LOL @ Hopkins: Canelo beats Martinez 'easy'

canelo is pretty good but sexy sergio would stomp him pretty bad

Pavlik actually impressed me in this fight. In the mid rounds, he made some good adjustments and it was anyones fight going into the later rounds when Martinez closed well. Martinez doesn't seem to make adjustments to me in the ring and that's the main reason I think Mayweather would beat him. I taught he won every fight by making adjustments in da ring? How did he beat Macklin, Barka, Dzinz, Pavlik and Williams da way he did? He retook da fight momentum to win afta da mid rounds in 4 of dos fights.

If dis Canelo wants to man up and come to 160, then I say let him come get a loss on dat record.

I see jealousy with Hopkins over the attention Martinez receives at the weight division that he once ruled over years ago. Lol, jealousy. Former MW Ring champion, 20 title defenses. Held the WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF, and Ring titles at the same time at 160. To top it off, let's see Martinez jump 15lbs to 175, and fight the Ring champion there. He refuses to fight the 168 Ring champion, so forget about 175. Jealousy? Come on, you guys are gonna make me start bashing Martinez. I don't wanna do that.

Does Hopkins work for Golden Boy? I see jealousy with Hopkins over the attention Martinez receives at the weight division that he once ruled over years ago.

Bit testy aren't you? I know what Macklins worth is and am on record for calling him a good win - it doesn't change the fact that he's a clown. Did I call him a Bum? A Nobody? A scrub? No. I called him a clown. It's lingo, get with the program. You're a clown too, as am I. Deal with it. And does it matter what it says about a fighter? If he doesn't want to train entirely for a fight, so the hell what. It's the results that matter. Every fighter is going to tell you they trained just as hard this time as they did last time - hell, Sergio is onr ecord for saying that about Barker AND Macklin. " This is my best camp yet! ". That's what they're SUPPOSED TO SAY, but if you actually believe that mess then I don't know what to tell you. Floyd was on record for saying he didn't train properly for Augustus for example. The guys record was trash, he thought it was a cake walk - BOOM - turns out the dude came to fight. So wtf you talking about? Another dumb post by you. He tapped Sergio on the top of the head, sergio lost his balance hence the arms wailing. In the slow mo replay they show his leg trapped on kellys. Wow, I use to see the name -Kev- and think "here comes a great post". Now.....I'll just chuckle ahead of time. "No punch involved." "It was a small little tap." :lol1: I used to see the name "intoccabile" and think here comes a sh-t post. Now.....Nothing will change.

LMFAO. I just caught this bullsh-t post. "There wasn't even a punch involved". 0:37 seconds So WTF is that then, a f-cking kick? Don't be a fool. That was a KNOCK DOWN. Off balance, Sergio slipped, I don;t want to hear that bullsh-t. Pavlik threw two punches and Sergio went down because of them. Most of the people in this thread defending Martinez, who I actually like, are not even speaking facts. They are just all over the place, just talking crap. Let's be real here. Right but theres a difference between a knockdown like the Pavlik and Williams ones where they punched and Martinez slipped/fell, it counts because a punch was thrown but he didn't go down because of the severity of the punch it was down to balance and the partial force of the punch landing. Then theres the Chavez knockdown where he went down mainly because of the force of the punch and a small part of it was balance.

I actually think Canelo is better than Martinez in many areas. He has a greater variety of punches (Martinez throws mostly 1-2s while Canelo has every punch in the book) he has better timing, is the better counter puncher and better body puncher. Now styles make fights and like I said before, Canelo doesn't like movers BUT there's a difference between fundamentally sound movers like Floyd or Ward and unorthodox movers like Martinez. The unorthodox movers are easier to trap and they usually don't have good defense on the inside because of lack of upper body movement and clinching. Even prime Roy wasn't that hard to hit once you got his back against the ropes. The few times Canelo would get in range, he would do a lot of damage to Martinez's head and body. Would it be enough to win the fight? I don't know. ^^ Somebody who knows his shit. Martinez showed good inside game against a 180 pounds Chavez Jr. He got caught in the end because he was way too confident because he was easily winning the fight, but you can clearly see through the first 11 rounds that Jr got him on the ropes a few times and Martinez answered back and even made Jr retreat.

Right firstly Canelo can punch against 140 pounders that is all he has proven thus far. Although Mosley has a great chin he should have been stopped by Canelo at that point in his career if Alvarez's power is anything to go by. Didn't Hatton go 12 rounds with Canelo, a domestic level welterweight?. I hope Golovkin goes down to 154 and ends another mexican myth fighter. And im not against Mexicans in general, Mares is a superb fighter and that Beltran the other night looked classy even in defeat. Alvarez' career at 154 is a joke and he campaigns there as a PPV draw, Sergio had trouble getting a decent opponent at 154 then beat everyone put infront of him at 160 as the top guy there to be shot at. Slag of Barker and Macklin all you like but I think they have a shot at beating Alvarez who is more than capable of fighting at 160. Alvarez is young yes but thets not pretend the sun shines out of his arse until he beats a legit 154 pounder. You could be right about Canelo but I believe im right about Martinez. In 08 he was average in an average JMW division. And at 37 I believe Serg is better off as a MW where he can dominate fighters athletically. I think a cut back to JMW will hurt more than help Serg at this point in his life. I think he could loose to any of the top JMWs.

LMFAO. I just caught this bullsh-t post. "There wasn't even a punch involved". 0:37 seconds So WTF is that then, a f-cking kick? Don't be a fool. That was a KNOCK DOWN. Off balance, Sergio slipped, I don;t want to hear that bullsh-t. Pavlik threw two punches and Sergio went down because of them. No punch involved my ass. Most of the people in this thread defending Martinez, who I actually like, are not even speaking facts. They are just all over the place, just talking crap. Let's be real here. Another dumb post by you. He tapped Sergio on the top of the head, sergio lost his balance hence the arms wailing. In the slow mo replay they show his leg trapped on kellys. Wow, I use to see the name -Kev- and think "here comes a great post". Now.....I'll just chuckle ahead of time.

That tells a lot about a fighter. Did you see Mayweather not taking the Tony Pep's, Angel Manfredy's, Justin Jukko's serious because of the level they were in? And calling Matthew Macklin a clown, I think you're the clown here. He just came off of beating Felix Sturm, he should have been WBA champion coming in to the Sergio fight. Lol @ Macklin being a clown. Who the hell are you to call him a clown? Bit testy aren't you? I know what Macklins worth is and am on record for calling him a good win - it doesn't change the fact that he's a clown. Did I call him a Bum? A Nobody? A scrub? No. I called him a clown. It's lingo, get with the program. You're a clown too, as am I. Deal with it. And does it matter what it says about a fighter? If he doesn't want to train entirely for a fight, so the hell what. It's the results that matter. Every fighter is going to tell you they trained just as hard this time as they did last time - hell, Sergio is onr ecord for saying that about Barker AND Macklin. " This is my best camp yet! ". That's what they're SUPPOSED TO SAY, but if you actually believe that mess then I don't know what to tell you. Floyd was on record for saying he didn't train properly for Augustus for example. The guys record was trash, he thought it was a cake walk - BOOM - turns out the dude came to fight. So wtf you talking about?

Canelo doesn't have to hit me, I can tell by looking at the way his opponents react, the guy hits hard as hell. Williams, Pavlik, and Chavez Jr managed to knock down Martinez, I know Canelo can do it too. Canelo can knock Martinez out if he gets careless. BTW, I know you noticed it too, Sergio's head movement against Chavez Jr. It was non-existent. This is not the first time he shows his lack of head movement, but that would dangerous against Canelo. You let Canelo tee off on you like that, he's gonna hurt you badly. He didn't have to dodge much. Chavez threw 15 punches per round, didn't jab, and didn't cut the ring.

LMFAO. I just caught this bullsh-t post. "There wasn't even a punch involved". 0:37 seconds So WTF is that then, a f-cking kick? Don't be a fool. That was a KNOCK DOWN. Off balance, Sergio slipped, I don;t want to hear that bullsh-t. Pavlik threw two punches and Sergio went down because of them. No punch involved my ass. Most of the people in this thread defending Martinez, who I actually like, are not even speaking facts. They are just all over the place, just talking crap. Let's be real here. Pavlik actually impressed me in this fight. In the mid rounds, he made some good adjustments and it was anyones fight going into the later rounds when Martinez closed well. Martinez doesn't seem to make adjustments to me in the ring and that's the main reason I think Mayweather would beat him.

LOL @ Calling the Williams and Pavlik SLIPS knockdowns. ESPECIALLy that pavlik crap, there wasn't even a punch involved. LMFAO. I just caught this bullsh-t post. "There wasn't even a punch involved". 0:37 seconds So WTF is that then, a f-cking kick? Don't be a fool. That was a KNOCK DOWN. Off balance, Sergio slipped, I don;t want to hear that bullsh-t. Pavlik threw two punches and Sergio went down because of them. No punch involved my ass. Most of the people in this thread defending Martinez, who I actually like, are not even speaking facts. They are just all over the place, just talking crap. Let's be real here.

Are people really this dumb? Didn't we just find out what happens when you step up in competition? When a determined Martinez shows up? Yeah Barker and Macklin looked good, these were nobodies, Martinez probably didn't even take these clowns seriously. Williams, Pavlik, Dzinziruk and Chavez weren't nobodies though. It's not a coincidence that Martinez makes men far better than Barker and Macklin look far worse. It's because he actually showed up. He'd show up again against Alvarez. It wouldn't be pretty. That tells a lot about a fighter. Did you see Mayweather not taking the Tony Pep's, Angel Manfredy's, Justin Jukko's serious because of the level they were in? And calling Matthew Macklin a clown, I think you're the clown here. He just came off of beating Felix Sturm, he should have been WBA champion coming in to the Sergio fight. Lol @ Macklin being a clown. Who the hell are you to call him a clown?

Haters gonna hate:boxing:

Hopkins is basically a salesman for Gloden Boy, ofcourse hes gunna say **** like this. Me i refuse to even achknowledge that ginger kids win on saturday, 30+ fights and then fights a 140 pounder! a stone over his natural weight. That ginger kid should of knocked Lopez out within a round and Hopkins thinks hes ready for Martinez and Mayweather? I think Cotto will teach him a thing or two still. Ginger can **** off and fight Julia in a battle of mexican cheating hype jobs. http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af6/getrealman09/31-Roc-Boyz.gif

Right firstly Canelo can punch against 140 pounders that is all he has proven thus far. Although Mosley has a great chin he should have been stopped by Canelo at that point in his career if Alvarez's power is anything to go by. Didn't Hatton go 12 rounds with Canelo, a domestic level welterweight?. I hope Golovkin goes down to 154 and ends another mexican myth fighter. And im not against Mexicans in general, Mares is a superb fighter and that Beltran the other night looked classy even in defeat. Alvarez' career at 154 is a joke and he campaigns there as a PPV draw, Sergio had trouble getting a decent opponent at 154 then beat everyone put infront of him at 160 as the top guy there to be shot at. Slag of Barker and Macklin all you like but I think they have a shot at beating Alvarez who is more than capable of fighting at 160. Alvarez is young yes but thets not pretend the sun shines out of his arse until he beats a legit 154 pounder. Golovkin sparred with Canelo. They won't put him in with Golovkin if they know he'd get beat.

Bernard isnt that crasy. Yes Canelo has flaws and yes hes been protected but the dude can punch. Plus hes got some offensive skill. Obviously Serg is the more accomplished boxer but Sergs resume at 154 is less than sh1tty. Paul Williams is a stick figure, Palvik was on his 3rd scotch, by the time he got ringside, Chavez' body has always been soft, and that Irish dude was even through 10 rounds so im not overreacting. The last 4 years have been great for Serg but hes a full blown MW now. At 37 years of age im not convinced he can maintain that speed and power if he cuts down to 154. It's easier for me to assume he will go back to being the good not great fighter that he was before. In a weaker 154 division in 08. Right firstly Canelo can punch against 140 pounders that is all he has proven thus far. Although Mosley has a great chin he should have been stopped by Canelo at that point in his career if Alvarez's power is anything to go by. Didn't Hatton go 12 rounds with Canelo, a domestic level welterweight?. I hope Golovkin goes down to 154 and ends another mexican myth fighter. And im not against Mexicans in general, Mares is a superb fighter and that Beltran the other night looked classy even in defeat. Alvarez' career at 154 is a joke and he campaigns there as a PPV draw, Sergio had trouble getting a decent opponent at 154 then beat everyone put infront of him at 160 as the top guy there to be shot at. Slag off Barker and Macklin all you like but I think they have a shot at beating Alvarez who is more than capable of fighting at 160. Alvarez is young yes but thets not pretend the sun shines out of his arse until he beats a legit 154 pounder.

Does Hopkins work for Golden Boy? Hopkins is basically a salesman for Gloden Boy, ofcourse hes gunna say **** like this. Me i refuse to even achknowledge that ginger kids win on saturday, 30+ fights and then fights a 140 pounder! a stone over his natural weight. That ginger kid should of knocked Lopez out within a round and Hopkins thinks hes ready for Martinez and Mayweather? I think Cotto will teach him a thing or two still. Ginger can **** off and fight Julia in a battle of mexican cheating hype jobs.