I agree, Cotto tried to force Tony to fight at 150, Tony refused..
If Cotto can make 150 for Tony, why not Pac?
Its all about advantages.. I wouldnt be mad if Cotto said no.. Cotto should ask for 152lbs..
The real question is, why would people want to see Pac slaughter Cotto again?
Its a horrible style match up for Cotto.. Pac is too fast and has too many angles, Cotto is slow as sh1t.. Pac fights at a fast past unlike Floyd, who takes his time.. Throw Pac is a southpaw and Cotto is a southpaw fighting orthodox, and having no right hand whatsoever... Just a horrible match up for Cotto
Mayweather asked for a catch weight for Martinez. What do you make of this?
It was Martinez who first offered to drop to a catchweight, not Floyd who demanded it. Apples, oranges.
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LOL, you're not even close. That's from January of 2012, you're off by HALF A PHUCKING YEAR. And you didn't even bother to read the actual article because nowhere in it does Floyd demand a catchweight. He simply responds to Sergio's proposal.
Call Whine-1-1, we need a waahhh-bulance, Pac stan down! Pac stan down!
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-jr-if-martinez-make-150-we-fight--48685
http://timenerdworld.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/slap5.jpg?w=600&h=400&crop=1
lmao this kid hates his life.
LMAO, Phag-Aid can't even get her dates right.
That video is from May 2012. Martinez first offered to drop to 150 back in September 2011.
Look at you in your tight little pants. Cute.
http://timenerdworld.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/slap5.jpg?w=600&h=400&crop=1
sonned
This is the 3rd time & 3rd catchweight. But it's ok because Pacman is supposed to be the greatest fighter of this generation. So what the greatest fighter wants, he gets. He doesn't fight them healthy. he leaves that for Floyd & B-Hop. Because he's soooo great & all. He leaves it for guys like the Ghost & Bradley cause they're not great like him.
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i did'nt say YOU said he was anti CW...but plenty of times in this thread , he was claimed as that.....it was'nt about floyd but it was the floyd fans talking sh1t as if floyd is'nt guilty of doing the same....dude, CW is CW whether it was requested or agreed upon...it is meant to gain advantage....you dont think sergio is the one who'd benefit from the CW even if he was the one who requested it , do you?
no i dont i think he has a lot to loose but i just think he said that cause he knows thats almost the only way he'll get him in the ring and eventually het a big payday, but i agree with u the cw will not help martinez at all we just have to wait and see wat happens
Why does Pacquaio keep wanting to fight Cotto at catch weight?
Fight him at 154 like a real man..wtf
because he is an idiot who does anything bob arum says.
floyd mayweather always used to say that pac was fighting floyds leftovers...............
but on a serious note, until you so called boxing fans stop buying these two ****houses fights, expect the same ****.
Margarita was going UP in weight from his previous 150 pound fight with Manny, so throw that catchweight garbage out the door.
Manny and freddy just look for advantages over there opponents. Freddy knows that weight makes a whole lota difference in boxing so he advises manny to request these catchweights. Lets see manny fight JMM at 140 pounds.
Then he should stay at WW.
Catchweights should never be allowed in any Championship fight.
If Pacquiao and Cotto fight it is not a championship fight. They are not champions at this time.
im not saying he is anti cw wat im saying is he didn't demand it and i agree that he has a few big fights at cw but the thread wasnt even bout floyd and he was dragged into it and my argument was not that he is anti cw was that he didnt request it he agreed to it that's all i'm saying
i did'nt say YOU said he was anti CW...but plenty of times in this thread , he was claimed as that.....it was'nt about floyd but it was the floyd fans talking sh1t as if floyd is'nt guilty of doing the same....dude, CW is CW whether it was requested or agreed upon...it is meant to gain advantage....you dont think sergio is the one who'd benefit from the CW even if he was the one who requested it , do you?
I'm going to be real here Manny just don't like to take risk anymore because he made it. People talk about Floyd fighting all these big guys martinez etc etc but the fact is floyd and manny are the same size weight wise, Floyd has never came in the ring on fight night over 151 and manny comes in around the same weight so all this manny to small crap is bs. Styles mean everything, Floyd doesn't get hit alot so he can fight at higher weights, manny does so that's why he doesn't want to fight him above 150, remember he did get his eardrum busted in the first fight
does'nt matter..he did this knowing he was fighting cotto at full 154...and the problem here is that a some are portraying floyd as some kind of anti cathcweight when the truth is pacman, cotto, and floyd are all open to it...
im not saying he is anti cw wat im saying is he didn't demand it and i agree that he has a few big fights at cw but the thread wasnt even bout floyd and he was dragged into it and my argument was not that he is anti cw was that he didnt request it he agreed to it that's all i'm saying what i think bout cw is that they should not even exist that's why they have different divisions if u wanna fight the champ and hes biggerr than u then too bad as a challenger u shouldn't make them come down to you u should take their title in that specific division and i assure u that if floyd and martinesz fight it will be for floyd belt not for martinez i'm just guessing here not sure but pac made cotto the back then champ go down to him and beat the sht out of him i know cotto agreed to it but still if u a challenger then u should go to the champion's weigh and beat him to be able to take the title but tha's just my opinion ....
Well I guess if you look at it in Manny's case. He has fought a lot of CW fights these past years. Even though he was coming in the ring at 140 pounds way back in his first fight with Morales. IMO the CW clause Manny was using to even suggest it was lame. But if a guy 100% agrees to it then its all fair game. But if the opponent has issues with the CW and is forced to fight under contract from their promoter or belt commissions then that is different. From what I can remember so far. The people Floyd has fought at CW is either him going up to fight them or a challenger going wanting to fight him at a certain weight. IMO, if you ask for it then its fair game.
dude, manny has been a champion in 8 divisions...if there's anyone more entitled to a CW , it's him at this point.....let cotto or floyd fight in as muich weight classes as pac and let's see if they dont do that...sh1t, cotto has only fought at 3 weighclaesses and already demanded a CW...floyd too in his 5th weightclass..how much more in their 6th, 7th 8th...
dude, the ones claiming thier fighter is anti CW are floyd fans...nobody said pac was anti CW..yes you ar right , they need to use thier head ...pac fans , floyd fans and cotto fans...their fighters are all about gaining some advatage but what im sayin is " dont hate on one guy"...and who forced who at a CW? it's got to be a one dumb SOB to be forced at a CW
Well I guess if you look at it in Manny's case. He has fought a lot of CW fights these past years. Even though he was coming in the ring at 140 pounds way back in his first fight with Morales. IMO the CW clause Manny was using to even suggest it was lame. But if a guy 100% agrees to it then its all fair game. But if the opponent has issues with the CW and is forced to fight under contract from their promoter or belt commissions then that is different. From what I can remember so far. The people Floyd has fought at CW is either him going up to fight them or a challenger going wanting to fight him at a certain weight. IMO, if you ask for it then its fair game.
Well think about this. How can he be an anti catchweight when two of his biggest fights he practically fought at catchweights. I don't know who said that but they need to use their heads. I think Floyd just wouldn't force someone at a weight they know they will be drained at. But if the opponent suggested it then its fair game.
dude, the ones claiming thier fighter is anti CW are floyd fans...nobody said pac was anti CW..yes you ar right , they need to use thier head ...pac fans , floyd fans and cotto fans...their fighters are all about gaining some advatage but what im sayin is " dont hate on one guy"...and who forced who at a CW? it's got to be a one dumb SOB to be forced at a CW
does'nt matter..he did this knowing he was fighting cotto at full 154...and the problem here is that a some are portraying floyd as some kind of anti cathcweight when the truth is pacman, cotto, and floyd are all open to it...
Well think about this. How can he be an anti catchweight when two of his biggest fights he practically fought at catchweights. I don't know who said that but they need to use their heads. I think Floyd just wouldn't force someone at a weight they know they will be drained at. But if the opponent suggested it then its fair game.
that was after the fact that martinez had proposed them to go down in weigh himself this has been happening for like 1 1/2 to 2 years now he had called cotto and floyd and even pacman and he was even willing to go down that's why when asked floyd said well if he can make that weigh than lets do it he didnt really asked for it a guy offer and the other accep that's it.
does'nt matter..he did this knowing he was fighting cotto at full 154...and the problem here is that a some are portraying floyd as some kind of anti cathcweight when the truth is pacman, cotto, and floyd are all open to it...
Floyd demanded 150, man
“if Sergio Martinez can make a 150,we can make the fight, absolutely. There are no excuses. If he can make 150, let’s make it happen”
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-jr-if-martinez-make-150-we-fight--48685
Read the question first dude. He didn't demand it. Read the question and then read Mayweathers answer... Sergio said he was willing to fight Floyd at 150. Floyd responds in saying if he can make the weight then they can fight.
Floyd demanded 150, man
“if Sergio Martinez can make a 150,we can make the fight, absolutely. There are no excuses. If he can make 150, let’s make it happen”
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-jr-if-martinez-make-150-we-fight--48685
LOL if u read the whole damn add it clearly stated that martinez offered to come down in weight and floyd stated well if he can make it then lets fight u guys don't understand it even with the add you posted is clearly says martinez offered may didnt demand it he just agreed and affirmed that if he can make it lets fight.