny says yes. is this the way manny negotiated with cotto regarding the rematch?
ha, no im saying that pacquiao was willing to fight, but mayweather was only willing to fight if he got extra tests, seems to be alot of objections from mayweather fans unsurprisingly.
That is obviously true but I feel the test also should have never been a problem but I am not the fighters so my opinion on the matter doesn't count.
There we go. You finally tapped out.
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And man, this is a really slow day at work because I never talk about this whole fiasco anymore.
consider it what you want, thats my opinion.
Actually Mike Tyson asked Holyfield to take a steriods test and all of Saurerland fighters and opponents have to take random steriod testing before they fight. All done before PBF asked that of Manny.
But carry on good sir!
didn't the sauerland was put into effect in 2010? floyd asked for random testing in late 2009 if i'm not mistaken. and was the tyson vs holyfield random drug testing?
well look you can argue until your blue in the face, its my opinion that pac was willing to fight, mayweather was only willing to fight if he got extra drug tests. thats all there is to it.
There we go. You finally tapped out.
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And man, this is a really slow day at work because I never talk about this whole fiasco anymore.
I think it's hilarious how you keep missing my point when I bring up the commission. You don't see the double standards? Manny does want he wants and goes over the commission when he wants. Then, when someone wants to do it, he hides behind that same commission. Kinda hilarious.
well look you can argue until your blue in the face, its my opinion that pac was willing to fight, mayweather was only willing to fight if he got extra drug tests. thats all there is to it.
Actually Mike Tyson asked Holyfield to take a steriods test and all of Saurerland fighters and opponents have to take random steriod testing before they fight. All done before PBF asked that of Manny.
But carry on good sir!
And I personally know Evander and I've talked to him about that situation.
ha, no im saying that pacquiao was willing to fight, but mayweather was only willing to fight if he got extra tests, seems to be alot of objections from mayweather fans unsurprisingly.
I'm saying (and have posted links to back up what I've said), that Manny WAS GOING TO FIGHT with those extra tests, but weaseled his way out.