I understand certain concerns about him, and he hasn't beaten anyone worth talking about. It is risky as I know this could come back to haunt me and I don't normally take a risk like this especially with a green prospect but Wilder has grown on me and become one of my favorite prospects.
I see progress with him both in his body he has filled out greatly and even how he fights in the ring as he looks like a real fighter now. He still has a ways to go but those changes prove he has a proper work ethic plus a desire to listen and improve. I also like the fact that he hurts dudes with one shot, I miss that from heavyweight boxing.
I don't want to hear garbage about him here so stay the hell out if that is what you are trying to spout, valid criticism I will accept because has a long way to go and who knows if he ever maximizes his abilities. I really jsut want to see who is positive on him at this early stage.
So let's hear it who is fan and willing to jump on the bandwagon early.
Haha 7 year old thread and I can still bump it.
Range and power things that will take you far in the heavyweight division, especially that crazy one of a kind power.
So has this whole drama surrounding the Joshua fight made you more or less of a Wilder fan. It seems to me he gained a fair bit of support from this ordeal which only adds to his appeal going forward which should spell nicely for his check against whatever opponent they dig up for Wilder.
It certainly seems like Wilder won this round, because the best Joshua fans seem to be able to argue is a push and they have to bend over backs and wink one eye to make that come out, although I do think Wilder's side played the game too because they knew the deal going in and it is easy to call bluffs when you know you won't get called.
Sucks because he will probably fight Breazeale next and that guy is a total stiff, he will make Wilder look amazing though because that is two different brands of athletes.
All aboard, it took a long time to get here but it appears Wilder has finally turned a corner.
Props to the true og Wilder fans who put up with nonsense for all these years and still deal with it.
SO my question would be who is next if not Joshua which is out of his hands, Breazeale would be very meh or anyone of that ilk, personally I would think going for Parker would be good but other than that not too much is out there of note perhaps Povetkin but would he come to the US? Kownacki I guess could work but as a second rung guy with a bit of upside that should probably wait a bit, but if they have to do it now it would work.
Look at the audience's reaction, they looked disturbed like "holy fvck", even the Charlos are like god damn
Like Jermall Charlo said '' Is he OK?! Is you OK?! ''
Any new fans LOL.
I mean Stiverne is done at the top (and probably in general) and clearly had nothing for Wilder tonight so no real meaning in this win.
Still looking impressive never hurts a guy no matter the opponent and always helps makes some new fans
Yeah, I misunderstood your post, my bad.
I think he will because the credible threat is Dillian Whyte.
He's a beatable guy who's win over gives him exposure to the British public thus a better negotiationing leverage vs Joshua plus he'd get the biggest payday of his career.
The only person imo who can stop this fight from happening is Suleiman with his mandatory BS but he always goes where the money is. And the money is with Hearn.
I don't rate Whyte, he's perfect fodder to build up Wilder as a super fighter. I guess Wilder is just delaying angling for more money which is understandable.
I'm starting to believe Wilder will take that fight hence why Parker hasn't been offered it, Wilder vs Joshua is easily a bigger fight for the summer, Parker really hasn't looked great lately I'm not sure what his UK standing is but I'm sure Wilder with his many Sky appearances is easily a bigger sell. Wilder was in the commentary team for AJ Wlad, the fans were screaming for him after the Takam fight.
Wilder is being offered Febuary.
So I'm asking you do you believe he takes on a credible threat between now and unifying ?
Yeah, I misunderstood your post, my bad.
I think he will because the credible threat is Dillian Whyte.
He's a beatable guy who's win over gives him exposure to the British public thus a better negotiationing leverage vs Joshua plus he'd get the biggest payday of his career.
The only person imo who can stop this fight from happening is Suleiman with his mandatory BS but he always goes where the money is. And the money is with Hearn.
Wilder is being offered Febuary.
So I'm asking you do you believe he takes on a credible threat between now and unifying ?
Get your hating ass out of my thread~
Whyte fight wasn't realistic at this time.
Hearn was willing to pay him 4m pounds for the fight in the UK, not in Alabama. That's the whole point of fight, introduce him to the British public.
I don't blame Wilder for not wanting to travel to the UK which such short notice.
Wilder is being offered Febuary.
So I'm asking you do you believe he takes on a credible threat between now and unifying ?
You think he endangers himself to losing the belt ? I don't see it, Whyte is truly awful and he wants no part of him !
Whyte fight wasn't realistic at this time.
Hearn was willing to pay him 4m pounds for the fight in the UK, not in Alabama. That's the whole point of fight, introduce him to the British public.
I don't blame Wilder for not wanting to travel to the UK which such short notice.
Despite a near DQ against Charlie Z for hitting Charlie when he was begging for his life... Seriously he has improved a lot with setting up his shots. Its really a question of how much he can continue to improve because guys like Whyte, Parker and even Joshua have a little more seasoning in the ring. Wilder also has got to be able to throw more punches a round.
I think he needs to start using the uppercut, i have been watching some of his highlights and the shot is right there for him
I think he should fight Whyte even if the Joshua fight next isn't a guarantee.
It'd shut his critics (such as myself) up because he would have fought the only top(ish) heavy that would be available at the time.
Because if Hearn decided to go with Haye or Fury (two most likely opponents other than Wilder for the summer showdown), Deontay could honestly say 'I've done everything I can to make this fight happen'.
It'd put an enormous pressure on Hearns to make this fight happen and would gain him the respect from the fans he's currently lacking.
That is true, I could see him going about either way and wouldn't be bothered really.
Plus Whyte would be worth more, he can probably make like 2 million fighting Breazeale maybe 2.5 if Breazeale handles business tonight and the bad blood between the guys seeps out tonight. Still Whyte by the end of the day is probably pushing 5 million for Wilder which is insane, and Wilder is not the sort of fighter that should be worried about judges (ref maybe). In boxing it is generally wise to just take the money, not to mention the backend help if it raises his profile and gets him even more for the big fight, while Breazeale would likely be neutral for that purpose (just like any other win).
Despite a near DQ against Charlie Z for hitting Charlie when he was begging for his life... Seriously he has improved a lot with setting up his shots. Its really a question of how much he can continue to improve because guys like Whyte, Parker and even Joshua have a little more seasoning in the ring. Wilder also has got to be able to throw more punches a round.
Yea I agree he pretty much is what he is at this point and that will either be good enough or not. He can improve a bit if he keeps working hard in the gym but he is always going to have certain issues.
He can still be pretty damn good with his issues because he has strengths to help cover them up but they will always be there to a degree.
With Parker I just don't know he seems like he is in his own bubble, when he is the guy that really needs to be throwing his hat in the ring. I just don't know what Parker brings outside the UK, I can't see Parker going to Nigeria and fighting Parker in Vegas or New York he could basically fight anyone and probably do better not having to pay off Parker to drop his belt.
Yea it is pretty much Whyte or Breazeale (I am counting Molina out if he wins I will be disgusted at that prospect), they are not similar fighters obviously but I would rate them as about equals and with both being Joshua left overs they both basically serve the exact same purpose. I guess they could do Macau or something that would be outside the box.
To me the choice between those two really comes down to a Joshua guarantee should he beat Whyte, if Hearn is playing games Wilder should probably just do his own thing and fight Breazeale no need to line Hearn's pockets if the Joshua fight is not really on the table. If the Joshua fight is happening if he beats Whyte then there is no other way for him to go, he needs to do what it takes to secure the fight.
To me that is average though like a lot of Wilder's run, so honestly I couldn't expect him to get any real recognition, although Wilder really just needs to keep winning and he will be just fine.
I think he should fight Whyte even if the Joshua fight next isn't a guarantee.
It'd shut his critics (such as myself) up because he would have fought the only top(ish) heavy that would be available at the time.
Because if Hearn decided to go with Haye or Fury (two most likely opponents other than Wilder for the summer showdown), Deontay could honestly say 'I've done everything I can to make this fight happen'.
It'd put an enormous pressure on Hearn to make this fight happen and would gain him the respect from the fans he's currently lacking.