That is what the whole moving to Manny fight to Dec 1st is all about. The problem is this is going to anger Cotto to the point he will take on the cahllenge of a H2H fight of the 2nd and 3rd biggest draws in boxing. At the end Mannys numbers will take a bigger hit.
Still even more hilarious is that fact that Pac "didn't even bother to make weight", not once, but twice, got KTFO both times, yet has the nerve to want to impose weight penalties on others, who have never weighed in overweight in their life.
That hurt a lot peoples feelings. LLS so true but it will be ignored cause its 100% true
what is even more hilarious was that floyd fought jmm in a catchweight and floyd didn't even bother to make weight...
Still even more hilarious is that fact that Pac "didn't even bother to make weight", not once, but twice, got KTFO both times, yet has the nerve to want to impose weight penalties on others, who have never weighed in overweight in their life.
Dumb f**ks on here would have you believe Manny is Roy Jones past his prime, seriously.
Pac's last prime year was 2009, he's basically the same fighter now that he was in 2010, the only difference was his last two opponents.
Floyd's last prime year was 2007. He's basically the same fight now that he was in 2009-2010.
They are still two of the top fighters in the world, with the winner being the best of their era.
Bottom line.....Manny f**ked up by refusing testing for 2 years, which killed the fight. Floyd f**ked up by saying no 50-50 at the last minute. At the same time, how can someone expect Floyd to give a guy 50-50 on the revenue, when the guys real numbers haven't been released since the Clottey and Margarito fights, and even with Arum's uncomfirmed number's, do not match the revenue numbers that he himself posts.
Pac is passed prime and he's Bradley's leftovers! Cotto will plum him to submision. Miguel will attack the body and brutally KO pac in 10.
For the Pac-tards haters! :bottle::bottle::bottle:
Conveinent argument. This way you get to diss floyd and make manny look great. a win win. of course the dynamics of the fight haven't changed.
manny at the height of his power has the same punchers chance he has now. with floyd being less mobile, that actually helps manny.
of course if manny had just agreed to osdt in dec 09 the fight would've happened. But in your mind, floyd shouldn't have asked that both fighters take the test. which of course, wouldn't have leveled the playing field.
Man, look at all the fights that are happening right now. NObody asks for stringent testing. iT's only Floyd. Haha... It's embarrassing. He's demanding stringent testing that's never been done in the sports history before to a one dimensional Paqciao. Yuk!
Ironically, those who demand tests are the ones getting caught! Haha...
ANd when Manny agreed, Floyd came up with another roadblock. Man, you just have to admit it's Floyd's fault that the fight didn't happen at the time tht world wanted it. And now Paqcioa is done. D O N E. dOne.
Ortiz is 1-3-1 vs top 10 type comp, with his sole win coming at a catchweight:
http://******.craveonline.com/blog/126305-breaking-news-berto-ortiz-reach-agreement
Berto, the WBC welterweight titleholder, and Ortiz have agreed to a catch weight of 145 pounds plus one, or in effect 146. That’s one pound below the welterweight limit.
Why r u doing this to fools? Ur like 2 and 0 with 2 KO's today before lunchtime. I'm gonna request WADA testing for u, ur on the power pellets
I see why Floyd and his fans want the fight now. The playing field is finally leveled! Way to go Floyd! You're da man! You should be rewarded with hundreds of millions of dollars for fighting an easy fight!
Halleluiah!
Conveinent argument. This way you get to diss floyd and make manny look great. a win win. of course the dynamics of the fight haven't changed.
manny at the height of his power has the same punchers chance he has now. with floyd being less mobile, that actually helps manny.
of course if manny had just agreed to osdt in dec 09 the fight would've happened. But in your mind, floyd shouldn't have asked that both fighters take the test. which of course, wouldn't have leveled the playing field.
There's a difference. I don't claim to be a real boxing fan. YOu on the other hand have nerves to say so.
Don't you wanna see Floyd vs Martines instead?
Paqciao is done. D O N E. Done.
I can respect the bold. I would definitely rather see PBF vs Martinez over PBF vs Manny.
The playing was never level cause IMO PBF was always better than Manny. Only advantage Manny ever had was punching power other than that nothing was in his favor. So I don't get what you saying with the playing field is now level cause you feel Manny is washed up.
What's Cotto a champ of, your heart?
You should have reminded Cotto of your powerful point when he tried to pull this:
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/6921196/miguel-cotto-wrangles-catchweight-antonio-margarito
LMAO, TKO 1st rd
i want to see both floyd/manny and floyd/sergio. i just think its a shame manny's fans attribute his problems in the ring to things out of it. These are the same problems he's always had. Its just the clottey/marg/cotto style/level of fighter can't expose it like a jmm/tim style/level of fighter can.
I see why Floyd and his fans want the fight now. The playing field is finally leveled! Way to go Floyd! You're da man! You should be rewarded with hundreds of millions of dollars for fighting an easy fight!
Halleluiah!
There's a difference. I don't claim to be a real boxing fan. YOu on the other hand have nerves to say so.
Don't you wanna see Floyd vs Martines instead?
Paqciao is done. D O N E. Done.
i want to see both floyd/manny and floyd/sergio. i just think its a shame manny's fans attribute his problems in the ring to things out of it. These are the same problems he's always had. Its just the clottey/marg/cotto style/level of fighter can't expose it like a jmm/tim style/level of fighter can.
LLS at the bold oh boy!!!!its a shame his fans can't admit manny just isn't good at cutting off the ring or dealing with movement.
They can't have an honest debate. Like somehow admiting it diminishes manny.
There's a difference. I don't claim to be a real boxing fan. YOu on the other hand have nerves to say so.
Don't you wanna see Floyd vs Martines instead?
Paqciao is done. D O N E. Done.
LLS at the bold oh boy!!!!
its a shame his fans can't admit manny just isn't good at cutting off the ring or dealing with movement.
They can't have an honest debate. Like somehow admiting it diminishes manny.
You can't fight someone who doesn't want to fight you. Aks Floyd to grow balls first and tell him to stop being a pu$$$$yyyy.
Anyway Paqciao is done. You don't wanna see your idol fighting a washed up fighter, do you? Real boxing fans hate boxers who fight washed up fighters.
I wanna see Floyd fight Martinez before he retires.
LLS at the bold oh boy!!!!
The only fight I want to see Pacquiao in at 147 is with Floyd.
You can't fight someone who doesn't want to fight you. Aks Floyd to grow balls first and tell him to stop being a pu$$$$yyyy.
Anyway Paqciao is done. You don't wanna see your idol fighting a washed up fighter, do you? Real boxing fans hate boxers who fight washed up fighters.
I wanna see Floyd fight Martinez before he retires.
If Cotto fights Canelo, i'd buy his PPV. Any one else, i'd have to just not buy any PPV at all. I didn't buy Pacquiao-Bradley, which was the first time I skipped a Pacquiao PPV since the Diaz one, and it felt good. I will stop buying Pac's PPV's until he fights Floyd.
Floyd's opponents are good in my book, i'll keep buying his PPV's.
If Pacquiao mans up and stops acting all "small" with his catchweights, and fights Canelo, or Cotto at 154, i'd definitely buy the PPV. If it's a CW, or a fight against Marquez or Bradley, I don't want to see it. Marquez already outclassed Pacquiao, and the Bradley fight was a draw and a fight I don't want to see again. The only fight I want to see Pacquiao in at 147 is with Floyd.
it means.....he likes miguels ability to turn a ring into a wild west shootout to win but getting tagged and almost going out is not the way he'd like to see the man win
am i right pbf?
cotto has two things....hes either got trinidad or vargas syndrom
vargas while in trouble will just keep banging back and not tie up or anything which is what has lead to his downword spiral
trinidad although is able to get rocked and knocked down getting back up to go for the kill is what made him a legend
cotto is gonna have to either gain more killer instinct if he wants to be a trinidad
or learn to tie up if he dosnt have the firepower to be a great comeback fighter
The son of Trinidad & Vargas
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