Rank these Super Middleweight resumes.

Joe calzaghe has athletes gifts beyond compare, how could Roy and Hopkins possibly compete with him who are the so called prime top fighters andre ward beat?....... carl froch was 35 when ward fought him froch got his 0 and his belt took by kessler The biggest name ward fought was a aging mikkel kessler The hardest fight ward had was a aging sakio bika it was "a life-and-death struggle". After the fight ward's mum said that bika made her baby's face all red:baby: Lol really? RJJ in his prime was one of the most physically gifted athletes there was. It's why as he got older he faded so much because almost his entire style was based off his natural gifts... Most of your posts have been blatant bias but ... that just sealed it for me.

1. Calzaghe 2. Ward 3. Froch Calzaghe beat peak Kessler without using headbutts and other fouls. Eubank, Lacy, prime Mitchell, Brewer, and Bika among others were good wins. Joe cleaned out the super-middleweight division. Froch lost to Ward and Kessler. Dawson was weight-drained so not too much credit should be given for that Ward win. calzaghe throws almost all his punches with the inside of the glove which as clearly stated in the rules is illegal and is a foul.

You aren't serious right? How can you compare Calzaghes athleticism and Roy's athleticism lol. Sure Joe beat Roy, but Roy was way past prime with losses to people he would have dominated during his prime. Roy never had a good chin in my opinion, his athleticism allowed him to be effectively undefeated in 49 fights at 154, 160, 175 and 200+. Roy will go down as a legend of the ring, Calzaghe hasn't really gone down as anything but an undefeated fighter with a controversial decision over Hopkins. That's saying something since Roy has 8 losses or so now, and Calzaghe has 0. His undefeated record means nothing. As for the Ward "debate", Ward has cleaned out a division in 26 fights, with a serious chance of cleaning out 175 in the very near future. In 26 fights, Joe did ****. When Ward's career is over, Calzaghe will have nothing on him. You're effectively comparing someones full career to someone who's nowhere near finished. And even then, most people would say Ward's career now is equal or greater than Calzaghes career, in only 26 fights. The point you're missing is, Ward has a serious chance of being an ATG. Roy and Hopkins will go down as Legends. Calzaghe failed to achieve both, and its something youll have to deal with. :bottle: joe calzaghe's up there with the best of the best Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano Joe calzaghe is way more athletic than roy jones Faster in hand and foot speed Better stamina Bigger and Physically strong Agility (like watching a lightweight in a super middleweight's body) Throws more punch Can adapt any circumstances Joe calzaghe has athletes gifts beyond compare Roy jones was never the same after the joe calzaghe experience:killyou:

Joe calzaghe has athletes gifts beyond compare, how could Roy and Hopkins possibly compete with him You aren't serious right? How can you compare Calzaghes athleticism and Roy's athleticism lol. Sure Joe beat Roy, but Roy was way past prime with losses to people he would have dominated during his prime. Roy never had a good chin in my opinion, his athleticism allowed him to be effectively undefeated in 49 fights at 154, 160, 175 and 200+. Roy will go down as a legend of the ring, Calzaghe hasn't really gone down as anything but an undefeated fighter with a controversial decision over Hopkins. That's saying something since Roy has 8 losses or so now, and Calzaghe has 0. His undefeated record means nothing. As for the Ward "debate", Ward has cleaned out a division in 26 fights, with a serious chance of cleaning out 175 in the very near future. In 26 fights, Joe did ****. When Ward's career is over, Calzaghe will have nothing on him. You're effectively comparing someones full career to someone who's nowhere near finished. And even then, most people would say Ward's career now is equal or greater than Calzaghes career, in only 26 fights. The point you're missing is, Ward has a serious chance of being an ATG. Roy and Hopkins will go down as Legends. Calzaghe failed to achieve both, and its something youll have to deal with. :bottle:

I cant take a guy serious with Calzaghe in his avatar while he says Ward fought nobody. Ward fought everybody while Calzaghe fought nobody. Roy and Hopkins were too old to compete with Calzaghe, so Calzaghe doesnt even belong on a list together with Ward and Froch. I have them both way above Calzaghe. While Calzaghe's best wins were against Kessler and Lacy, both Froch and Ward fought more prime top fighters and beat them. Joe calzaghe has athletes gifts beyond compare, how could Roy and Hopkins possibly compete with him who are the so called prime top fighters andre ward beat?....... carl froch was 35 when ward fought him froch got his 0 and his belt took by kessler The biggest name ward fought was a aging mikkel kessler The hardest fight ward had was a aging sakio bika it was "a life-and-death struggle". After the fight ward's mum said that bika made her baby's face all red:baby:

froch has a longer / deeper resume, but that's not the criterion upon which a resume is judged ward has the higher quality wins.

name 1 great fighter andre ward fought?....you can't name 1 undefeated champion ward fought?....you can't ward best wins are kessler and bika two guy that got whooped by a 35yr old man andre ward's a ***** calling out a 40yr old man that ain't whooped know 168 pound ass in 5 years I cant take a guy serious with Calzaghe in his avatar while he says Ward fought nobody. Ward fought everybody while Calzaghe fought nobody. Roy and Hopkins were too old to compete with Calzaghe, so Calzaghe doesnt even belong on a list together with Ward and Froch. I have them both way above Calzaghe. While Calzaghe's best wins were against Kessler and Lacy, both Froch and Ward fought more prime top fighters and beat them.

1. Ward 2 Froch 3. Calzaghe Ward being undefeated and having dominated most of his wins (including one over Froch himself) puts him at No.1 in my opinion. I agree but I also like Froch. I won't even mention the zaghe...

joe calzaghe beat 8 super middleweight champions jones was a smw champion so he stays How many smw champions his ward beat?.....don't say carl froch kessler took his 0 and his wbc belt remember so you can take him off He got that belt back cause Kessler was stripped he fought ward for it

joe calzaghe was 35 when he beat a 28yr old prime kessler andre ward was 25 when he beat a 31yr old past prime kessler jean pascal took chad dawson 0 carl froch took pascal 0 mikkel kessler took froch's 0 and his belt......... joe calzaghe took kessler 0 and his belts and andre ward fights everybody's leftovers What else needs to be explained?........ "Ward fights everybody's leftovers" Lol, wow... when Pascal gave Dawson that violent beating, he was never the same... Despite going on to defeat the guy that schooled Pascal twice... When Kessler barely beat Froch, Froch was never the same... Despite going on to the tournament finals and beating the regarded second best Super Middleweight in the world immediately following... And when Joe slapped Kessler around in that life and death match, Kessler was never the same... Despite becoming the #1 super middle weight and favorite of the tournament... And I suppose when Froch beat Pascal he was never the same... (even though this has nothing to do with anything cause neither Ward or Calzaghe fought him) despite going on to win the lineal light heavyweight title from the #1 light heavyweight I can see in the Joe Calzaghe world a loss is ALWAYS this psychologically damaging thing... Which is why Joe had to avoid it at all costs by avoiding any serious threats (ala Roy Jones, James Toney in their primes... Barely escaped with an arguable at best win over Hopkins and shit his pants at the thought of a rematch)

Past Prime and Old r 2 different things... Eubank was past prime Calzaghe's best Super Middleweight Win was against Kessler, and Ward dominated Kessler and had a much easier time doing so... Calzaghe's best win (if not Kessler) was Hopkins... Ward just beat the guy that beat Hopkins And as far as Froch... Ward beat Froch What else needs to be explained? joe calzaghe was 35 when he beat a 28yr old prime kessler andre ward was 25 when he beat a 31yr old past prime kessler jean pascal took chad dawson 0 carl froch took pascal 0 mikkel kessler took froch's 0 and his belt......... joe calzaghe took kessler 0 and his belts and andre ward fights everybody's leftovers What else needs to be explained?........

Past Prime and Old r 2 different things... Eubank was past prime Calzaghe's best Super Middleweight Win was against Kessler, and Ward dominated Kessler and had a much easier time doing so... Calzaghe's best win (if not Kessler) was Hopkins... Ward just beat the guy that beat Hopkins And as far as Froch... Ward beat Froch What else needs to be explained?

ottke is better than all those guys. you can't erase calzaghe's boogeyman. he haunts calzaghe's dreams every night. sven "Phantom" ottke is just a figment of your imagination ottke was fabricated

how long did it take hopkins, joe louis and larry holmes?......10yrs The internet Remove all traces of ottke google him Your search -sven ottke -did not match any documents. Suggestions: Make sure all words are spelled correctly. Try different keywords. Try more general keywords. ottke been erased from history ottke is better than all those guys. you can't erase calzaghe's boogeyman. he haunts calzaghe's dreams every night.

they both had 21 defenses but it only took ottke 6 years to do it while it took calzaghe 10. advantage ottke. how long did it take hopkins, joe louis and larry holmes?......10yrs The internet Remove all traces of ottke google him Your search -sven ottke -did not match any documents. Suggestions: Make sure all words are spelled correctly. Try different keywords. Try more general keywords. ottke been erased from history

joe calzaghe reign was a decade of dominance ottke was a reign of error he his been erase from history they both had 21 defenses but it only took ottke 6 years to do it while it took calzaghe 10. advantage ottke.

how was calzaghe "the world champion" when ottke was ranked number 1, sold out arenas and had 2 belts. joe had a wbo belt and was fighting in ice rinks. joe calzaghe reign was a decade of dominance ottke was a reign of error he his been erased from history

man super joe beat all the champions 8 of them he whooped them with the crowd chanting....easy...easy..easy. calzaghe was the word champion for ottke's whole career calzaghe reign 1997-2008 ottke career 1997-2004. how was calzaghe "the world champion" when ottke was ranked number 1, sold out arenas and had 2 belts. joe had a wbo belt and was fighting in ice rinks.

everyone? he didn't fight any of the other champs or anyone in the top 3 in the division until lacy. he also turned down a fight with ottke who was the number 1 and unified champ. man super joe beat all the champions 8 of them he whooped them with the crowd chanting....easy...easy..easy. calzaghe was the word champion for ottke's whole career calzaghe reign 1997-2008 ottke career 1997-2004.

Ward won the fight but the scores were too wide. But this is the same guy who scored Mayweather-Cotto to Cotto and Round 10 of Sturm-Geale ( or 8, I can't remember, whichever one was the clear Sturm round) to Geale. No surprises. It was competitive throughout but it was a very easy fight to score, the most Bika won was 3 rounds.