whose overall a better boxer, toney or floyd

If were talking raw natural talent then Toney, In any other sentence its Money May.

Depends, Tony was special in his day. Truly outrageous with some of the things he did when he had the work ethic of Jabba the hut.

Floyds clearly the better boxer... Not necessarily the better fighter.

and in what era exactly, would a prime Toney not be able to compete???? I'd like to hear a serious answer toney is from ann arbor. did you know him personally? do agree that toney could box in any generation.

^^^ Floyd for this reason. Floyd fights different every fight. JMM it was the pull counter he was using. Cotto he was using a looping right hand (which hes never used) and uppercuts (which he rarely used). Ortiz it was the shoulder roll when everyone was saying it doesnt work against southpaws, floyd showed it did. With mosley it was the high guard for the rest of the fight (which he never really used before) after getting tagged early. Every fight he comes up with something different that is best suited for his opponent, often during the fight as it progresses. Not that toney isnt impressive both in his prime and with his weight jumping. His frame did allow him to put back on that weight and compete successfully at heavy. But his style is the same every fight. good answer i agree 100% dont get me wrong toney is my boy. he used to put in work at the ball's when i was a trainer there. him and oba carr and baby jones. the win over McCallum was one where he was the under dog and nobody gave him a chance but he won. and his fight with sam peter forced peter to become a better boxer in the re-match. but for me, floyd is a once in a decade fighter. his taylor made game plan for each fight is always on point. ofense/defense is superb great reflexes great foot work. its tough to find a more complete package than floyd. but the best pinoy fighter is not that far off IMO of course im talking about nonito donaire he is the best ever pinoy fighter.

hmmmmm.....Im going with Floyd on this one. all around better boxer.

Floyd's ability to adjust will allow him to compete in any era with any boxer ever. You only get that ability by knowing every facet of boxing in and out. and in what era exactly, would a prime Toney not be able to compete???? I'd like to hear a serious answer

Floyd's ability to adjust will allow him to compete in any era with any boxer ever. You only get that ability by knowing every facet of boxing in and out.

Floyd is way more diverse. Toney is old school and stands in the pocket in every fight. Floyd adapts his game, he can fight in the pocket or he can box on the back foot or he can walk his man down. ^^^ Floyd for this reason. Floyd fights different every fight. JMM it was the pull counter he was using. Cotto he was using a looping right hand (which hes never used) and uppercuts (which he rarely used). Ortiz it was the shoulder roll when everyone was saying it doesnt work against southpaws, floyd showed it did. With mosley it was the high guard for the rest of the fight (which he never really used before) after getting tagged early. Every fight he comes up with something different that is best suited for his opponent, often during the fight as it progresses. Not that toney isnt impressive both in his prime and with his weight jumping. His frame did allow him to put back on that weight and compete successfully at heavy. But his style is the same every fight.

Over the span of a career, May. In prime, Toney.

Floyd is more physically gifted, Toney used his learned skills with his limits.

Floyd is way more diverse. Toney is old school and stands in the pocket in every fight. Floyd adapts his game, he can fight in the pocket or he can box on the back foot or he can walk his man down.

I agree with that & I'm a fan of Toney. In a way a bit like Zab Judah, bags of talent but inconsistent & tended to fall short in virtually every big fight he had barr the Holyfield win & the shoddy ''W'' over Jirov. Suppose you can throw the win over a shot to bits McCallum into that to. I really don't think you are a fan of Toney if you compare him to Judah, not to mention you claim he fell short in virtually every big fight yet you don't mention his best win. It definitely wasn't a shoddy win over Jirov, it was a legitimate win. McCallum wasn't shot to bits in Toney's first win over him, past it but still a good fighter. Toney beat a lot of good fighters.

Floyd by a country mile, Toney was good but the way he gets talked about its clear people remember him as better than he actually was I agree with that & I'm a fan of Toney. In a way a bit like Zab Judah, bags of talent but inconsistent & tended to fall short in virtually every big fight he had barr the Holyfield win & the shoddy ''W'' over Jirov. Suppose you can throw the win over a shot to bits McCallum into that to.

Floyds a better fighter. Thats not a knock on Toney. Hell Foyd is better than a lot of boxers past and present.

wow, people really have forgotten just how damn special james toney was when on his game

I'd say Floyd is better "overall" as in he has a more complete outside game than Toney ever did, but in terms of absolute fighting ability, I would put Toney a little bit higher up than Floyd. Toneys inside game is WAYYYYYYYY better than Floyds though. ehhhh mebbe young floyd.

I'd say Floyd is better "overall" as in he has a more complete outside game than Toney ever did, but in terms of absolute fighting ability, I would put Toney a little bit higher up than Floyd. Toneys inside game is WAYYYYYYYY better than Floyds though. Lol, wtf no it isn't.

I'd say Floyd is better "overall" as in he has a more complete outside game than Toney ever did, but in terms of absolute fighting ability, I would put Toney a little bit higher up than Floyd. Toneys inside game is WAYYYYYYYY better than Floyds though. There is no way that the bolded is true. Floyd is superior to Toney in almost everyway. He's better defensively, quicker, and sharper. He's also been able to beat inside fighters at their own game.

I'd say Floyd is better "overall" as in he has a more complete outside game than Toney ever did, but in terms of absolute fighting ability, I would put Toney a little bit higher up than Floyd. Toneys inside game is WAYYYYYYYY better than Floyds though.