Aaron Pryor - greatest 140lber of all time?

GTFO....your no different then Pinoy's who only back and follow Pac cause of him being a country men. If Daryon was not Cuban and Lui was, you bet your a$$ you would be singing a different tune. What Dayron did was obviouse. Dayron opened and reached his hand as soon Liu was coming up. Look at all of Dayron's runs. He never opens his trialing hand that wide!!!! "Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind." - Albert Einstein "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein You see my images and username and believe that's enough to know a person. You accuse me of prejudice and in the same breath confirm your own. There are innocent people actively serving time in prison because certain evidence was considered damning "beyond a reasonable doubt." Like it or not, even the video evidence isn't enough to read into Dayron's mind and heart. Robles was justly penalized for his actions, regardless of intent. Below is a photo of the incident in question: http://forum.china.org.cn/attachments/1109010916fefeff81953312cb.jpg In an effort to get closer to the truth, I discovered that the Internet is divided between those who believe Robles’s foul was intentional and those who don’t. But as rabid as some fans have been in expressing their condemnation, I’ve encountered little out of the ordinary from the people who matter the most. Liu Xiang's words on the matter: "Robles hit me twice, at the ninth hurdle he pulled at me but I'm sure it wasn't intentional." (BBC Sport) "...felt like someone touched my elbow and I lost my balance for a while but then I managed to stabilize it. It happens all the time in the competitions. But this time, in the final of World championships, it was kind of different. I am OK with everything that happened today and this is a good achievement for me. Robles was well prepared. I tried my best (and got) no regret." (news.xinhuanet.com) David Oliver (U.S.) on Twitter: "So he might have gotten dq for hitting Liu, man that happens almost every single hurdle race, happened to me in the semi...tough break." Go on believing what you want. "It is harder to crack a prejudice than an atom." - Albert Einstein

That is true, 135 and 147 are two of the historically best division (if not the two best), 140 is like the fat chick between two hot girls, much easier to achieve success but much less glory in scoring the fat chick~ although doing well with the fat chick could lead to success with her hot friend. The moral of the story, if you want to be an ATG in a weight class don't fight at 135 or 147 where the competition is almost impossible to overcome, fight at 140 where the competition all time is much less stiff. :rofl: :rofl:

If anything, it shows how 140 doesn't have an especially rich division in history. It's had some serious talent, no doubt, but some of those guys (Floyd, Whitaker, Oscar) didn't stay there long. Tszyu has a long list of solid guys, but what are his best wins? Judah and Mitchell? Likewise, Chavez's best wins were Taylor and R. Mayweather. Outside of that, he had a long list of decent but unspectacular opponents. That is true, 135 and 147 are two of the historically best division (if not the two best), 140 is like the fat chick between two hot girls, much easier to achieve success but much less glory in scoring the fat chick~ although success with the fat chick could lead to success with her hot friends. The moral of the story, if you want to be an ATG in a weight class don't fight at 135 or 147 where the competition is almost impossible to overcome, fight at 140 where the competition all time is much less stiff.

If anything, it shows how 140 doesn't have an especially rich division in history. It's had some serious talent, no doubt, but some of those guys (Floyd, Whitaker, Oscar) didn't stay there long. Tszyu has a long list of solid guys, but what are his best wins? Judah and Mitchell? Likewise, Chavez's best wins were Taylor and R. Mayweather. Outside of that, he had a long list of decent but unspectacular opponents. That is true, 135 and 147 are two of the historically best division (if not the two best), 140 is like the fat chick between two hot girls, much easier to achieve success but much less glory in scoring the fat chick~ although doing well with the fat chick could lead to success with her hot friend. The moral of the story, if you want to be an ATG in a weight class don't fight at 135 or 147 where the competition is almost impossible to overcome, fight at 140 where the competition all time is much less stiff.

Alright, Aaron Pyror is a stud a stone cold killer in the ring but if he was around today he would get hated on pretty bad. Cervantes good win for the belt, but dude was pretty much ancient at that point. His two best defenses came against a guy that started at 126 and really didn't prove much at 140. Not to mention the whole bottle thing. After that who is his next best win Akio Kameda? Who is mainly know for his fighting sons? 3 really good wins is all it takes to be the best ever at 140? If anything, it shows how 140 doesn't have an especially rich division in history. It's had some serious talent, no doubt, but some of those guys (Floyd, Whitaker, Oscar) didn't stay there long. Tszyu has a long list of solid guys, but what are his best wins? Judah and Mitchell? Likewise, Chavez's best wins were Taylor and R. Mayweather. Outside of that, he had a long list of decent but unspectacular opponents.

Wow. Thanks for calling this to my attention, and providing a link. I was unaware of the incident; I don't follow track and field closely. I'm not sure what to think. There's a lot of controversy over what happened, with arguments on both sides. Robles's actions appeared intentional. Then again, there are other factors that indicate they might not have been. Intentional foul or not, Dayron was rightfully disqualified in that race. Unfortunately, I'm now suspicious of him. But the fact remains that Robles later won uncontested Olympic gold and holds an uncontested WR in the 110 meter hurdles. It's tough to condemn a man when you don't have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, so his picture remains in my sig. Pryor may have cheated against Arguello (and others) with the whole “bottle incident,” but we’ll never know. Is Aaron to be condemned for something we have no conclusive evidence about? GTFO....your no different then Pinoy's who only back and follow Pac cause of him being a country men. If Daryon was not Cuban and Lui was, you bet your a$$ you would be singing a different tune. What Dayron did was obviouse. Dayron opened and reached his hand as soon Liu was coming up. Look at all of Dayron's runs. He never opens his trialing hand that wide!!!! "Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind." - Albert Einstein

Oh, at 140 yes. Solely because it's not a deep division historically. Sorry that's what I meant..At 140lb,although he is one of my personal ATG fighters...

You don't believe Pryor could be one of the best 140lb fighters of all time?? Oh, at 140 yes. Solely because it's not a deep division historically.

He certainly is not. You don't believe Pryor could be one of the best 140lb fighters of all time??

I'm not old enough to have followed Pryor career..But I watch a lot of his fights and from what my uncle has told me about him he might be one of the best of all time..I'm also saying this cause he had a great fighting style.. He certainly is not.

Prime by prime? I think Timmy decisions him no problem,and you have to consider that Pryor´s legendary stamina will be forever questioned due to his scumbag trainer. Good point..I really loved watching pryor fight, but that is true..Lewis is a true dirtbag..

THIS. Most Pryor fans here in NSB aren't even old enough to have seen his career unfold, they learned about it after the fact, and many tooke the bait on the myth perpetuated by HBO's "Legendary Nights" episode on Pryor/Arguello. I'd take a 140lbs Whitaker or a 140lbs Mayweather to run game on him all night long. I'm not old enough to have followed Pryor career..But I watch a lot of his fights and from what my uncle has told me about him he might be one of the best of all time..I'm also saying this cause he had a great fighting style..

Love Timmy B Pryor beats him.. Prime by prime? I think Timmy decisions him no problem,and you have to consider that Pryor´s legendary stamina will be forever questioned due to his scumbag trainer.

THIS. Most Pryor fans here in NSB aren't even old enough to have seen his career unfold, they learned about it after the fact, and many tooke the bait on the myth perpetuated by HBO's "Legendary Nights" episode on Pryor/Arguello. I'd take a 140lbs Whitaker or a 140lbs Mayweather to run game on him all night long. Slick guys would cause Pryor real problems, in a fight it is tough to pick against Pryor but guys who will try and defuse him he could easily be had. Luckily for him most of the top 140 pounders all time outside of Locche and Loi are more fighters than boxers, and who really knows Locche and Loi outside of a select few~

I've been watching pryor fights for the past couple of months, so its funny to me he's a topic today. Idk about best ever, but I will say this dude was an absolute ****in Beast!! If he was fighting today he would be 1 of the most entertaining and feared boxers right now!

He was very good but definitely not the best,Bradley schools him,Leonard smokes him,Robinson destroys him. Love Timmy B Pryor beats him..

Alright, Aaron Pyror is a stud a stone cold killer in the ring but if he was around today he would get hated on pretty bad. Cervantes good win for the belt, but dude was pretty much ancient at that point. His two best defenses came against a guy that started at 126 and really didn't prove much at 140. Not to mention the whole bottle thing. After that who is his next best win Akio Kameda? Who is mainly know for his fighting sons? 3 really good wins is all it takes to be the best ever at 140? THIS. Most Pryor fans here in NSB aren't even old enough to have seen his career unfold, they learned about it after the fact, and many tooke the bait on the myth perpetuated by HBO's "Legendary Nights" episode on Pryor/Arguello. I'd take a 140lbs Whitaker or a 140lbs Mayweather to run game on him all night long.

I'm not attacking you, dude. Just asking you to make a committed opinion, that's all. Thanks for your input. I know you weren't attacking me, I was merely explaining that. I would have responded much differently if I felt that.

He was very good but definitely not the best,Bradley schools him,Leonard smokes him,Robinson destroys him.

I read how some guy here wrote Kostya Tszyu had "only average" ring intelligence. LOL. typical boxingscene poster who only saw one fight of a fighter and then makes comments like that. he probably only saw Hatton vs Tszyu and realised Tszyu is not good at defending them elbows and lowblows of hatton- thats why he labelled Tszyu as a fighter with "average ring IQ" lol lmao how is tht even possible he had like 400 am fights