Torrecampo and Singsurat dropped him like a sack of potatoes. The malnourishment excuse is a fabrication, he was as fit for the division as any other fighters in it.
Haven't seen the Sanchez fight or I can't remember watching it.
Morales-Pac I was a great fight and a legitimate loss.
Pac-JMM I is a legitimate draw as the fight really could have gone either way. The scoring error excuse is pretty laughable when you consider it hinges on judges not being corrupt in the first place.
Bradley-Pac is the only loss that I would say is not legitimate. It is near impossible to score it for Bradley even giving him every benefit of the doubt.
the 3 losses are legit, but you cant knock him off with the first two and judge him totally with those like those were his ultimate weaknesses. people are still saying now that pac's weakness is body punches which is BS for me, that was like 10 years ago, his weaknesses are counterpunching, fake feints, and testing his patience and movement.
some fighters can be judge easily with their losses, i cant say the same for pac..
IMO, prime morales beat him, morales was 28 when they fought and its still BS for me that people here are saying that was a past prime morales who beat pac..
i do believe though that the morales pac KOed aint healthy no more.
I gave the 3rd Marquez fight to marquez easily. the draw is legit, imo. the 2nd could've gone either way, the KD secured it for pac..
still 4 loses IMO...
Torrecampo and Singsurat dropped him like a sack of potatoes. The malnourishment excuse is a fabrication, he was as fit for the division as any other fighters in it.
Haven't seen the Sanchez fight or I can't remember watching it.
Morales-Pac I was a great fight and a legitimate loss.
Pac-JMM I is a legitimate draw as the fight really could have gone either way. The scoring error excuse is pretty laughable when you consider it hinges on judges not being corrupt in the first place.
Bradley-Pac is the only loss that I would say is not legitimate. It is near impossible to score it for Bradley even giving him every benefit of the doubt.
Pac came in overweight and was penalized for it. I remember destroying a tards agenda about this awhile back as they where bashing Floyd about coming in overweight vs JMM (which was a BS move on Floyd).
The point is, this poster didn't know Pac had ever come in overweight before. Anyway the excuse of malnourishment could be legit however a loss is a loss. I'm a huge fan of Pac's in this era though..
Pac should have at least one loss to JMM if not 2, however the Bradley fight is the most questionable without a doubt.
how was pac fit for the singsurat if he couldn't even make weight and was even starving himself to try and make weight? no surprise he got ko'ed fight by a body shot too...Torrecampo is legit, but it was pac's 12th pro fight so you could say he was inexperienced still.
Do you feel the same about his wins against Cotto , ODLH , and Margo ?
all those guys made weight no problem...cotto said it wasn't a problem for 145..hell he was 146 in his last fight. it was odlh who wanted the fight at 147 and picked on pac who had just got to lightweight..and once again margo made 150 fine and on fight night was like 15 lbs heavier than pac. pac couldn't make flyweight against singsurat ..big sign he was struggling much like rios at 135.
how was pac fit for the singsurat fight if he couldn't even make weight and was even starving himself to try and make weight? no surprise he got ko'ed by a body shot in that fight and no surprise that he jumped up to super bantam after that fight...Torrecampo is legit, but it was pac's 12th pro fight so you could say he was inexperienced still..so can't really knock him for that loss.
how was pac fit for the singsurat if he couldn't even make weight and was even starving himself to try and make weight? no surprise he got ko'ed fight by a body shot too...Torrecampo is legit, but it was pac's 12th pro fight so you could say he was inexperienced still.
Do you feel the same about his wins against Cotto , ODLH , and Margo ?
Torrecampo and Singsurat dropped him like a sack of potatoes. The malnourishment excuse is a fabrication, he was as fit for the division as any other fighters in it.
Haven't seen the Sanchez fight or I can't remember watching it.
Morales-Pac I was a great fight and a legitimate loss.
Pac-JMM I is a legitimate draw as the fight really could have gone either way. The scoring error excuse is pretty laughable when you consider it hinges on judges not being corrupt in the first place.
Bradley-Pac is the only loss that I would say is not legitimate. It is near impossible to score it for Bradley even giving him every benefit of the doubt.
how was pac fit for the singsurat fight if he couldn't even make weight and was even starving himself to try and make weight? no surprise he got ko'ed by a body shot in that fight and no surprise that he jumped up to super bantam after that fight...Torrecampo is legit, but it was pac's 12th pro fight so you could say he was inexperienced still..so can't really knock him for that loss.
Marquez 1 D legit
Morales 1 L legit (cut was a factor)
Marquez 2 W Not legit
Marquez 3 W Not legit even more
Bradley L Not legit the most!
Thasaboutit!