The Ghost was coming off of shoulder surgery and a long layoff, plus he jumped up two weight classes. Yet he STILL clearly beat one of the strongest welterweights in the world.
Why are some of you not impressed with that? Did you think he didn't deserve the decision?
Are you saying that Robert is not accomplished? you may want to take a closer look at Guerrero,,,,
Also, incase you are not aware, in profesional boxing it is common for a fighter to move up in weight class and fight for a title in a class they are have not competed in, you dont have to "clear the Division" to get the shot... altough that would seem to be an expectation its not necessary...
He jumped what 8, 9 devisions? LOL He isnt accomplished at all. Fighting Katsidis makes you deserve a fight? LOL
Mayweather fought Ortiz so let's not act like he deserved a shot either.
Ortiz fought the best, had some wins, and some losses, He was in the right place at the right time, and beat up Berto who was WBC champ, undefeated, and number 2 at ww, since Floyd was retired. He EARNED his fight with Floyd.
Amir Khan wanted to fight Floyd, but he always admitted that he wasnt ready yet, and even had accomplishments that he wanted, BEFORE getting the fight. He wanted to unify, and basically earn his slot. Robert doesnt want to unify, accomplish ANYTHING. He just wants to jump head first into a fight with Floyd. He wants a hand out.
Are you saying that Robert is not accomplished? you may want to take a closer look at Guerrero,,,,
Also, incase you are not aware, in profesional boxing it is common for a fighter to move up in weight class and fight for a title in a class they are have not competed in, you dont have to "clear the Division" to get the shot... altough that would seem to be an expectation its not necessary...
The Ghost was coming off of shoulder surgery and a long layoff, plus he jumped up two weight classes. Yet he STILL clearly beat one of the strongest welterweights in the world.
Why are some of you not impressed with that? Did you think he didn't deserve the decision?
I'd bet it has almost nothing to do with the fight for many. He has the temerity to want to fight Mayweather. Like, it's a bad thing to WANT to fight the man.
The whole point of being a pro.
I don't think it is "HATE" I just think people are just confused as to WHY he is being HYPED UP as an opponent for Mayweather
while I understand that yes he could use the Big Pay Day to take care of his Wife Medical Bills and all that stuff and I wouldn't mind if Mayweather was to fight him as a Warm Up/Come Back Fight...I can understand why some fans are questioning why he is even being Mentioned or Considered as a possible opponent for Mayweather...lets be honest, he really don't have a chance, all that would be is a PayDay for him
Guerrero is good no doubt. But he barely won and almost got ko'd
He really dug deep in the last wto rounds but I think he know that as long as he stayed on his feet he'd win the fight.
Aydin landed cleaner punches but Ghost scored more points...hint, hint
:nonono: its easy to be fixated on the fighters you mention because they are getting good exposure from the networks.... RObert has had his moments on TV and he just hasnt generated as much interest,,,, that may be a fault of his own but he works hard and has great skills.
P.S. I dont think he gets to fight Floyd and him wanting a payday is no reason to hate him
Amir Khan wanted to fight Floyd, but he always admitted that he wasnt ready yet, and even had accomplishments that he wanted, BEFORE getting the fight. He wanted to unify, and basically earn his slot. Robert doesnt want to unify, accomplish ANYTHING. He just wants to jump head first into a fight with Floyd. He wants a hand out.
Guerrero just didn't look dominant, but the guy did win the fight so props to him. His punches just didn't seem to have much power behind them as Aydin's did and as he started getting into the championship rounds it just seemed to me like he was just avoiding being knocked out.
props to guerrero for moving up in weight and beating a top 10 rank welter
but he didnt look impressive. he was visibly tired but dug deep and just kept punching
maybe its the ring rust but down the stretch there was no snap on his punches. it reminds me of guerrero fights with escobedo and katsidis
he won those fights clearly but in the second half of those fights both escobedo and katsidis started to be more effective.
thats three fights i have noticed guerrero fade in the second half
im a fan of the ghost but those are my observation of him
just finished watching the fight..and it was pretty close. i thought it could have been a draw..but i could also see guerrero winning by a round. it definitely was not a shut out for guerrero. but i guess the long lay off and the move up in weight is the reason why guerrero didn't look that strong.
I actually think he can be competitive with Floyd, but I dont care. I HATE guys being gifted something they dont deserve. Khan, Bradley, Lamont, Berto, Ortiz, EVERYONE wants to fight Floyd. They are all fighting eachother to one day earn it. Robert just jumps classes, clears NONE of the divisions, and just thinks he should be handed the fight without any hard work. I dont care if he is competitive or not, I just dont want Floyd to fight anyone where their will be an asterisk like with JMM Who jumped classes. Everytime Floyd announces a fight, its a GREAT opponent and we all get excited. If he fights Robert, we have to sit through this long promotion, waste of money so he can hurry up, fight him, get that fight over with, then move on to a more credible opponent that has a name that will excite the boxing fans. I wont be interested in watching 24/7 with him and Robert, I wanna see Floyd fight a big strong guy like MAYBE Canelo or Ortiz, or Berto, or Martinez, or a guy like Pac. I dont want him to fight this tall, goofy, cotton punching, slick fighter..FOR WHAT???? I rather he fight Khan who has lightning speed, or a big power puncher like Berto, where Floyd has to avoid them all, or else be in trouble. ANY other fighter with a resume like Robert's, will say, "One day I want to fight Floyd, but I have allot of work to do" KHAN has a better resume, but he wouldnt fight Floyd until he cleared his division, yet Robert just wants to get HANDED a payday. He's a goofy looking, big eared DOPE!!
:nonono: its easy to be fixated on the fighters you mention because they are getting good exposure from the networks.... RObert has had his moments on TV and he just hasnt generated as much interest,,,, that may be a fault of his own but he works hard and has great skills.
P.S. I dont think he gets to fight Floyd and him wanting a payday is no reason to hate him
Guerrero won the fight, but let's be honest. Aydin was quite rough. All he really had was the ability to keep coming forward, with a solid chin, and throw hooks. It was pretty one dimensional, yet the Ghost didn't walk through him the way he would have a few division South.
Robert isn't garbage, he's a very solid fighter, but based on what I saw he's not as effective at 147 - by no means.
Aydin put his cards on the table early and the Ghost I've seen in the past would've had a bigger toolset to work with in adjusting; but at welterweight I think his pop is less, his stamina needs to be conserved a bit more, and he's got to be careful with the shots he's taking....
That said, it's only one fight at the weight after a lay off and a big jump up...
I'd give him another fight to acclimate; but I don't see him being a huge force at 147 at this point; I can see him winning a fight on points that he gets stopped in down the line here....
Guerrero didn't look as sharp but that was to be expected and in my opinion has nothing to do with the weight. Personally he filled in pretty well at '47, what he has to do is stay busier, I expect him to look like the old Ghost in his next fight. The rust was clearly there, rarely does Guerrero ever tire or paw with his jab, he's known to throw hard crisp shots going into the late rounds. People should definitely cut him some slack.
Exactly... Boxing fans r pathetic... No loyalty...
No one's saying he's the second coming of Christ, but to just immediately write him off after a clear, albeit hard-fought victory? A 15 month layoff, Shoulder surgery, and a jump up in weight... U didn't expect ring rust?
My view: The Clear "Boxing" Winner was Robert, he won the first half of the fight because of his activity and he threw/landed a bunch more punches.
But real talk? Robert lost the fight, Aydin landed the harder shots, the cleaner shots and he hurt Robert a few times. Just look at their faces at the end. What Robert did was Devon Alexander it, just run around and clinch and hold on for dear life while pitter patting his opponent with punches that wouldnt hurt a sheep.
in a Boxing sense Robert won, but I doubt he would look at Aydin in the eye on the street, he would get his ass whooped in a REAL fight...
Lucky for him, it was a boxing match, and not a street fight.
My view: The Clear "Boxing" Winner was Robert, he won the first half of the fight because of his activity and he threw/landed a bunch more punches.
But real talk? Robert lost the fight, Aydin landed the harder shots, the cleaner shots and he hurt Robert a few times. Just look at their faces at the end. What Robert did was Devon Alexander it, just run around and clinch and hold on for dear life while pitter patting his opponent with punches that wouldnt hurt a sheep.
in a Boxing sense Robert won, but I doubt he would look at Aydin in the eye on the street, he would get his ass whooped in a REAL fight...
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My view: The Clear "Boxing" Winner was Robert, he won the first half of the fight because of his activity and he threw/landed a bunch more punches.
But real talk? Robert lost the fight, Aydin landed the harder shots, the cleaner shots and he hurt Robert a few times. Just look at their faces at the end. What Robert did was Devon Alexander it, just run around and clinch and hold on for dear life while pitter patting his opponent with punches that wouldnt hurt a sheep.
in a Boxing sense Robert won, but I doubt he would look at Aydin in the eye on the street, he would get his ass whooped in a REAL fight...
15 month layoffs mess with fighters, they are not going to look great coming off one, especially moving up in weight. He proved he can handle welterweight strength and power, and that's what he needed to prove.
exactly......
The "Ghost" is a bum.
He won the fight, but I wasn't impressed with what he did. Should go to 140 imo.
Yet Aydin was able to beat 24 other guys that weren't "bums" and KO most of them, why not this "bum"