Some of the MMA Fighters I think could have or can still do good in Boxing are:Aldo, Edgar, both Diaz Brothers, Anderson, Sergei, Hunt and Dos Santos. I'm interested to know which MMA Fighters you think could have some success in Boxing
Yep good points made about the lower division Fighters. BJ and Aleksander could be included when considering talent but their work ethic could have let them down.
One of the reasons why Anderson and Dos Santos could potentially have done the best in Boxing out of the MMA Fighters isn't just their talent and work ethic it's because their divisions isn't as deep as you mentioned.
I know it's speculation though but I just was interested to see the different opinions
Yeah, it's an interesting question.
I almost even want to say Genki Sudo. Not because he has any great boxing skills, but the guy is just a complete genius when it comes to fighting. This is assuming that he had started boxing early enough. There are instances of guys who are as unorthodox as can be in boxing making it to the world level. Sam Solimon for instance. Ricardo Mayorga is another example. In Mayorga's case his natural power did have a lot to do with it, but he also punched from all angles.
Yeah, that's a fine point. I didn't consider that JDS had started his training so late. In any case, I would say the heavyweight and cruiserweight fighters would have the most hope. It's hard to think of too many lower weight boxers who I can see having potentially made it in the pros, based on what abilities they have. There are a few guys who may be such good athletes that they could have done it, had they trained from early, but that's a difficult one to demonstrate in any individual case. I don't even know who I'd suggest. Possibly a guy like BJ Penn could've been a boxer, but I don't exactly imagine him moving too far up in the rankings. Same probably goes for any superb athlete (like GSP, Aldo, and others), they'd beat a lot of guys, but when they started to fight more able fighters they'd likely be beat. Boxing is a sport where your flaws get exposed when you start to reach the relatively higher levels.
In the upper weights, possibly even Aleksander Emelianenko could be another potential guy. He's taller and lengthier than Fedor, and he does have pretty good hands.
Yep good points made about the lower division Fighters. BJ and Aleksander could be included when considering talent but their work ethic could have let them down.
One of the reasons why Anderson and Dos Santos could potentially have done the best in Boxing out of the MMA Fighters isn't just their talent and work ethic it's because their divisions isn't as deep as you mentioned.
I know it's speculation though but I just was interested to see the different opinions
I mentioned Sergei and you make good points he has the credentials, but let's consider talent as well. Sergei has been training his Boxing since he was 10, Dos Santos started training his Boxing when he was 21-22 his progress has been very impressive also his work ethic is more consistent that's why I think Dos Santos would do better than him
Yeah, that's a fine point. I didn't consider that JDS had started his training so late. In any case, I would say the heavyweight and cruiserweight fighters would have the most hope. It's hard to think of too many lower weight boxers who I can see having potentially made it in the pros, based on what abilities they have. There are a few guys who may be such good athletes that they could have done it, had they trained from early, but that's a difficult one to demonstrate in any individual case. I don't even know who I'd suggest. Possibly a guy like BJ Penn could've been a boxer, but I don't exactly imagine him moving too far up in the rankings. Same probably goes for any superb athlete (like GSP, Aldo, and others), they'd beat a lot of guys, but when they started to fight more able fighters they'd likely be beat. Boxing is a sport where your flaws get exposed when you start to reach the relatively higher levels.
In the upper weights, possibly even Aleksander Emelianenko could be another potential guy. He's taller and lengthier than Fedor, and he does have pretty good hands.
I'm kind of glad Sergei Kharitonov was mentioned.
JDS has good boxing for MMA IMO. Not sure how he'd do in boxing.
Heard JDS was unbeaten in 21 kickboxing matches though. 21 KO's too. Not sure if that's true but that's what I heard.
That's a rumour but Dos Santos has a Boxing record of 8-0 he said it was Amateur or something similar like exhibitions at the Gym. Sergei has the more impressive credentials but if both had just focused on Boxing I see Dos Santos doing better
I'm saying once again, Kharitonov is the obvious choice.
Why? Because he was a world class amateur boxer before he became an MMA fighter.
Especially if we are talking about potential.
I know he has plodding footwork, but he fights with a Russian style of boxing. And as has been mentioned, the HW division is sh it.
I mentioned Sergei and you make good points he has the credentials, but let's consider talent as well. Sergei has been training his Boxing since he was 10, Dos Santos started training his Boxing when he was 21-22 his progress has been very impressive also his work ethic is more consistent that's why I think Dos Santos would do better than him
Potential? What does that mean? Silva tried and failed there's nothing else to it. And yeah, sparring sessions do show us a lot about how they'll do in boxing. They clearly show they aren't able to hold the pace with boxers. There has not been one example of an MMA fighter being able to match a half decent pro boxer.
Potential or talent you get me. Well MMA Fighters don't just focus on Boxing, as you know Boxing has the deepest talent pool of all Combat Sports so an MMA Fighter can't just do some Boxing and expect to take on the elite. They'd have to focus on it, I haven't said any MMA Fighter would for sure go to Boxing and do great, it's just speculation so I wanna see who People think could potentially be successful in Boxing had they gone or even went now with years of training
I'm kind of glad Sergei Kharitonov was mentioned.
JDS has good boxing for MMA IMO. Not sure how he'd do in boxing.
Heard JDS was unbeaten in 21 kickboxing matches though. 21 KO's too. Not sure if that's true but that's what I heard.
I wouldn't doubt too much that it's true, but I'm sure against no-name competition in Brazil.
I'm saying once again, Kharitonov is the obvious choice.
Why? Because he was a world class amateur boxer before he became an MMA fighter.
Especially if we are talking about potential.
I know he has plodding footwork, but he fights with a Russian style of boxing. And as has been mentioned, the HW division is sh it.
I wouldn't take too much from a sparring session from a while ago, also we're talking about potential here too
Potential? What does that mean? Silva tried and failed there's nothing else to it. And yeah, sparring sessions do show us a lot about how they'll do in boxing. They clearly show they aren't able to hold the pace with boxers. There has not been one example of an MMA fighter being able to match a half decent pro boxer.
That isn't what I was saying. What I am saying though is that videos of sparring allows us to evaluate guys' boxing skills. It wasn't a question of saying who's the better boxer between Fedor and JDS, it was a case of "we have here some sparring footage, lets have a look."
Obviously, to determine who is better they'd have to fight. I did give my evaluation of JDS, but that's what the videos are there for. I'd be interested in hearing other peoples' opinions on either or both of the videos as well.
That's fine I wasn't sure what you were implying actually I just wanted to see, I thought maybe your reasons would have been something like what you said, also you're right we are here to discuss things.
Dos Santos vs Overeem should happen
I'm a Fan of Fedor and Dos Santos, but if you're saying who is a better Boxer by the videos you showed I don't agree. Also consider that the Dos Santos video was from a while ago he has improved since then
That isn't what I was saying. What I am saying though is that videos of sparring allows us to evaluate guys' boxing skills. It wasn't a question of saying who's the better boxer between Fedor and JDS, it was a case of "we have here some sparring footage, lets have a look."
Obviously, to determine who is better they'd have to fight. I did give my evaluation of JDS, but that's what the videos are there for. I'd be interested in hearing other peoples' opinions on either or both of the videos as well.
Well, it does allow you to evaluate his boxing skills, so I don't see why you wouldn't.
I'm a Fan of Fedor and Dos Santos, but if you're saying who is a better Boxer by the videos you showed I don't agree. Also consider that the Dos Santos video was from a while ago he has improved since then
I wouldn't take too much from a sparring session from a while ago, also we're talking about potential here too
Well, it does allow you to evaluate his boxing skills, so I don't see why you wouldn't.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=152826&cat=boxer
Amazingly Silva was stopped in a Pro boxing contest by an eventual scrub in 1998 and won a bout in 2005. The rest was MMA. He is a talent, though and if started out in the sweetscience, I believe he would have been quite good.
i was about to post this
i went to a mma kickboxing fight live kastnight and was stunned with how little craft/technique was used
boxing was so fined tuned over the years it will take mma a very long time to become as difficult i dont see any top mma fighter doing well in boxing
top fighters are born and bred
this sport is very unique
Dos Santos being schooled in sparring by an amateur middleweight (by the looks of things, he can't really throw a proper punch to save his life--not a requirement in MMA of course):
The Klitschkos had destroyed guys much more faster and technical than Dos Santos early in their careers, finishing them in the early rounds.The thing is that MMA has much less talent pool than boxing.If Dos Santos is really as good for compete for a title in boxing, then he would box and not be an MMA fighter earning 200.000 dollars for a fight for the HW championship in the UFC vs Frank Mir.That is ridicoulous, be real.
Kharitonov is a guy who really has a chin and hits hard (harder than Dos Santos too) and have experience at boxing.He fought in that aiba semi-pro with a 18 year old kid amateur and eat 1-2 all day with no response.If Kharitonov can't do nothing in boxing, nobody in MMA actually can't do.Also, as I said yesterday, Ray Sefo, the great kickboxer (boxing based), tried in pro-boxing during his prime, and was knocked out cold (in K-1 his chin is considered legendary) by an anonnymous six rounder bum in the first round.
The conclusions are obvious.