Boxing vs Karate & Taewkwondo

Maybe you can expand Well I don't think martial arts are more complex than boxing. This is a very complex sport, just look at the defense and counterpunching of Mayweather, Toney and Whitaker, look at the footwork and combinations of Ali and Leonard. Here listen to a well known mixed martial artist talk about boxing : Boxing is designed for the ring and not for real life. Boxing in the streets is as effective as taibo.

dont like it? **** off to the Karate forums then Sorry I thought the topic was Boxing vs Karate & Taewkwondo, not Boxing is the best no differing opinions please. Earl you don't like it when people differ from yours. If I said the truth I am sorry you were hurt and had to result to that fabulous retort.

Lol I do karate and after 6-8 months training you will be graded to a yellow belt. So beating someone with 6 months training must feel good to some people and this video must be the truth. I don't have my students fighting till over a years experience doing basic training. Also they kicks those people were doing had no power in them. The punches were crappy too. But yeah biased video on boxing website. I shouldn't be surprised.

Well, with no rules the majority of trained boxers (thai, kick, etc etc) can beat an equally skilled in their craft wrestlers...with things like punches to the back of the head.... Anyway, about the military trained guys beating a boxer....uh...no... I've been in the military...and...honestly..its not all that compared to a trained fighter in most disciplines. Obviously, its better than nothing, and it helps... But I've seen to many marines knocked out and I know better. <__<... Years of practical fighting in muay thai, boxing, mma, kickboxing, even wrestling is just too much compared to a few months of the training you receive in the military.

Take a boxer who can move and not get hugged by a wrestler and you have the best fighter on the planet. Boxing is the greatest. Prime Toney would've won by head choke if he wanted to. Exactly. If you put an active guy with good hand speed/power and movement he'll win the fight. Manny Pacquiao, Mike Tyson or Cotto, guys that know how to punch and would know not to get hit with wild or looping shots would absolutely beat an MMA fighter or street fighter or what ever. I say if you teach a boxing a few defensive moves against kicks and submissions, he'll do just fine knocking these guys out with punches. He'll do fine without those defensive moves, but it wouldnt hurt to know them.

Taekwondo has become a joke. Just look at what it has become today. Besides the fight point system, it has become a choreograph competition. I like martial arts since i was a kid but didn't take it seriously cuz i was shy. I have take a few days of muay thai training while on vacation in Phuket, Thailand. I had a hard time with kicking. Not due to the style itself but cuz of my age. I can't kick as high as i use to back then. And my right leg is weak when it comes to kicking. The boxing part was no problem. Took 3 months of Brazilian jujitsu. Stop due to high fees. I can afford it but i joined this certain school because of the name/instructor. Unfortunately, its always the assistant(blue belt) that always instruct us. When i left, i told him he was my teacher/sensei. I also took a couple of months of grappling(combo of BJJ, Japanese jujitsu, judo, wrestling, and Sambo). I say BJJ/grappling is the hard. Its like a chess game. I always get tapped by smaller guys. Judo, just tried it 1 day, didn't do much but i liked it. Didn't come back due to a new job. I took karate as kid, don't know which style though. I didn't have no problem with it. I wish i continued it growing up.

Try Filipino Martial Arts of Kali, Escrima and Arnis....what we know as Western Boxing was really influenced by Filipino Boxing in the early 1900s. The pre-1900s boxing was like those old British Boxing type. Please see Dan Inosanto, the legendary teacher and practitioner of Jeet Kune Do (Bruce Lee's only student who was certified in his Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do, The Tao of Jeet Kune Do and then some). He is also a "learned" martial artist to have have trained with at least 30 Filipino's Bladed arts, boxing, wrestling....and with Muay Thai (under Master Chai Sirusite), have his own MaPhilIndo Silat (revival of the Majapahit Empire arts of Malaysian, FIlipino and Indonesian indigenious arts).. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=Lo-0RTe2zvw Notice the fluidity of the Filipino Boxing Arts that influenced the Western Boxing.... I disagree with that. Suntukan/Panantukan never influence Western Boxing. What has become boxing today has evolve itself since it begun. There is no proof that FMA influence boxing.

Taekwondo is the worst martial art ever created. Karate is useless unless you mix it with a few other martial arts. Karate has had a huge influence in european kickboxing....

Take a boxer who can move and not get hugged by a wrestler and you have the best fighter on the planet. Boxing is the greatest. Prime Toney would've won by head choke if he wanted to.

I would say boxing can hold up to almost any fighting style if you are good at it. Good defense, head movement, and footwork would cause a lot of problems for any opponent. The only type of style that could give an excellent boxer issues is probably wrestling. Once your opponent has you on the ground there is not much you can do as a boxer. Just ask James Toney. The idea would be to use footwork to maintain distance and strike at the opportune time. Outside of shooting for the take down the wrestler has a wide miss range. After all the wrestler is firing his whole body. If you can dodge a punch you can dodge that. Toney was practically said up. Dana and co knew his fighting style as a stationary boxer who plants his legs. If you don't move your legs you don't have a hope.

Boxing is designed for the ring and not for real life. Boxing in the streets is as effective as taibo. Any military trained martial arts combatant would murder a pro boxer on the street or jungle. What a stupid post. You're speaking as though the average scrub who gets into a fight on the streets are military trained martial artists when you couldn't be further from the truth. Most street fights consist of a bunch of bums trying to tackle their opponent to the ground whilst throwing looping right hands. Regarding people who are trained combatants you're incorrect however you are overlooking the fact that they're taught mixture of martial arts. If they were to rely on one alone they'd be just as limited, alternatively if a boxer was to focus on other martial arts he'd have just as many advantages.

I would say boxing can hold up to almost any fighting style if you are good at it. Good defense, head movement, and footwork would cause a lot of problems for any opponent. The only type of style that could give an excellent boxer issues is probably wrestling. Once your opponent has you on the ground there is not much you can do as a boxer. Just ask James Toney.

Olympic Taekwondo is so bad. It doesn't even come close to real fighting. It's the equivalent to competitive footsie. This is coming from a guy who studied TKD for 3 years after learning other Martials Arts. absolutely agree.

Taekwondo is the worst martial art ever created. Karate is useless unless you mix it with a few other martial arts. You shouldn't speak in generalities about Martial arts unless you have comprehensive knowledge of those arts in all their forms . From your comment I feel safe concluding that you don't.

Boxing is designed for the ring and not for real life. Boxing in the streets is as effective as taibo. Any military trained martial arts combatant would murder a pro boxer on the street or jungle. Boxing is derived from Street fighting. I always hear boxing isn't effective in a Street fight yet how many times do you ever hear of a boxing coming off second best? As a matter of fact a guy who boxed out of my gym is now inside for manslaughter after killing a BJJ blackbelt with a single punch inside a nightclub. Being able to stay calm, gauge distance are very important in a Street fight. 9/10 Street fights are started with a punch being thrown. Don't give a fcuk what form of combat you do, you try trade hands with a boxer inside or outside the ring, you will 99% of the time come off second best. Your initial instinct is to throw a punch. How often will you ever see someone shoot or attempt a headkick off the bat in a Street fight?

what about jiu jitsu vs boxing?

the street referee isn't there to break off boxing clinches. On the street the passive hugger gets dropped on their head. Watch Dawson Hopkins I and Cotto dumping Clottey. Those throws nearly killed them. Multiply that by 100

Boxing is designed for the ring and not for real life. Boxing in the streets is as effective as taibo. Any military trained martial arts combatant would murder a pro boxer on the street or jungle.

boxing is one-dimensional, thus it is harder to excel at. everyone is working on the exact same things you are. I think boxing is top 3 as far as One-dimensional(non-mixed) arts go.

thats fcking pathetic man :nonono: you really gonna make things up? i never said i boxed for 2 years and had 5 fights. i boxed for almost 6 years now, even back when i had only been boxing 2 years i didnt have 5 fights yet so theres no chance i ever said that. you just made it up.. pathetic.. dont fake quote me again bro, its a dick move. :nono: I didn't misquote you on purpose, I got you mixed up with johncods because you have the same avatar. My bad.