Trust me... In 10 years time, Floyd will be regarded as the Greatest ever...

yeah because after he saw how pac handled tim(with tim fighting on two broke legs) he got REALLY scared and said "if he can do that to tim who has fearsome power and speed, what would he do to me?" pac is so shook he wont even tell arum to make the floyd fight. pacs last fight will be v floyd. and floyd will ko pac inside of 9rounds. The two broken legs is what Floyd fear. Floyd: What if I end up cripple for the rest of my life, I know all my *****S ain't going to pay for my bills, especially MrJoeBlive.

The testing won't occur during the fight so its not different rules. The rules didn't change. Stop it man. Even if Floyd was basically being a dick when he asked For osdt. Manny made himself look guilty by his excuses. He now wants the same deal 3 yrs later. That suggests hthe only thing different now is he may be off the stuff.Its really not more complicated than that. good post Big Dunn. the acute lack of power by pac as of late indicates that he is indeed not the same fighter. pac fans try to make weak excuses like, his love for god is slowing him down. if that were the case he would stop fighting. or he is so busy as a congress man. then again he should stop fighting. when a fighter has true god given power its the last thing to go. pac has looked like sh*t in his last couple of fights. the bradley fight was suppose to make pac relevant again. but it oly caused more trouble for him. this created notion that pac is a world class wrecking machine is being exposed big time. and pac fans caint stand that.

Martinez would drop his ass.....that's why he said 150...he won't even fight Pac man......please yeah because after he saw how pac handled tim(with tim fighting on two broke legs) he got REALLY scared and said "if he can do that to tim who has fearsome power and speed, what would he do to me?" pac is so shook he wont even tell arum to make the floyd fight. pacs last fight will be v floyd. and floyd will ko pac inside of 9rounds.

Greatest ever ducker, or the pioneer of ducks or Godfather of duckers. People may have ducked before Floyd came along, but Floyd mastered it. no one does it like pac. almost everyone he fought was on the downward slide. he only beat cotto because he was wt drained. he refused to face cotto at 154 he was very scared. he now wants to fight at 147 which means he could have fought the 1st fight at 147. even when they were negotiating with floyd roach wanted to try to force him to fight at 142 to "make him work before he get in the ring". i have NEVER seen a fighter and his team work so hard to get an advantage before they fight. and thats the not so funny part. he dont do his talk in the ring, he beats them out of the ring first. he has never fought anyone( except JMM) that would give him true trouble. he shamelessly ducked shane. flatout refused to fight shane until he looked like crap. then he still looked like he took a payoff. now pac has no power which is suspect because the power is the last thing to go. when it comes to ducking pac= G.O.A.T.

No he wont, if he doesnt fight pac and martinez imo... there always be a cloud over him... unlike guys like sugar ray leonard or robinson... i'd keep him at top 10 of all time though.. probably top 5 if he proves more from now...

Just because Manny permabanned Cotto from welterweight doesn't mean he has to join him at 154. Floyd got the message and went up too, without taking the beating he had coming. He's smart. Watch Floyd challenge Manny at 154 also. LMAO. Pacquiao has been knocked out twice, put down multiple times...almost out by a jab, beaten up, out boxed, and had wars with Marquez, who Floyd made look like a baby...and you post this fan boy garbage, lmao? Soon as Pacquiao got to 122 he was Superman until the Morales fight in which he underwent testing and lost, and you post this? Pacquiao will soon be retired, and you'll stop being a boxing fan.

No one is like him, no one compares... He will slap Manny around silly and Knock out Martinez... Possibly stops Canelo aswell.... The greatest ever what, fighter of all times, at 130, in the last 30 years etc... Greatest what?

Just because Manny permabanned Cotto from welterweight doesn't mean he has to join him at 154. Floyd got the message and went up too, without taking the beating he had coming. He's smart. Watch Floyd challenge Manny at 154 also. LMAO. You are a terrible poster but that was pretty funny

yes id agree with the opening sentence. however refusing to fight because you cant get the extra testing is worse than the lot considering the fact that floyd didnt have a problem fighting the 40 odd guys before that fight with the same rules. i just found it awfully funny at the time that mayweather kicked up a big fuss any time this asian midgets name was mentioned about a fight with floyd. Nonsense. The stricter testing was a legit request regardless of whether Mayweather had made it previously or not. He was willing to submit to the same testing and since all of his opponents have complied with the stricter testing. It's rather weak to attempt to give Pacquiao a pass for ducking the stricter testing. as far as mayweather being the goat, you have to prove it. to be the best, you have to beat the best. and like i said before, floyd has fought most of the best guys of this era. but he hasnt fought pacquiao. and even if he does, its past its sell by date. the cotto fight was 4 or 5 years late aswell. put mayweather in the ring with any welterweight from any era and he stands a good chance is the best way to say it i guess.I agree here for the most part. The whole "to be the best you got to beat the best" ra ra sounds good, but don't forget that this is a business. Don't lose sight of the fact that this is prize-fighting. Politics have always played a part in which fights do and don't get made. Fans seem to selectively acknowledge this fact. You can nitpick at Mayweather's resume but his skills speak for themselves. He's one of the 1-2 best fighters I've seen.

The testing won't occur during the fight so its not different rules. The rules didn't change. Stop it man. Even if Floyd was basically being a dick when he asked For osdt. Manny made himself look guilty by his excuses. He now wants the same deal 3 yrs later. That suggests hthe only thing different now is he may be off the stuff. Its really not more complicated than that. it is different rules, cant believe you are disputing that. had any other mayweather opponent at the time been told he has to submit himself to random blood testing leading up to the fight and if you dont then theres no fight? thats different.

its not madness. its different rules from his previous fights. The testing won't occur during the fight so its not different rules. The rules didn't change. Stop it man. Even if Floyd was basically being a dick when he asked For osdt. Manny made himself look guilty by his excuses. He now wants the same deal 3 yrs later. That suggests hthe only thing different now is he may be off the stuff. Its really not more complicated than that.

Shade stop the madness. Floyd only asked for osdt, that's not different rules. Manny asked for and got glove size and ring size. Its not a big deal. There was no justification for manny refusing to fight over osdt back then. Ever since manny's initial refusal, both sides have decided not to budge. No honest person makes a request for osdt a reason not to fight.and, if manny hadn,t made ridiculous excuses, he wouldn't have msade himself look so guilty. its not madness. its different rules from his previous fights.

very true, however its also true that pacquiao offered to fight floyd by the same rules he fought everybody else, and floyd turned that down. they are both as bad as each other. Shade stop the madness. Floyd only asked for osdt, that's not different rules. Manny asked for and got glove size and ring size. Its not a big deal. There was no justification for manny refusing to fight over osdt back then. Ever since manny's initial refusal, both sides have decided not to budge. No honest person makes a request for osdt a reason not to fight.and, if manny hadn,t made ridiculous excuses, he wouldn't have msade himself look so guilty.

So offering conditions that might including cheating is ok because others with less pull are in many ways forced to except them , then the top dog says wait a minute if you want to fight me it will be all above board and clean and we will both do the same , and thats not right , come on dude look at the big picture . might include cheating? ok, why did he have 40 odd fights before that then, that might have had cheating?

Sorry, but refusing to submit to stricter testing is a lot worse than requesting stricter testing. As far as this discussion, I can understand why some people would be put off by anyone who claims that Mayweather is the goat. I think that people should temper those kind of opinions. You can say that Mayweather is the best fighter that you've seen instead of the best ever. Like others have said, there's no real way to prove whether he's better than the atgs of the past and his resume certainly isn't better. I do think that too much emphasis is put on resume(paper) and not enough is put on what happened in the ring. yes id agree with the opening sentence. however refusing to fight because you cant get the extra testing is worse than the lot considering the fact that floyd didnt have a problem fighting the 40 odd guys before that fight with the same rules. i just found it awfully funny at the time that mayweather kicked up a big fuss any time this asian midgets name was mentioned about a fight with floyd. as far as mayweather being the goat, you have to prove it. to be the best, you have to beat the best. and like i said before, floyd has fought most of the best guys of this era. but he hasnt fought pacquiao. and even if he does, its past its sell by date. the cotto fight was 4 or 5 years late aswell. put mayweather in the ring with any welterweight from any era and he stands a good chance is the best way to say it i guess.

very true, however its also true that pacquiao offered to fight floyd by the same rules he fought everybody else, and floyd turned that down. they are both as bad as each other. So offering conditions that might including cheating is ok because others with less pull are in many ways forced to except them , then the top dog says wait a minute if you want to fight me it will be all above board and clean and we will both do the same , and thats not right , come on dude look at the big picture .

very true, however its also true that pacquiao offered to fight floyd by the same rules he fought everybody else, and floyd turned that down. they are both as bad as each other. Sorry, but refusing to submit to stricter testing is a lot worse than requesting stricter testing. As far as this discussion, I can understand why some people would be put off by anyone who claims that Mayweather is the goat. I think that people should temper those kind of opinions. You can say that Mayweather is the best fighter that you've seen instead of the best ever. Like others have said, there's no real way to prove whether he's better than the atgs of the past and his resume certainly isn't better. I do think that too much emphasis is put on resume(paper) and not enough is put on what happened in the ring.

ACtually the truth is he offered manny 2 deals to fight, both of which Manny turned down. But I know truthfulness is not something usually found in any abundance in manny's fans posts. very true, however its also true that pacquiao offered to fight floyd by the same rules he fought everybody else, and floyd turned that down. they are both as bad as each other.

You mean the Cotto manny wants next at a catchweight? no, i thought he meant the cotto that floyd fought after pacquiao knocked him out! i thought it was pacquiao who fought leftovers! lol

There's no way in hell you can degrade Mayweather's WW resume on paper or not.