....one of the greatest Heavyweights of all time, if not THE greatest Heavyweight of all time. Period.
And you guys know its the truth.
You cant tell me there is anything Joe Louis has done that Wlad didnt do. They both ruled for a very very long time and their opponents were considered mediocre because of their dominance in the ring. How can anybody say Louis is the greatest ever and in the same breath say Wlad is "maybe top 15 or top 20".
Im not saying Wlad is the greatest ever, but if he was american, the american press would compare him to Joe Louis and Ali and Larry Holmes. Period.
And for all the youngsters on this forum who don't know anything about stuff which happened before 2010: after Wlad lost within one year to Brewster and Corrie Sanders, EVERYBODY said his career is over. Look what he done since then. The world press said Wlad is finished, he is done, his career is over. And look how he came back. Against the odds. That's comparable to all the won rematches of Muhammad Ali.
You really don't know much about American fight fans if you believe that. Look at the fighters that are popular here, they are either very flashy or they are very exciting, nothing that the Klitschkos are. Americans are probably some of the least biased fans in the world. We never carry or wave or flags and we don't care where you came from. Look how accepting we are of Pacquaio for example. The Klitschkos are just downright boring. We accept that they are the best in a god awful division but no one would give two sh1ts if they were Americans.
SOME Klitchko fans are simply projecting. The issue is that THEY love the Klitchkos because of their nationality, it doesn't matter how they fight as long as they win because that equals national pride. Some Fillipino Pacquiao fans are like that at heart, but Pacquiao happens to be very exciting by contrast .
TS is trollin
WLAD is just boring, his style doesnt excite anyone and he has mainly fought overweight flabby bums
Vitali is a far better boxer he is near the top 10 somewhere because he went toe to toe with an Old Lennox Lewis, also he is a little more exciting than his jab jab glass jaw brother.
True if Wlad had fought Lennox in 2000-2003, would no have been a great fight like Vitali-Lennox. People still talk about this one. Wlad is great but so cautious it's boring sometimes. Rewatch 1st round against Thompson! Why just not jump on him and destroy him??
....one of the greatest Heavyweights of all time, if not THE greatest Heavyweight of all time. Period.
And you guys know its the truth.
You cant tell me there is anything Joe Louis has done that Wlad didnt do. They both ruled for a very very long time and their opponents were considered mediocre because of their dominance in the ring. How can anybody say Louis is the greatest ever and in the same breath say Wlad is "maybe top 15 or top 20".
Im not saying Wlad is the greatest ever, but if he was american, the american press would compare him to Joe Louis and Ali and Larry Holmes. Period.
And for all the youngsters on this forum who don't know anything about stuff which happened before 2010: after Wlad lost within one year to Brewster and Corrie Sanders, EVERYBODY said his career is over. Look what he done since then. The world press said Wlad is finished, he is done, his career is over. And look how he came back. Against the odds. That's comparable to all the won rematches of Muhammad Ali.
he would be just like , holmes, etc great fighters that nobody cares about
for the bold wtf?
He'd be playing tight end for the Patriot's....
I keed...
Americans love the melting pot, son. Some of the greatest fighters of all time come from diverse backgrounds around fat yank land. Jewish, Italian, Irish, African, Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican.
No hate at all towards either Klitschko brother, on my behalf.
But I think it would be pretty cool if they fought each other......
LOL it's hilarious that you actually think I'm ducking someone. Us Americans & Brits have been throwing the white flag so long that we start resorting to hating the Klits. I've learned to appreciate them. People just can't stomach that they're great boxers. People like to follow where they dominate.
It's hilarious that you are afraid of someone over the internet....Why don't you give JAB a proper reply instead of bickering with me?
TS is trollin
WLAD is just boring, his style doesnt excite anyone and he has mainly fought overweight flabby bums
Vitali is a far better boxer he is near the top 10 somewhere because he went toe to toe with an Old Lennox Lewis, also he is a little more exciting than his jab jab glass jaw brother.
He wouldn't be considered any higher, and all the claims otherwise are just people trying to deflect attention from the terrible fighters Wlad is forced to fight.
I don't duck no one. Don't confuse me with your favorite boxer Floyd Mayweather.
My favorite boxer is Tommy Hearns, and even he thinks you are ducking the subject, as you now want to talk about Floyd...
I didn't read it. Remind me please. I've been working a lot recently so it's hard to keep track.
I don't think you were too busy, you were still posting in other threads, just ducking him.
....one of the greatest Heavyweights of all time, if not THE greatest Heavyweight of all time. Period.
And you guys know its the truth.
You cant tell me there is anything Joe Louis has done that Wlad didnt do. They both ruled for a very very long time and their opponents were considered mediocre because of their dominance in the ring. How can anybody say Louis is the greatest ever and in the same breath say Wlad is "maybe top 15 or top 20".
Im not saying Wlad is the greatest ever, but if he was american, the american press would compare him to Joe Louis and Ali and Larry Holmes. Period.
And for all the youngsters on this forum who don't know anything about stuff which happened before 2010: after Wlad lost within one year to Brewster and Corrie Sanders, EVERYBODY said his career is over. Look what he done since then. The world press said Wlad is finished, he is done, his career is over. And look how he came back. Against the odds. That's comparable to all the won rematches of Muhammad Ali.
He would be worshiped here in the states if that were true.
You keep bringing up race and color as a reason MOST people don't find the heavyweight division exciting. Where exactly is this information coming from? What proof do you have of this? I don't see anyone saying thats the reason they find it boring and unless you're able to psychoanalyze everyone you think that about (and over a computer no less) than you're full of crap.
The reason its seen as boring is because its like pulling teeth to get the best contenders to fight one another. When we do get that they're slow and out of shape more times than not. Its seen as boring because the two most dominant fighters do not seek and destroy in spite of having massive advantages in skill and more time than not, size.
Take a poll and ask what people prefer from their heavyweights, guys who are dominant but play it safe or guys who go balls to the wall. I promise you it would be lopsided in favor of the latter. I don't doubt there are some who don't like the Klits for their color, but the majority could care less and find the division boring for the reasons I named.
Gene Tunney was never accepted in his time because he came after Dempsey and was thought of as a thinking mans fighter, ie, boring. Holmes, same thing. Micheal Moorer because he wasn't the killer at heavyweight as he was at light heavyweight. People are drawn towards warriors, thats the bottom line. The whole race excuse is a fabrication with nothing to back it up made up by guys who cannot understand why people aren't as fascinated with certain fighters as they are.
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He would be worshiped here in the states if that were true.
Didn't JAB kill you in another thread and you never got back to him, it was on the same subject as this..
To the OP. Answer me this.
Why didn't Larry Holmes (an American) not get any respect while he was fighting? And his competition was significantly better than the bums that are passed off as fighters today. Your argument is wrong.