Of course Cotto has to beat Trout first, which will be no easy task at all. But if Alvarez were to fight and beat Cotto next May possibly, would he deserve a Floyd fight???
Beating the Cotto/Trout winner would without a doubt be the biggest win at 154 besides beating Floyd himself.
He would be beating the last guy Floyd fought so of course he would deserve it. Who else would deserve it more except possibly Pacquiao or Martinez and those fights seem unlikely to happen.
And whats with this "deserved" to fight Floyd shyt? The only thing Floyd requires is that you bring some bread to the table and Alvarez can. Hes a prize fighter.
If Alvarez beats Cotto which I think he will. No doubt Floyd will want that fight. Cotto is the second biggest draw in the sport as it is. Cotto-Alvarez on PPV would just make Alvarez bigger.
Alvarez is also a slow, flat footed, come forward fighter with no defence.
Perfect.
Cotto is on the decline regardless, I think he struggled with Tout badly, may take ROBBERY at MSG to get past him and assure a fight with Canelo but I think either Trout or Canelo will defeat Cotto...I personally don't want to see that happen and I hope I am wrong but the man been in a lot of WARS over the years, that is going to catch up to him eventually
I think his resilient effort against Mayweather may have been his LAST...but...we shall see!
I understand and I agree cause money talks and bull**** runs a marathon at the end of the day. As Snoop Pearson said "Deserve got nothing to do with it" so I feel where you coming from. Maybe deserve was the wrong word to use, but in my eyes the dude still gotta at least prove himself both as a legit threat and a quality opponent or at least a challenge. Canelo gets outclassed in the worst way at this point in his career. We would all just wind up paying 60 bucks for another 12 round whitewash
I could see that side of it. Right now as things stand I think Floyd beats him up pretty good but I know Saul has a punchers chance and against an aging inactive Floyd that could make it interesting but yeah I fully expect Floyd to dominate him. I think it will look similar to the Cotto fight.
Alvarez is a bigger, stronger and faster version of the ODH that he fought in 2007.
And whats with this "deserved" to fight Floyd shyt? The only thing Floyd requires is that you bring some bread to the table and Alvarez can. Hes a prize fighter.
If Alvarez beats Cotto which I think he will. No doubt Floyd will want that fight. Cotto is the second biggest draw in the sport as it is. Cotto-Alvarez on PPV would just make Alvarez bigger.
so "theoretically", if we were to give lara the williams fight it would definitely put lara on top of molina then, way more of a legit opponent then anybody molina has fought.
so it seems like no matter how you put it, molina can barely make the top 5. on your list.
I agree. Williams is better win that Kirkland. Plus who is to say that Molina was not going to get KO by Kirkland anyways since Kirkland knocked him down.
1. Mayweather
2. Cotto
3. Canelo
4. Lara/Molina
5. Lara/Molina
If you give Molina the "robberies" against Kirkland/Lara. You would also have to give Lara the Paul Williams fight.
so "theoretically", if we were to give lara the williams fight it would definitely put lara on top of molina then, way more of a legit opponent then anybody molina has fought.
so it seems like no matter how you put it, molina can barely make the top 5. on your list.
1. Mayweather
2. Cotto
3. Canelo
4. Lara/Molina
5. Lara/Molina
If you give Molina the "robberies" against Kirkland/Lara. You would also have to give Lara the Paul Williams fight.
If Alvarez beats Cotto then yeah I'd like to see the Mayweather fight. But that can wait.
I'd rather Martinez or Pacquaio for now.
Alvarez can fight the other top 154 Lbers.
I don't have to reach for the stars. It's pretty easy to me to see that no one really deserves that #1 title. You I'm sure if it was a boxer you'd hate(like Margarito) for example, you'd totally agree with me. Even when I'm talking about Canelo you make it seem it's just Cotto :lol1:. Oh well to each his own.
i agree with your canelo statements...
again bringing margarito and angulo into this is reaching for the stars like i stated before...
Yea but apart from that....give Molina the Lara/Kirkland(who I'm a big fan of) robberies and it's much better than Cotto/Alvarez. You're trying to spin it as only Cotto....I'm telling you that Canelo too is guilty of this.
No one has the right to be called the best yet. Not Cotto, Not Canelo, Not Lara, etc.
how about whats done is done....
it seems like your reaching for the stars to prove your point now.
If the ring, which as of this forum everybody seems to agree is the most legit boxing body, says cotto is number 1, its for a reason bro, and if molina is number 6, thats how it is. Number 6 is a respectable contender.
Cintron beat one of the best in the division at the time in Perro....you remember how you guys jumped the bandwagon when he beat him right? Hmmmm!
If you take away the robberies, it ****s on anything Cotto/Canelo has done.
It's a boxing forum and the thread was at the top, so I commented on it. I know you and other Cotto cheerleaders just go to Cotto threads but if you actually look I post in others as well. Fucking idiot.
that was 2 years earlier, before a long layoff bro... he wasn't the same fighter when he fought molina....
i'm not saying you don't post in others, i'm just saying you never miss a cotto thread lol.
He's only doing it to make it seem like the Floyd win is the best thing ever since sliced bread. That's how fanboys work.
Wtf? I could careless.
Im talking about in regards to Cotto-Alvarez. Hes been running around, ducking and beating around the bush for 3 pages.
Cotto/Floyd is the Number 1 JMW. Cmon thats common knowledge regardless if your Mexican or Puerto Rican.
No one at JMW has a better case than Cotto especially if you dont count Floyd.
WHo is the number 1 guy? No one has named anybody other than Cotto.
Are you really this dense? Just because Cotto doesnt have a world beater resume at 154 doesnt mean the division doesnt get ranked troll.
Cotto at 154: Beat up Foreman, Mayorga and Margarito. Lost to Floyd.
Who at 154 has done MORE and deserves to be ranked higher than Cotto? Please name them.
Cotto is the Number 1 JMW.
Now give me your Top 5 JMWs. No more childish run around. Name your top 5 JMWs. If thats not in your post this is your last response. Its too early to feed trolls.
Cintron beat one of the best in the division at the time in Perro....you remember how you guys jumped the bandwagon when he beat him right? Hmmmm!
If you take away the robberies, it ****s on anything Cotto/Canelo has done.
It's a boxing forum and the thread was at the top, so I commented on it. I know you and other Cotto cheerleaders just go to Cotto threads but if you actually look I post in others as well. Fucking idiot.
Kill the name calling, bro.
Why does he have to be? What has he done?
Why can't you answer?
Are you really this dense? Just because Cotto doesnt have a world beater resume at 154 doesnt mean the division doesnt get ranked troll. :rofl:
Cotto at 154: Beat up Foreman, Mayorga and Margarito. Lost to Floyd.
Who at 154 has done MORE and deserves to be ranked higher than Cotto? Please name them.
Cotto is the Number 1 JMW.
Now give me your Top 5 JMWs. No more childish run around. Name your top 5 JMWs. If thats not in your post this is your last response. Its too early to feed trolls.