jeez now floyd stans have resorted to calling people racists on here after being exposed....
These are floydiots, thats par for the course every time they get made to look like a twat by their idol. Bunch of Zelenoff's.:nonono:
lol..
listen, criticizing a "catchweight" with someone coming up isn't what its about. Its making someone come down that's the issue.. Jmm wanted the fight with Floyd. What Floyd should be criticized for in that case is not the catchweight itself (that was more fair to JMM) but blowing it off. Jmm was already fat he wasn't gonna be 147, and Floyd wasn't gonna make 140, and technically anything over 140 is a welterweight fight.
The only catchweight, purely, that Floyd can be criticized for is the upcoming Canelo one, and yes he is a hypocrite for making Canelo cut weight after saying that Cotto was an undefeated fighter and blah blah.
but saying the Canelo catchweight hasn't happened YET so it doesn't count is laughable too. It counts. The JMM one wasn't Floyd making a larger fighter come down, that to me is when catchweights are bs. What was bs about that situation wasn't the catchweight itself, which benefitted JMM more than Floyd, but the fact that Floyd didn't honor it.
Williams was 1-1 with Quintana, Margarito nearly got beat by Clottey. Come on now, it's one thing to say they would have made Floyd work but to outright favor them is unsound.
Quintan who's a southpaw. The only type of fighter the Punisher had problems with.
That Joshua Clottey was a terrific fighter. Need to act like he was always the version Pacman outpointed.
But no, I don't think I'd favor any welterweight right now over Floyd. (Prime Margarito and the Punisher are long gone. I'd have favored both over him). Welterweight is at one of it's weakest points in history.
Williams was 1-1 with Quintana, Margarito nearly got beat by Clottey. Come on now, it's one thing to say they would have made Floyd work but to outright favor them is unsound.
Can anybody his size beat him , ODH and Cotto are not full sized JMWs they came from where Floyd did , in all reality Floyd doesnt belong at 154 at this stage of his career , why does he need to give massive handicaps away just because he is the pound for pound best fighter in the world , read it again " Pound for Pound " ? you only arguing the paper work on face value .
Why is Ward not blasted for not going up to fight Dawson ?
Why is not Sergio GG and Chavez blasted for not going up to fight Ward ?
Why was Jones not blasted for not fighting Holyfield or Lewis ?
It goes on an on and on throughout history , hold others to the standards you hold Floyd to and you can see clearly how unfair it is , all in the name of hate or the tall poppy syndrome .
Ward didn't call Dawson out, Dawson called him and said he'd return to 168 to do it.
Martinez, GGG and Chavez have yet to compete at 168. (Floyd is a 2 time jr middleweight champion).
Jones fought 1 time at heavyweight and never returned. (This is Floyd's 3rd fight at 154/ (152).
But no, I don't think I'd favor any welterweight right now over Floyd. (Prime Margarito and the Punisher are long gone. I'd have favored both over him). Welterweight is at one of it's weakest points in history.
I said if you don't wanna count them. I counted them its 3-1 manny.
Floud hasn't fought canelo. If canelo comes in at 154 like you suggest he do-well thern its not a cw fight is it?
Anyway you cut it manny has more cw's than floyd. So give floyd all the shiiiiizt you want regarding his hypocricy.
Just keep in mind when manny takes his first test for ped's for rios. Although it won't matter because any testing that isn't year around is fake and the fighter can cheat.at least that's what you said then.
Floyd already called for the CW ... if you want to wait for September to call Floyd the NEW CW KING,..... OK .... but I know you will not.
Yes, Floyd is a hypocrite.
Any way you look at it, Manny coming down to 143 to make weight for Marquez is not the same as what Floyd did to Marquez. Yes, they are both CWs but so is Canelo doing a CW at 152 and so was Cotto at 145 and so on ....
Manny doing PEDs testing is wrong now? Why? When Floyd called Manny out, Manny agreed to do more than the commissions test initially and later agreed to Floyd's terms ...... Yo guys keep on forgetting this fact!
Yes, Manny or anyone else doing just a few weeks of testing, especially after a year off means very little. Go ask Lance Armstrong if it's difficult to beat! Go ask Heredia, who admitted to even masking his PEDs when they went thru OST and beat that too!!!
It is about boxing. And the fact that Floyd who's supposed to be the best won't fight Canelo Alvarez at 154 even though he's a 2 time champion there. I don't see how that guy can be the pfp king to some.
Can anybody his size beat him , ODH and Cotto are not full sized JMWs they came from where Floyd did , in all reality Floyd doesnt belong at 154 at this stage of his career , why does he need to give massive handicaps away just because he is the pound for pound best fighter in the world , read it again " Pound for Pound " ? you only arguing the paper work on face value .
Why is Ward not blasted for not going up to fight Dawson ?
Why is not Sergio GG and Chavez blasted for not going up to fight Ward ?
Why was Jones not blasted for not fighting Holyfield or Lewis ?
It goes on an on and on throughout history , hold others to the standards you hold Floyd to and you can see clearly how unfair it is , all in the name of hate or the tall poppy syndrome .
Its about the boxing who cares if he is hypocrite , everybody is if you want to hold them to the letter , the CW with Canelo as far as " boxing " is concerned is legit considering all the circumstances , its not a popularity contest and people try and step over the contest just to hate on Floyd , its a great fight where everybody was saying he would duck but now its on they try to downplay the fight because Floyd is a hypocrite , who gives a flying fck !
Floyd would do him himself more of a service if he played no speaka da english , his mouth will always tie him in knots , but his integrity as a boxer is for real or at least no dirtier than other greats in history .
It is about boxing. And the fact that Floyd who's supposed to be the best won't fight Canelo Alvarez at 154 even though he's a 2 time champion there. I don't see how that guy can be the pfp king to some.
That is probably the closest comparo, I'll give you that. However Oscar wasn't a 2 time middleweight champ. He wasn't regarded as the number 1 pfp, he wasn't called the "decades best" and he didn't criticize someone for catchweights then turn around and do the same $h!t.
Its about the boxing who cares if he is hypocrite , everybody is if you want to hold them to the letter , the CW with Canelo as far as " boxing " is concerned is legit considering all the circumstances , its not a popularity contest and people try and step over the contest just to hate on Floyd , its a great fight where everybody was saying he would duck but now its on they try to downplay the fight because Floyd is a hypocrite , who gives a flying fck !
Floyd would do him himself more of a service if he played no speaka da english , his mouth will always tie him in knots , but his integrity as a boxer is for real or at least no dirtier than other greats in history .
Both sides are at fault here.
Pac should've never fought Marg at 150, especially since "him and Floyd are the same size", as many put it.
Pac should've never fought Cotto at 145 when he fought several guys at 147 (DLH and Clottey).
Floyd shouldn't be fighting Canelo at 152 when he fought several guys at 154.
This is simple stuff, but since so many guys pull for Pac, they say it's ok. Since soo many people pull for Floyd, they say it's ok.
Both sides are obviously biased.
a person can't be biased when they had no problems with CWS in the first place. biases come into play when people flip flop.
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It only means Tyson grew quicker , or was at the weight younger .
Your a fanboy arguing baseless BS and ignoring the facts right in you face , your just rolling the dice from post to post , you dont debate whats relevant you jump over that to go one with fanboism , you argue like a jilted schoolgirl telling tales ,
Manny was 145-147 fight night 10 yrs ago while campaigning at 130 , you got no argument kid !
Fanboys don't come any bigger than you and your fellow Floyd stans on this site. Your boy exposed himself as being equally opportunistic as Manny. You can dckride all you want and try to paint a turd gold, but it's still going to smell like *****.
World titles at a weight are very real. I bet you Tyson could have never won a world title at 122, despite being 122 at some point. He'd probably take damage inordinate to what his 11 yr old body could take, and never be the same.
You're very confused about weight. Moving up is hard and risky, as is dropping too much weight to seek an advantage against the smaller guys. How risky is moving up: p4p #1 is trading eternal ridicule for 2 measly lbs, 1 division above his current best weight. Floyd knows, ask him on twitter!
It only means Tyson grew quicker , or was at the weight younger .
Your a fanboy arguing baseless BS and ignoring the facts right in you face , your just rolling the dice from post to post , you dont debate whats relevant you jump over that to go one with fanboism , you argue like a jilted schoolgirl telling tales ,
Manny was 145-147 fight night 10 yrs ago while campaigning at 130 , you got no argument kid !
He didn't even win his title proper, everybody had him losing to unknown Sturm. Could you ever imagine a month ago that Floyd fans would be eager to compare his SWW title with this garbage one? How things change on a dime.
I can dig it bro. At least I went in on them both for their nonsense. But to go in on one and then turn right around and defend the other?? Wow.
That is probably the closest comparo, I'll give you that. However Oscar wasn't a 2 time middleweight champ. He wasn't regarded as the number 1 pfp, he wasn't called the "decades best" and he didn't criticize someone for catchweights then turn around and do the same $h!t.
He didn't even win his title proper, everybody had him losing to unknown Sturm. Could you ever imagine a month ago that Floyd fans would be eager to compare his SWW title with this garbage one? How things change on a dime.
its not trailblazing unless you are looking for ways to criticize him and the fight beyond floyd being a hypocrite. Otherwise its just the same as ODH v bhop.
That is probably the closest comparo, I'll give you that. However Oscar wasn't a 2 time middleweight champ. He wasn't regarded as the number 1 pfp, he wasn't called the "decades best" and he didn't criticize someone for catchweights then turn around and do the same $h!t.
You make more than enough racist comments to get banned but that wouldn't be one of them.
What a joke! You are one of the most racist posters I've come across on here. You need to wind it in.:nonono:
Its got nothing to do with where you started , because everybody grows from small to big and it happens at different rates some people grow quickly and stop others climb steady for a longer time , Tyson actually weighed 122 at some time , all your trying to do is muddy the water by playing the numbers on FACE value , its not real !
Where you are at any given time is relative to then not many years later , you kids pluck numbers out of your ass with no understanding what they mean at the time .
Floyd is around 3 pound bigger than Manny in the real world regarding a boxing match , during their career when the both were fighting around 130-135 they were pretty much the same size in the ring all the way to now .
World titles at a weight are very real. I bet you Tyson could have never won a world title at 122, despite being 122 at some point. He'd probably take damage inordinate to what his 11 yr old body could take, and never be the same.
You're very confused about weight. Moving up is hard and risky, as is dropping too much weight to seek an advantage against the smaller guys. How risky is moving up: p4p #1 is trading eternal ridicule for 2 measly lbs, 1 division above his current best weight. Floyd knows, ask him on twitter!