People like to hate on bob arum but........

Hate on Bob Arum all you want, I sure do, but don't pretend other promoters have any better intentions. nobodys intentions are as bad as arums. other promoters arent as oblivious to the state of boxing as arum is, not even close. im not saying they are gonna lose money for the sake of the sport, they are obviously all about money too. but no other promoter makes the outrageous decisions arum does or is remotely as damaging to boxing. guys like dibella, goosen and shaw put on great fights on a regular basis even if it means a risk to their business. they make the fights that need to be made. if any one of them were promoting pacquiao the mayweather fight would have happened years ago, in fact any promoter other than arum would have made that fight years ago and thats just one example. promoters are always in it for themselves, but arum is the worst one by far. there is no question about that.

no, bob arum looks after himself first and foremost. he isnt interested in what the fans want, all he is interested in is money.

boxing should be a sport not a buisiness. You don't see the nba matching the lakers and heat everyyear because it makes the most money. You don't see the nfl matching the patriots and cowboys every superbowl to make more money. A sport is the best competing with the best. Their is no excuse for the #1 & 2 WW IN the world not to fight each other for 3 years now and most of the reason is because of this greedy son of a biiiitch. You'll have to understand that Boxing is no longer a "sport" probably has not been since the slave owners used to match their fighting slaves against one another, representing their plantations. And even then, the reports are that large sums of money were won and lost on these events. Just as in the ancient days of gladiatiors. whose battles, often to the death, were purely for audience entertainment. In ancient Rome, the dictators and later emperors often could keep or lose their heads, literally, based on whether the performance, the entertainment, was pleasing enough for the citizens. Boxing is the modern form of gladiator entertainment. I particularly emphasize the word "entertainment" . Two opposing boxers are, to all intents and purposes, entertainers, combining their talents to provide the cash customers with their needed "fix", (very like a popular band putting on a show) and it's the promoter's job to make the programme potentially entertaining enough to draw them and their vital money through the doors into their seats. Without that, the boxers would be working on construction sites, and, in this case Arum, would be practicing law, probably by now a former Attorney-General, or a Supreme Court Justice. . Hotel owners provide food and accomodation, bus drivers drive buses, trainers train, managers manage, boxers fight, and promoters promote....... they all do this for money. If they were not earning at least a respectable amount of money, they wouldn't be doing it......unless they also had another source of income. In the old days, clergymen used to minister to their "flocks" even though they were poverty stricken in doing it. These were special cases, now long gone and forgotten. It's the promoter's almost sole duty, to protect his fighter's financial interests, and of course to make money for himself, without which he would not be able to continue to promote. his role is enormously complicated, and I suggest that you look up the role and duties of a boxing promoter on the internet. If you had done, you wouldn't be making the comments you have. Unless you have another, irrational reason, considering how the great majority of Arum bashers are almost illiterate and cretinous............

Hate on Bob Arum all you want, I sure do, but don't pretend other promoters have any better intentions.

arum is the real deal... that's the huge difference between a harvard law school graduate against a group of random internet keyboard bangers... Not only that, but he graduated Summa Cum Laude, a brilliant man. the whole rabble of keyboard bangers (good description) put together, along with Mayweather, Schaefer and Oscar, can't even move the scale a little. Arum is about 5 moves ahead.....normally. When he exerts himself, then the sky's the limit. Golden Balls frequently tries to duplicate Arum's successful business innovations, using opportunities that Arum bypassed.

i don't like Arum but I can admit his guys seem to get taken care of. It's not all Arum on this one but look at Pacquiao's image and look at Floyd's image. Pacquiao was on the cover of Time and has his own shirts and shoes being sold by Nike and he's all over the place. He kept Margarito around post-plaster and even made Margarito-Cotto II. He got Clottey the biggest fight out there against Pacquiao after he got robbed vs Cotto. Yuri Foreman got the best chance he was gonna get at the big-time against Cotto who just got his ass beat by Pacquiao. He got Bradley the biggest fight out there and even a "win" against Pacquiao. He kept Juanma away from Cabalerro and got him a rematch against Salido where all he had to do was survive, even though that didn't work out. Rios is still "undefeated" and in position to make big fights even though Abril kicked his ass. I think it's fair to say Top Rank is the best at protecting and bringing prospects along too. He's not good for boxing but he's not always bad for his guys.

it seems like he actually takes care of his fighters. I mean which other promoter could have given a guy like clottey a million dollar payday. Clottey was paid to make the fight an exhibition. Not actually try to win! Where is Clottey now? He was set up to lose! Personally I think Clottey could've outboxed Manny easily, but he didn't bother throwing punches for 90% of the bout. Silly boy... Gets not respect.

Since Floyd and Fifty cent formed a promotional company of their own, we'll soon see whether they'll do better with their boxers than Arum does to his. Clowns like to bash Arum for being unfair, we'll soon see comparisons. They'll probably do better at first, but when they begin to realize it's not that easy and they're not making enough money to sustain their company, it will get worse. Well, we'll see how that whiny Gamboa guy's career would turn up. 50 cent invested a lot of money just to keep him. Arum received a lot of flak when he left TR. Now Gamboa's deep in debt and practically sold his soul to Floyd and 50c. He better become a huge star soon, or else he'd realize he would have been better off staying with Arum.

Since Floyd and Fifty cent formed a promotional company of their own, we'll soon see whether they'll do better with their boxers than Arum does to his. Clowns like to bash Arum for being unfair, we'll soon see comparisons. They'll probably do better at first, but when they begin to realize it's not that easy and they're not making enough money to sustain their company, it will get worse.

arum is the real deal... that's the huge difference between a harvard law school graduate against a group of random internet keyboard bangers...

The guy has been ruining the sport for the last two years.He's the hater.

Wasnt Clotteys higher than normal purse also attributed to Jerry Jones matching his original purse thus doubling what Clottey was supposed to be Paid? Im pretty sure it was. It was a main event on a ppv that was fought in a stadium with 50k people in it. Jones was happymwith the turn out.

Arum is an ATG. He can shoulder roll questions, he got a nasty inside game. He can jab during conferences, he can hook in the news, he can feint and make you knock yourself out by planning ahead. And only he, the most interesting man in the world, could rewrite yesterday's history like telling the truth and telling a lie is one in the same. Easy work, easy money http://www.mp8.ph/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/bobarum3.jpg

clottey beat judah and had super close fights with margarito and cotto that could have gone either way. stop acting like he was just some bum who only got a shot because he had the hook up. clottey's ww resume sh-its on floyd mayweathers. fighting tough fighters over and over doesn't pay off obviously because you get no respect. you get more respect if you duck and cherry pick but keep winning. strange.

yup remove pacquaio from his rodster and clottey would never have seen anywhere close to 250k and that being in house, now do buisness with other promotional company and doubt he breaks 100k What you have to think is he is milking pacquaio for paydays and any fighters will take the risk against pacquaio for an all time high payday. Clottey made good money against cotto as well.

yeah but surely from a fighters point of view signing with arum is the smart thing to do. His fighters make good money

The funny thing about the people that talk so much shit about Arum are the same ones who care about their favorite boxers making money and doing "smart business decisions". Yet when Arum does something smart on business, they hate on it. It's pure envy and jealousy, either racial or religious. Besides, they're extremely ignorant and usually low mentality. They can't help that.

this seems like one of the most retarded things i've ever read on this forum.... what was he suppose to do, not pay him?? my boss pays me every friday too........ i thought it was cause im doing my job, not cause he wants to take care of me:pat: So clottey would have made a million dollars elesewhere lol

Arum only cares about one thing and that's his bottom line. If that's all he cares about Clotty would never have got remotely close to a million dollars. His fighters are almost always very well paid. He makes them into millionaires. Why shouldn't he be allowed to make money as well. If the promotion fails he's out of pocket, not the fighter......

I like that... taking care of them while he fucks them over