Martinez footwork and angles will be the difference, Chavez will not be able to see the punches coming. And I expect punches to have cumulative effect, if the knockout will come, it will be in last couple rounds.
huge difference between what Lee did and what Martinez may do
Remember martinez was considered a feather puncher before williams, he has stumbled upon more power but chavez is a bigger man than williams and martinez. I doubt he's ko'd
You must not have seen him fight before Williams then, because he wasn't a feather puncher then either. He hit Cintron so hard he swore it was a headbutt. He is a strong puncher with great timing. Williams by the way had never been even knocked down before he fought Martinez the first time. Williams had done nothing but walk through every guys punches he ever fought, including every Mexican's hero Chetto, and Martinez knocked him down in the first fight and turned out the lights in fight 2. If Chavez does what he does in every fight, walk straight in with no jab, he's going to get stopped.
Sergio is my fave current fighter. He has power, punches sharply and his angles gove opponents fits. Chavez jr has ZERO head movement. Now, I know its just sparring but when Vanes Martirosyan is blasting Chavez jr in every sparring session available on YouTube, what do you all think Sergio is going to do. Jr does have a world class chin though. Just like his dad
As long as jr doesn't stay on the outside. Inside and go to work. I think this will be a competitive fight and not some blow out.
Looking forward to this fight.
Chavez will hve his moments no doubt...he just lacks the experience against guys who can bang and adapt. He will do decent in the mid-rounds but when Sergio turns it on after the 8th...it's over.
When you focus to the body, where are you hands? Not blocking your face. Who is faster, Sergio or Chavez? We all know the answer to that...punches in bunches leads to pizza face.
As long as jr doesn't stay on the outside. Inside and go to work. I think this will be a competitive fight and not some blow out.
Looking forward to this fight.
Jr will take his punches and walk him down with good body shots.
Martinez will have an excuse after losing. He's getting up there in age.
Jr got this.
When you focus to the body, where are you hands? Not blocking your face. Who is faster, Sergio or Chavez? We all know the answer to that...punches in bunches leads to pizza face.
Chavez jr has a great chin, brutal body attack...but he moves in straight lines and has zero head movement. It's going to be fun to watch. Can Martinez chop this tree down or is jr going to just keep coming and overwhelm Sergio. I can't wait
Man...I just have this feeling that even Chavez jr himself really doubts his chances and that's why his dad is doing so much talking, trying to bait Martinez into a fight that would better suit his son.
Martinez isn't some green kid, the same kid that lost to Margarito...they really need to look past that fight and look at what Sergio does now. I think Chavez is going to assume he can boss Martinez but his face is gonna get straight rearranged quick with that mentality and I think we will see a scared Chavez on the stool between rounds with his corner trying to boost his confidence after only a few rounds.
People can say what they want but Chavez jr takes a few rounds to get going while Sergio starts fast...it's like giving away 2 laps to another runner while running the mile. He will be behind on the cards and already be weary of Sergio's power....that's only going to lead to careless behavior out of fear and doubt.....mistakes, costly mistakes.
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i think he walks right through them. martinez power gets overrated because of the williams stoppage.
Dzinziruk....never, ever down as a pro or am.....dropped 5 times by Martinez. Cintron...ko'd by Martinez (he hit him so hard, he swore it was a headbutt). KO'd Barker....never KO'd before, TKO'd Macklin....only KO'd once a few years back.
Dude doesn't end up beating guys to a pulp because he has no power man...he beat Pavlik like something from a Rocky movie....Chavez is going to be shocked.
Jr will buy into the hype an try to walk through Martinez' punches but that won't last too long. He will try and realize that Martinez has pop so he will ease off a little bit. He will then realize that his only chance is to jump in and attack and just try to minimize the punishment as he closes the gap...Sergio will sidestep and counter Chavez, tying him up once Chavez is close to him.
When the 7th or 8th round rolls around, Martinez will start to double up his punches and that's when Jr' face will start to look like a side of bee that Rocky has been pounding on.
TKO by round 10 or 11.....this is of course if Chavez tries to be smart at times. If he tries to walk Martinez down, he will get destroyed within 7 rounds...his dad or Roach will stop the fight.
sergio had problems in the beginning of his last 2 fights. If he lets chavez jr do anything like that he can forget about taking over in the last rounds.
I think people have put way too much stock into Jr's win vs Lee and zbik?? Lee had success boxing in angles but his ego caught up with him when he decided to go toe to toe thinking his power shots would take Jr out. He did the same thing against a journey Man (Brian Vera).
Martinez is smart and i doubt he will lose focus since this is the one big fight with a big payday he has been waiting for. Martinez does have a KO power. Everyone remembers Williams 2 but he did the same against a usually solid chin fighter in Cintron.. he Ko'd him until Kermit got up complaining that it was a head butt not a punch lol
I see Martinez giving Jr angles and sizing him up for the Left.. once they get close i know he will tie him up and wear Jr down for the late rounds where he will be able to tag Jr face over and over like pacquio does... TKO 9th round
Martinez has speed and decent power. He goes in and out and gives angles. Jr doesn't have a good defense is is not a one punch KO guy either. Ill pick skills over a pressure fighter any day.
Pavlik is a better fighter than Jr, has a better jab and more power. Thats the fight that Martinez has to do against Jr
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i think he walks right through them. martinez power gets overrated because of the williams stoppage.
Remember martinez was considered a feather puncher before williams, he has stumbled upon more power but chavez is a bigger man than williams and martinez. I doubt he's ko'd
Jr has faced how many top punchers in his career? But yet so many saying he will walk through Martinez punches. The same Martinez who has knocked out his last 4 opponents.
Way to much love given to a fighter who the only top fighter beaten is Lee. I could Pops calling it to rescue his boy.
I think people are giving Jr way too much credit and love. They are now severely under estimating Martinez and over estimating Jr.
The Paul Williams Martinez beat would have walked through Jr's entire resume. The Pavlik Martinez beat would have knocked out Jr's entire resume. Sergio is just a tier above Jr and it will show. The only way Jr is winning is by corrupt judges or a lucky hayemaker.
i disagree.. with the williams,he may have walked thru JRS resume. but dont see him walking thru JR. (the bold) you give Mart too much credit. Jr may end up just being a little too Youthful ,Fresh, Active and Big for the old man! could just be that simple! I dont see a robbery happening, and how can Jrs hayemakers be lucky? the dude can punch! and i do remember Pwill knocking him down, a Pwill wasnt a power puncher!
I hope not, because I don't see Sergio getting a decision if it goes the distance. There's just too much behind Chavez Jr for him to lose if it's close or even competitive: Bob Arum, The WBC and HBO. Mark my words, Martinez is going to have to knock him out to win and I find it hard to see that happening considering the size and weight difference between them. I think it will look like the Martinez-Pavlik fight but maybe a little closer and I see Chavez taking a close but highly controversial decision.
yea i can see it! i kinda got the feeling that he may retire the ole man! mart has been being tested more in his last few fights. just dont know if he can handle the Big Young Mans pressure these days. I dont care for either guy, but im pickin JR in this one. If he wins, i can see Jcc Jr Vs Pavlik in the near future. If JR gets too much better, the 168 class better watch out. Maybe not Ward, but Froch and downward.