Abraham defeats Stieglitz for the WBO title! Post Fight Discussion here.

I didn't pick Stieglitz to win the fight, whoever did was probably drunk or a noob. Ok my bad. I also expected AA to win by KO but it is what it is. It was his best performance since Taylor.

Hahahah before the fight, all you haters were like "Stieglitz lost by KO but now he's a way better fighter, he's improved, he's gonna win a comfortable UD AA ain't **** etc" but now that he won by UD "that **** wasn't a big accomplishment, he wasn't even able to KO him". Ok guys, Ok. I'll let you in your hate. I didn't pick Stieglitz to win the fight, whoever did was probably drunk or a noob.

Great post. A competitive 8-4 decision win against a guy who was knocked out by Andrade isn't exactly a great accomplishment. The only rematch that makes sense is a Dirrell rematch to settle the score. Hahahah before the fight, all you haters were like "Stieglitz lost by KO but now he's a way better fighter, he's improved, he's gonna win a comfortable UD AA ain't **** etc" but now that he won by UD "that **** wasn't a big accomplishment, he wasn't even able to KO him". Ok guys, Ok. I'll let you in your hate.

The fact this fight was as close as it was demonstrates what has already been bestowed upon us already, and that's the fact that Abraham was never an elite fighter. Stieglitz is a solid fighter but not legitimate world class. Ward, Froch, Dirrell and probably even Bute would of handled Stieglitz with relative ease. Abraham is a good solid fighter but he has never been elite, which was shown to us against Dirrell, Froch and Ward. His whole "reign" at MW was against B and C level fighters, and people fell in love with his power. Somehow he became a favorite to win the Super Six, and we saw very quickly that wasn't the case. This WBO title really doesn't mean anything. Because he was clearly and thoroughly dominated by the legitimate champions in the division already, and I think it's safe to say rematches would be no different. Great post. A competitive 8-4 decision win against a guy who was knocked out by Andrade isn't exactly a great accomplishment. The only rematch that makes sense is a Dirrell rematch to settle the score.

The fact this fight was as close as it was demonstrates what has already been bestowed upon us already, and that's the fact that Abraham was never an elite fighter. Stieglitz is a solid fighter but not legitimate world class. Ward, Froch, Dirrell and probably even Bute would of handled Stieglitz with relative ease. Abraham is a good solid fighter but he has never been elite, which was shown to us against Dirrell, Froch and Ward. His whole "reign" at MW was against B and C level fighters, and people fell in love with his power. Somehow he became a favorite to win the Super Six, and we saw very quickly that wasn't the case. This WBO title really doesn't mean anything. Because he was clearly and thoroughly dominated by the legitimate champions in the division already, and I think it's safe to say rematches would be no different. Depends on how one defines elite. Abraham found a ceiling but it's still a pretty high ceiling. From 2006-09, he was probably the best at 160 in the world (I still say he takes Taylor and Pavlik). Not a great era there, but he's only lost to some VERY good fighters in a VERY good era at 168.

The fact this fight was as close as it was demonstrates what has already been bestowed upon us already, and that's the fact that Abraham was never an elite fighter. Stieglitz is a solid fighter but not legitimate world class. Ward, Froch, Dirrell and probably even Bute would of handled Stieglitz with relative ease. Abraham is a good solid fighter but he has never been elite, which was shown to us against Dirrell, Froch and Ward. His whole "reign" at MW was against B and C level fighters, and people fell in love with his power. Somehow he became a favorite to win the Super Six, and we saw very quickly that wasn't the case. This WBO title really doesn't mean anything. Because he was clearly and thoroughly dominated by the legitimate champions in the division already, and I think it's safe to say rematches would be no different.

So Sauerland said that he would make an offer for Felix Sturm! Sturm-AA. Great fight. Should have happened 3 years ago though. There goes any chance Geale had of getting a dec.

Sturm said he wants the Stieglitz-Abraham winner didn't he? Honestly I think it's a very winnable fight for Sturm, but I would like Abraham to knock him out. It will be difficult. They fight on different networks.

Sturm said he wants the Stieglitz-Abraham winner didn't he? Honestly I think it's a very winnable fight for Sturm, but I would like Abraham to knock him out.

So Sauerland said that he would make an offer for Felix Sturm! Sturm-AA. Great fight. Should have happened 3 years ago though.

For some reason I want to learn German. Actually, there's no reason at all, I just want to know a 3rd language and heard German is easy if you already know English. Yeah. Both are germanic languages. As is dutch, swedish, danish, norwegian.

Technically yes. But everyone knows who the real champ at 168 pounds is. :haha: You trying to start some sh1t. Tell Abraham to go unify with Froch.

Abraham's trainer said something about the public/fans, what he say? He said thanks! And also that it was the tactic that won AA the fight. He knows how to blow his own horn old Wegner. When AA lost he publicly called Abraham a coward. So when AA loses it's the boxers fault and when he wins it is because his trainer made a great strategy. Lol.

I thought the fight was very close and could easily have gone either way. I'd lean on Abraham if anything.

So now AA is a 2 division champion. Well done. Technically yes. But everyone knows who the real champ at 168 pounds is.

Pretty much spot on Kev. And an emotional thanks to his mother. For some reason I want to learn German. Actually, there's no reason at all, I just want to know a 3rd language and heard German is easy if you already know English.

Trainer Dzemski acknowledges that AA wo n the fight. Sporting spirit right there.

Pretty much spot on Kev. And an emotional thanks to his mother. Yeah the last word he said sounded like mother but in a sad tone, what happened to his mother?

Stieglitz has no head movement, how the hell couldn't he adjust to the right hand.

So now AA is a 2 division champion. Well done. First German ever to do so. And yes I know he's Armenian :D