Why is it that Olympic Boxing isnt for Pros? I mean you want the best that your country has to offer right!! If the Dream Team2 can have Lebron and Kobe, and Soccer can have all their Pros, Why cant Boxing?? I like the Olympics and all, but they need to weed out some of the weak events they consider Olympics Sports, like Badminton and that boring *ss horseshow walking crap. whats next? Olympics weaving and knitting? or paper airplanes and paper football flick? lmbo!!
6 Robberies in 2 day.... 3 of which where very close fights in how many bouts?
As for the Brits results, crowds effect scoring in the Pro's as much as the AM's there are 10's of thousands of rabid Brits screaming for the home team it's going to have an effect.
OMG you just brought up Rios-Abril, that automatically makes all the robberies in the past 2 days "too close" to be robberies :lol1:
And look another brit giving the nod to the brits in obvious robberies
But ill also include the Gausha, the Bogdan Juratoni, the Ali Mazaheri, the Khytrov, the Satoshi Shimizu and the The joshua robberies all withen a 2 day period. Thats 6 obvious robberies in 2 days
I was merely using Rios-Abril as an example. If you want something else, then I would categorise something as a 1-2 point fight as something that doesn't necessarily qualify as a robbery.
As such, I don't consider Gausha, Ogogo or Joshua as "robberies". The Shimizu fight, which was a robbery, was overturned. That leaves Juratoni and Mazaheri, making two. I don't know whether appeals were lodged by their countries, but I would suspect that given that AIBA have shown their willingness to have bad decisions overturned, that if they had they would be heard.
And please note that I am not "another brit giving the nod to the brits"; I clearly said that I thought Joshua and Ogogo lost their fights. Don't make points because of nationalistically based agendas. I notice you have a large picture of Lomachenko in your sig, and you come from Central Europe. Does that mean I should ignore what you have to say? No.
Frankly, I'd rather see the Olympics go back to being strictly amateur. The sight of a basketball superstar like Kobe Bryant kissing his Olympic gold medal makes me sick. As if these pro ballplayers didn't have enough going for them, they find it amusing to kick the butts of athletes who don't even play their sport full-time.
Yesterday, the United States vaporized Nigeria 156-73. It's not embarrassing to lose that way; it's embarrassing to win that way. The pros have their championships, which determine who is truly the best. They have their mind-boggling contracts and ultra-lucrative endorsements. The amateurs had the Olympics, which used to determine which were the best amateur athletes in the world. An Olympic gold medal was the greatest thing many of these amateurs aspired to. Now they can’t even have that.
But while it's farcical to have superstar pros compete with part-time basketball players, it's downright dangerous to have the best professional boxers compete with amateurs. Can you imagine Manny Pacquiao versus an eighteen year-old from, say, Namibia? The scoring system wouldn't matter. Fights between top pros and amateurs wouldn't last three rounds.
This i agree with! NO PROS IN ANY EVENT THATS USES A BALL OR PHYSICAL CONTACT.
The olympics should be fair. If pro boxers fought in the olympics i wouldnt expect them to fight amateurs. Only the best from other countries. As far as monies go. Yes Americans do get paid for the medals. But they also pay a ridiculously high tax for them aswell! Which is sickening to me.
Frankly, I'd rather see the Olympics go back to being strictly amateur. The sight of a basketball superstar like Kobe Bryant kissing his Olympic gold medal makes me sick. As if these pro ballplayers didn't have enough going for them, they find it amusing to kick the butts of athletes who don't even play their sport full-time.
Yesterday, the United States vaporized Nigeria 156-73. It's not embarrassing to lose that way; it's embarrassing to win that way. The pros have their championships, which determine who is truly the best. They have their mind-boggling contracts and ultra-lucrative endorsements. The amateurs had the Olympics, which used to determine which were the best amateur athletes in the world. An Olympic gold medal was the greatest thing many of these amateurs aspired to. Now they can’t even have that.
But while it's farcical to have superstar pros compete with part-time basketball players, it's downright dangerous to have the best professional boxers compete with amateurs. Can you imagine Manny Pacquiao versus an eighteen year-old from, say, Namibia? The scoring system wouldn't matter. Fights between top pros and amateurs wouldn't last three rounds.
I don't want to see pro's in 'amateur' boxing. Why can't people get into their thick skulls that AM boxing is a different entity to the pro game?
and that in itself is a reason why pro's don't compete in it - it's technically a different sport.
You get paid big for winning gold and decent for silver.. (more than most fighters would for a fight) and get decent pay for bronze
Payment for winning Olympic medals varies by country.
The United States Olympic Committee pays its medal winners $25,000 to gold medal winners, $15,000 to those who take home a silver and $10,000 for a bronze. Some of the richer U.S. sport federations give additional prize money to their winners as well. (Wikianswers)
Assuming the above information is correct, I don't think too many professional boxers would consider winning an Olympic medal, even gold, financially rewarding.
The reason pro's don't and can't compete is because the rules for amateur boxing differ from professional boxing.
The scoring system is different, and obviously there is the use of head gear and heavier gloves, etc.
Plus styles don't always translate well from AMs to PROs
I like the way they have it because the Olympics are like the minor leagues, a springboard for the new crop of young great fighters to showcase their talents.
Cause i doubt pro's especially the best in the world would want to go to the Olympics,they are looking for the big money fights and have bills to pay,they get paid per fight unlike Ball players who have contracts and get paid rather they play or not,huge difference
Correct. I'll add that basketball players get paid whether they're injured or not. I doubt a big name boxer would want to risk injury at the Olympics and have a lucrative pro bout postponed, or even cancelled, because they were vying for an Olympic medal.
All of those guys are pros in the football, the age cap is just that. Boxing is the only sport which doesn't allow pros, and the AIBA has made noises in the pastat wanting to inlude pros again.
@servilev, badminton isn't the sport I'd take out. You do have a point with dressage though, provides no spectacle.
@russian crushin don't exaggerate, there aren't 5 robberies a day, and there aren't fixed winners. If you're making a snide remark about Ogogo and Joshua, those fights are too close to be called robberies. Although I personally think that Khytrov and Savon deserved the nod, neither was at all the same scale as say, Rios-Abril. THAT is a robbery.
OMG you just brought up Rios-Abril, that automatically makes all the robberies in the past 2 days "too close" to be robberies :lol1:
And look another brit giving the nod to the brits in obvious robberies
But ill also include the Gausha, the Bogdan Juratoni, the Ali Mazaheri, the Khytrov, the Satoshi Shimizu and the The joshua robberies all withen a 2 day period. Thats 6 obvious robberies in 2 days
Why is it that Olympic Boxing isnt for Pros? I mean you want the best that your country has to offer right!! If the Dream Team2 can have Lebron and Kobe, and Soccer can have all their Pros, Why cant Boxing?? I like the Olympics and all, but they need to weed out some of the weak events they consider Olympics Sports, like Badminton and that boring *ss horseshow walking crap. whats next? Olympics weaving and knitting? or paper airplanes and paper football flick? lmbo!!
After the 1988 Games, the IOC decided to make all professional athletes eligible for the Olympics, subject to the approval of the IFs. As of 2004, the only sports in which no professionals compete are boxing and wrestling... (Wikipedia)
What is considered a "weak event" is a matter of opinion, usually shaped by the culture you were raised in. Baseball (one of my favorite sports) is very popular in the U.S., Japan, the Caribbean and some South American countries, but it has little or no appeal to the rest of the world. Soccer has never gained a real foothold (no pun intended) in the United States, yet everyone knows it's fiercely popular practically everywhere else.
soccer doedsnt use their pros its the u23 teams and 3 call ups
All of those guys are pros in the football, the age cap is just that. Boxing is the only sport which doesn't allow pros, and the AIBA has made noises in the pastat wanting to inlude pros again.
@servilev, badminton isn't the sport I'd take out. You do have a point with dressage though, provides no spectacle.
@russian crushin don't exaggerate, there aren't 5 robberies a day, and there aren't fixed winners. If you're making a snide remark about Ogogo and Joshua, those fights are too close to be called robberies. Although I personally think that Khytrov and Savon deserved the nod, neither was at all the same scale as say, Rios-Abril. THAT is a robbery.
Cause i doubt pro's especially the best in the world would want to go to the Olympics,they are looking for the big money fights and have bills to pay,they get paid per fight unlike Ball players who have contracts and get paid rather they play or not,huge difference
Why is it that Olympic Boxing isnt for Pros? I mean you want the best that your country has to offer right!! If the Dream Team2 can have Lebron and Kobe, and Soccer can have all their Pros, Why cant Boxing?? I like the Olympics and all, but they need to weed out some of the weak events they consider Olympics Sports, like Badminton and that boring *ss horseshow walking crap. whats next? Olympics weaving and knitting? or paper airplanes and paper football flick? lmbo!!
soccer doedsnt use their pros its the u23 teams and 3 call ups
Why is it that Olympic Boxing isnt for Pros? I mean you want the best that your country has to offer right!! If the Dream Team2 can have Lebron and Kobe, and Soccer can have all their Pros, Why cant Boxing?? I like the Olympics and all, but they need to weed out some of the weak events they consider Olympics Sports, like Badminton and that boring *ss horseshow walking crap. whats next? Olympics weaving and knitting? or paper airplanes and paper football flick? lmbo!!
The need to weed out boxing, nobody needs 5 robberies a day and fixed winners
And you've never watched badminton but its a pretty intense sport and popular in Asia, in no way is it a weak sport
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