how do you feel he would have done vs following @140
mosley (i know he skipped it, but imagine)
de la hoya
mayweather
cotto
pacquiao
bradley
matthysse
how many of these does he beat?
mosley: WIN 70-30 in favor of Kostya, boxes his damn face off
de la hoya: WIN 60-40 in favor of Kostya, close but clear UD 7-5 type of an affair
mayweather: LOSS 60-40 in favor of Floyd, close UD/SD for Floyd
cotto: WIN 80-20 in favor of Kostya, Cotto is getting KTFO
pacquiao: WIN 70-30 in favor of Kostya, bad match up for a guy who gets hit with right hands. Pac is going to sleep.
bradley: LOL, Bradley sucks, nothing to discuss here
matthysse: really??? have you guys not watch a Kostya fight, I like Lucas a lot but this is a 9-3 type of fight for Kostya, he may loose a couple oo early rounds, but once he has him timed, its over.
Most people forgot about Kostya, be he would beat all but Floyd here, adn some of these fights are not even close.
look at what cotto could do against floyd. kostya would make floyd do the chicken dance worse than old man mosley did but has the finishing skills to leave floyd sleeping.
basically an excellent post. damn, some of u guys here bring back hope. I thought bscene is a complete sh*thole filled with retards. I also wanted to mention the Tszyu - Forrest fight in which Tszyu outboxed a world class amateur even though Forrest was a lot bigger than him. Btw Forrest had a 5 inch height and 6 inch (!!!) reach advantage over Tszyu. And now go watch the fight and see how Tszyu wins.
I think the bottom line is of that list only Oscar, Floyd, Pacquiao and Cotto can beat Tszyu, but in my mind I think actually only Floyd, Pac and de la Hoya can do it, but I think Tszyu would beat 2 of those 3, but I dont know which two.... :)
Tszyu Forrest is my favourite fight ever.KT in the ams was incredible blistering handspeed,great foot and head movement,punch variation and super combos.Its funny in another fight against another top US amateur Terron Millett after dominating the fight the commentator says the only knock on Tszyu is he does not have crushing power
mosley: WIN 70-30 in favor of Kostya, boxes his damn face off
de la hoya: WIN 60-40 in favor of Kostya, close but clear UD 7-5 type of an affair
mayweather: LOSS 60-40 in favor of Floyd, close UD/SD for Floyd
cotto: WIN 80-20 in favor of Kostya, Cotto is getting KTFO
pacquiao: WIN 70-30 in favor of Kostya, bad match up for a guy who gets hit with right hands. Pac is going to sleep.
bradley: LOL, Bradley sucks, nothing to discuss here
matthysse: really??? have you guys not watch a Kostya fight, I like Lucas a lot but this is a 9-3 type of fight for Kostya, he may loose a couple oo early rounds, but once he has him timed, its over.
Most people forgot about Kostya, be he would beat all but Floyd here, adn some of these fights are not even close.
basically an excellent post. damn, some of u guys here bring back hope. I thought bscene is a complete sh*thole filled with retards. I also wanted to mention the Tszyu - Forrest fight in which Tszyu outboxed a world class amateur even though Forrest was a lot bigger than him. Btw Forrest had a 5 inch height and 6 inch (!!!) reach advantage over Tszyu. And now go watch the fight and see how Tszyu wins.
I think the bottom line is of that list only Oscar, Floyd, Pacquiao and Cotto can beat Tszyu, but in my mind I think actually only Floyd, Pac and de la Hoya can do it, but I think Tszyu would beat 2 of those 3, but I dont know which two.... :)
mosley: WIN 70-30 in favor of Kostya, boxes his damn face off
de la hoya: WIN 60-40 in favor of Kostya, close but clear UD 7-5 type of an affair
mayweather: LOSS 60-40 in favor of Floyd, close UD/SD for Floyd
cotto: WIN 80-20 in favor of Kostya, Cotto is getting KTFO
pacquiao: WIN 70-30 in favor of Kostya, bad match up for a guy who gets hit with right hands. Pac is going to sleep.
bradley: LOL, Bradley sucks, nothing to discuss here
matthysse: really??? have you guys not watch a Kostya fight, I like Lucas a lot but this is a 9-3 type of fight for Kostya, he may loose a couple oo early rounds, but once he has him timed, its over.
Most people forgot about Kostya, be he would beat all but Floyd here, adn some of these fights are not even close.
Beats all IMO & probably stops them too except Matthysse & Marquez with Bradley being a toss up.
I bet he does but some would make a decent fight of it.
Also I see a good kayo high light khan haha
tszyu did very well against boxers and speedsters. as manny steward pointed out before the hatton fight, tszyu struggles aginst pressure fights that smother him. against boxers, tszyu had great timing and could land big shots with his straight punches, under rated hand speed and great timing.
mosley - tsyzu by UD
de la hoya - toss up
mayweather - toss up
cotto - tszyu in a war, maybe a late KO
pacquiao - tszyu close decision
bradley - tszyu UD maybe KO
matthysse - tszyu UD
The only person in that list that you could expect to beat tszyu is Mayweather. The rest could get beat by tszyu. You can tell who knows something about past fighters in this thread and who hasn't got a fcuking clue.
Do people realise that tszyu was easily a top 10 all time light welterweight?
exactly. Actually Tszyu is a top 3 light Welterweight on most lists.
Some of the responses here are embarrassing.
exactly. bunch of retards posting here who dont know anything about boxing history. Lucas Matthysse beats an over the hill Judah (and gets robbed) and an over the hill-moving up the weight class Humberto Soto, and now suddenly Matthysse beats one of the most skillful fighters I ever saw in my life (Kostya Tszyu that is) ???
Tszyu had one of the highest ring IQs I ever saw and sick power. I wouldnt be surprised that on his best night Tszyu beats Pacquiao and Mayweather at 140, and I would favor Tszyu over De la Hoya and Cotto.
The only person in that list that you could expect to beat tszyu is Mayweather. The rest could get beat by tszyu. You can tell who knows something about past fighters in this thread and who hasn't got a fcuking clue.
Do people realise that tszyu was easily a top 10 all time light welterweight?
Shouldn't the list be with today's fighters?
Khan
Garcia
Alexander
Bradley
Maidana
Matysee or however it's spelled
Holt?
Even the magic man is more recent there
Marquez
Peterson
That would be better most of the guys on that list would spark him de la Hoya was to big
Shane to big to strong to fast
Idk honestly about PAC he only fought there once.
I forgot who else was there.
Beats all IMO & probably stops them too except Matthysse & Marquez with Bradley being a toss up.
Shouldn't the list be with today's fighters?
Khan
Garcia
Alexander
Bradley
Maidana
Matysee or however it's spelled
Holt?
Even the magic man is more recent there
Marquez
Peterson
That would be better most of the guys on that list would spark him de la Hoya was to big
Shane to big to strong to fast
Idk honestly about PAC he only fought there once.
I forgot who else was there.
You guys are absolute retards. I can't believe you tards think KT would lose to Matthyse and Tim Bradley. I'd back him to beat Cotto at 140 and prob MP too.
No, he was winning round two and judah is just a retarded moron, he has mental lapses which is why he was even dropped by corey spinks.
How could you possibly have had Judah winning round 2 before he was KO'd? He did nothing the whole round.
but for me not a good enough one too stay out off trouble with KT who along with the power timed guys excellently
On Cotto i just feel at 140 he was way way too shaky he killed himself at the weight.
Bit off an essay but thats my opinion
Zab dropped his hands also, no credit for wins based off your opponents being beyond retarded while they were winning the fights, sorry. If you want to give those guys credit for those wins, then so be it, but i wont.
Winning the fight? He won round 1 but only a blind man would have gave him 2. You make it sound like he was 10 rounds up. LOL Judah always had his hands down, that was his style.
but for me not a good enough one too stay out off trouble with KT who along with the power timed guys excellently
On Cotto i just feel at 140 he was way way too shaky he killed himself at the weight.
Bit off an essay but thats my opinion