First time on this forum guys seems like a nice place for boxing discussions hopefully i fit in :D Soooo seeing as there's been a lot of upsets this year can Chavez Jr upset us again?
Iv been watching a lot of footage on him recently and he's growing on me I think he can pull it off but im not resting on Martinez im 50/50. Whats everybody's thoughts?
Dunno why some people thought Paul Williams had a good chin. I can't think of one fight where he stood and traded and actually got hit with solid shots. The way he swung his whole body into punches made him easy to KO if a decent punch connected.
Every fight Williams fought he got hit and got hit good. Re-watch them and you will see
Everyone talking about Chavez chin, we all know he has a chin but that doesnt mean he can't get dropped we all thought Paul Williams(Wishing him the best) had a solid chin and we all seen what happen in the 2nd fight, so it's hard for me to think Chavez could win other then father time catching up to Martinez or Martinez doing something stupid like try to brawl with Chavez.
People dont know how close this fight is going to be if it doesnt finish early :boxing:
Pavlik is much better than Jr and Martinez was able to handle that and come out a winner.
Jr gets hit too much and Martinez's stamina is excellent. Odds are on Martinez side to win unless he gets old over night
If he doesn't use all his tools, he will lose. Chavez's size/chin/body attack shouldn't be able to trump Sergio's accuracy/footwork/speed/southpaw stance/stamina. Chavez gotta bring a lot more to the table than what we've already seen. Can he box effectively enough to lure Sergio in? Will he be able to capitalize if he does? Sergio has the skill-set to beat Jr., but will his legs hold up?
Only 17 days left.
How will Jr. handle a southpaw that moves? We'll see in a few weeks, if he can cut him off and throw punches that make Sergio stand up he will have a chance because he looks to be the stronger puncher. Neither of these men have fought high quality fighters on a consistent basis. South American fighters seem to have some curse when they come out of their homelands. Sergio did get beat up by Margerito a few years back and that may be nothing but it can be something since he doesn't engage much and hasn't fought anyone with big power since.
I think its a good match but I don't see Sergio with a veterans edge because he hasn't fought on a high level. Neither has Jr. but he's just starting when you consider his first bouts took the place of a J.O career and Amatuer Open class years. ..................should be a good one, evenly matched!! Ray has fought on a high level he destroyed Pavlik and he fought the most avoided boxer twice in Paul Williams
who beat Margarito.
How will Jr. handle a southpaw that moves? We'll see in a few weeks, if he can cut him off and throw punches that make Sergio stand up he will have a chance because he looks to be the stronger puncher. Neither of these men have fought high quality fighters on a consistent basis. South American fighters seem to have some curse when they come out of their homelands. Sergio did get beat up by Margerito a few years back and that may be nothing but it can be something since he doesn't engage much and hasn't fought anyone with big power since.
I think its a good match but I don't see Sergio with a veterans edge because he hasn't fought on a high level. Neither has Jr. but he's just starting when you consider his first bouts took the place of a J.O career and Amatuer Open class years. ..................should be a good one, evenly matched!! Ray
Well Martinez is no question the better fighter. But is he going to gas? And chavez Jr is enormous. This fight wouldnt be in question if chavez was 15-20 pounds lighter and without Top Rank. :|... Chavez has to make it to the 12th. The judges have never been kind to Martinez as it is. Chavez will go to the body..but so will Serg. Difference is Martinez will do it more safely when he shoots the left to the body. When chavez jr comes in for it hes going to eat a left. How many he can eat is the question.
I suppose Martinez isnt as fit anymore and that extra weight on chavez pushing him around making him run I see Martinez getting tired after the 7th round.
Well Martinez is no question the better fighter. But is he going to gas? And chavez Jr is enormous. This fight wouldnt be in question if chavez was 15-20 pounds lighter and without Top Rank. :|... Chavez has to make it to the 12th. The judges have never been kind to Martinez as it is. Chavez will go to the body..but so will Serg. Difference is Martinez will do it more safely when he shoots the left to the body. When chavez jr comes in for it hes going to eat a left. How many he can eat is the question.
I do believe that Top Rank is just cashing out with Jr. The rumor is that Jr is signing with TMT so if that's true then Top Rank doesn't care about the result of the fight anymore. They're in a win - win situation.
You must be new to boxing all around.
This is a Top Rank fight
Jr shouldn't have been caught wearing that TMT hat....Arum went to Harvard, he knows the deal, Chavez is toast.