is there even a debate? Ward is the best 168 pound fighter ever, period. Calzaghe fought bums for 10 years then Lacy & Kessler and that's it.
Yea take away the WWs from Hopkins' middleweight reign and he don't got nothing either.
Oh but I bet it was ok for him to fight a mandatory in Hakar but not Calzaghe.
is there even a debate? Ward is the best 168 pound fighter ever, period. Calzaghe fought bums for 10 years then Lacy & Kessler and that's it.
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wards resume **** on joe's like 3 fights ago. the man hid in his backyard his whole career. fighting the bum of the month. dont get me wrong, i like joe calzaghe the man, but my love for boxing is over any one fighter. jones calzaghe didnt get made when jones was prime undefeated. why? calzaghe and warren claimed roy and prime hopkins were ducking. in reality, they were asking for a rediculous revenue split, and joe wouldnt fight in america. why should roy, king of the boxing world, accept rediculous terms when roy is the king. is ludacris. the man is not even hof imo much less an atg.
YOU CANNOT PULL A CHAVEZ JR YOUR ENTIRE CAREER, THEN FIGHT TWO OLD MEN, AND CLAIM TO BE GREAT. fought MABYE 3 live fighters his whole career.
wards resume **** on joe's like 3 fights ago. the man hid in his backyard his whole career. fighting the bum of the month. dont get me wrong, i like joe calzaghe the man, but my love for boxing is over any one fighter. jones calzaghe didnt get made when jones was prime undefeated. why? calzaghe and warren claimed roy and prime hopkins were ducking. in reality, they were asking for a rediculous revenue split, and joe wouldnt fight in america. why should roy, king of the boxing world, accept rediculous terms when roy is the king. is ludacris. the man is not even hof imo much less an atg.
YOU CANNOT PULL A CHAVEZ JR YOUR ENTIRE CAREER, THEN FIGHT TWO OLD MEN, AND CLAIM TO BE GREAT. fought MABYE 3 live fighters his whole career.
calzaghe looked like trash against bika and was huffing and puffing and grabbing on for dear life to get to the finish line. not impressive. bute looked better than both guys against bika so i guess he's best? ward's done more than calzaghe ever did and that's why he's better. calzaghe didn't fight a live opponent for almost ten years after becoming champ. ward's done nothing but fight live opponents since becoming champ.
AW - Who’s the best fighter you have fought and why? Also, who was the best puncher and best boxer?
SB (Sakio Bika)- Joe Calzaghe. He could adapt to every tactic I used in the ring. He had an advantage being a southpaw too. Jaidon Codrington has been the only boxer to knock me down. Joe Calzaghe was the best boxer.
Looking at the kessler fight, Calzaghe had a tough hard win against Kessler adjusted to win the fight, Ward crushed Kessler.
Calzaghe was not that hard to hit, and didn’t have enough power to worry Ward. Ward in my opinion wins almost every round against Calzaghe. I can’t see how people can actually think Calzaghe could win
lol don't be retarded, see the Bika fights? While Bika gave Joe a rough fight he sailed to victory easily, Ward struggled with him.
Ward is a more aggressive, smarter, more versatile Bernard Hopkins and Calzaghe BARELY beat Hopkins (arguably lost)
Ward would correct all of Hopkins mistakes and UD Calzaghe
And as far as legacy... Ward matched Calzaghe's greatest accomplishment his first fight in the super 6... And did it with much less problems, and in only his 20th pro fight
He's definitely the GREATEST SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT OF ALL TIME BY FAR
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Calzaghe fought in Britain until the end of his career averting steroid cheats
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I think Calzaghe is faster than Ward. I used to favour Ward but seeing how Dawson outboxed Ward in the first couple of rounds until he got hurt I think Joe wins.
im a fan of joe and while he might have faster hands, Ward is much stronger and would have muscled him on the inside.
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Fantasy fights are moot. The point is Andre Ward, tonight, became without question(imo) the greastest smw of all time. He has accomplished more than any other fighter at this weight.
probably true, but talent is talent and Joe beat a very good version of Hopkins, subsequently proven by performances post that fight. It's a close fight. They fight quite similarly in alot of ways, but Joe has more activity and stamina. I'd go 60-40 in his favour.
years before that hopkins had lost to taylor (in the 2nd fight) & he started to look slower. his stamina started to play up on him even years before the taylor bouts...........when joe fought him years after taylor he barely squeaked out a SD. thats not impressive to me.........& hopkins scucess was coming from the same distance style that ward loves to use.
ward has too many dimensions to me.......he can play the distance game very well & he can take you apart on the inside.........
ward has fought the better fighters. has the better resume. i don't see how calzaghie would beat ward at this point.