Sergio Martinez : "I'm number 2 P4P behind Floyd, Pacquiao is not top 5"

ward dawson b-hop floyd martinez marquez dawson vitali moreno donaire lara chavez trout mikey and many more all beat him if they were the same size. The real meaning of pfp, not your little popularity contest. lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For Ring probably not...for Yahoo and ESPN it might...and for Cliff Rold's rankings on here I'm inclined to think it won't. My p4p rankings have floyd ward and martinez interchangeable as top 3...Manny and JMM interchangeable at 4/5...it does a lot for my personal list, but mine entirely revolves around "what have you done for me lately." Yeah, I hear what you are saying (figuratively speaking of course). I just can't agree with some people saying Martinez is fighting scrubs because these guys aren't scrubs. Any of Martinez' last 4 opponents are better than anybody on Chavez' resume but I'm sure there re a lot of people who somehow now have him in their personal top 10 p4p.

He fights whoever is willing to fight him. Don't bring up Pirog because he would have been more than happy to fight him but HBO said no way and dude isn't going over to Russia to fight him. No one will fight the guy and the dudes that he has been fighting aren't scrubs, they are very technical, well rounded boxers. Pac is fighting top ranked guys (no pun intended) too but his team is picking guys that Pac has substantial advantages over. Margs was bigger sure but he is a straight forward fighter who has little movement and is slow as dirt. Cotto is also an inside fighter who they made fight at a catchweight. Bradley was moving up in weight and isn't known as a power puncher, Mosley was way past his prime and has terrible balance. Sergio is fighting prime, mostly undefeated fighters that are all bigger than him, he continues this trend with Chavez jr. Oh there's a bunch of 168ers licking their chops, but I guess 3 div belts is too ambitious for this guy.

It's loads better, Pacs opposition in his 7th weight class. When is the last time he fought a guy that never held a title, much less 2 back to back? What's his last divisional opponent not ranked in top 10, like Barker? Why did the no 1 sww Cotto ask for a catchweight against post Pac Margarito, with one good eye? He fights whoever is willing to fight him. Don't bring up Pirog because he would have been more than happy to fight him but HBO said no way and dude isn't going over to Russia to fight him. No one will fight the guy and the dudes that he has been fighting aren't scrubs, they are very technical, well rounded boxers. Pac is fighting top ranked guys (no pun intended) too but his team is picking guys that Pac has substantial advantages over. Margs was bigger sure but he is a straight forward fighter who has little movement and is slow as dirt. Cotto is also an inside fighter who they made fight at a catchweight. Bradley was moving up in weight and isn't known as a power puncher, Mosley was way past his prime and has terrible balance. Sergio is fighting prime, mostly undefeated fighters that are all bigger than him, he continues this trend with Chavez jr.

Margarito was going UP in weight so throw that catchweight garbage out the door. If Miguel made him go DOWN in weight, then thats a different story. Are you saying Margarito requested the CW? It's common knowledge, the champ requested to defend his belt at 150 against a divisional scrub, and settled for 153 lmao. Do you know of any precedent for this? Help me out

I agree but if he runs through Chavez does that do anything for his p4p status?For Ring probably not...for Yahoo and ESPN it might...and for Cliff Rold's rankings on here I'm inclined to think it won't. My p4p rankings have floyd ward and martinez interchangeable as top 3...Manny and JMM interchangeable at 4/5...it does a lot for my personal list, but mine entirely revolves around "what have you done for me lately."

It's loads better, Pacs opposition in his 7th weight class. When is the last time he fought a guy that never held a title, much less 2 back to back? What's his last divisional opponent not ranked in top 10, like Barker? Why did the no 1 sww Cotto ask for a catchweight against post Pac Margarito, with one good eye? Margarito was going UP in weight so throw that catchweight garbage out the door. If Miguel made him go DOWN in weight, then thats a different story.

Are you serious? And Mannys recent fight history is superior to Martinez's? Manny's last 5 fights: 3 which Manny shouldn't even fought in the first place. Clottey after he lost to Miguel, Margarita lol?, Shane who couldn't even beat Mora? JMM who beat Manny, and Bradley. Yea, Manny's recent fight history is awesome. It's loads better, Pacs opposition in his 7th weight class. When is the last time he fought a guy that never held a title, much less 2 back to back? What's his last divisional opponent not ranked in top 10, like Barker? Why did the no 1 sww Cotto ask for a catchweight against post Pac Margarito, with one good eye?

Are you serious? And Mannys recent fight history is superior to Martinez's? Manny's last 5 fights: 3 which Manny shouldn't even fought in the first place. Clottey after he lost to Miguel, Margarita lol?, Shane who couldn't even beat Mora? JMM who beat Manny, and Bradley. Yea, Manny's recent fight history is awesome. I mean just look at the facts.... Yeah, you're right Martinez' last 4 fights: 4-0....... 3 KO's, 1 TKO Combined opponent record coming into the fights: 127-4-0 Your case just got thrashed! :owned2:

Barring controversy, it is a great win for either fighter imo. I agree but if he runs through Chavez does that do anything for his p4p status?

You can't be number 2 with Martinez's recent fight history. Are you serious? And Mannys recent fight history is superior to Martinez's? Manny's last 5 fights: 3 which Manny shouldn't even fought in the first place. Clottey after he lost to Miguel, Margarita lol?, Shane who couldn't even beat Mora? JMM who beat Manny, and Bradley. Yea, Manny's recent fight history is awesome.

So what if Martinez destroys Chavez and KO's him in let's say 4 rounds? Does he get any respect then? I mean people talking about the fact that Pac is beating bigger guys and Sergio started at 147 and Chavez will weigh almost 180 and have a 3 inch height advantage on him.Barring controversy, it is a great win for either fighter imo.

So what if Martinez destroys Chavez and KO's him in let's say 4 rounds? Does he get any respect then? I mean people talking about the fact that Pac is beating bigger guys and Sergio started at 147 and Chavez will weigh almost 180 and have a 3 inch height advantage on him.

Sergio only says Pac is no5, as he is scared if he beats Floyd, people will see him as being ahead of Floyd, but behind Pac and still not no1. So Sergio is getting rid of the competition which he knows is Pac. Mind games, thats all it is.I don't know what better demonstrates your laughable stupidity...that you actually believe the things you write, or that you've been watching boxing for about as many years as your join date and still say the things you do. There is a reason no major sports outlets have Pacquiao ranked #1 anymore.

Wlad is #2 P4P no doubt. Put the drugs down Medved.

Wlad is #2 P4P no doubt.

Starting from Clottey, Paq's opponents have all been fighting to survive, with the exception of Margarito. Clottey covered himself up with his gloves the entire fight. The rest either ran or backpedaled. Paq is an entertainer. And that is the key to understanding Paq's fights. If he stands still and plays counterpuncher, nobody can beat him. But nothing will happen if he does. And he panics when the crowd starts booing and heckling. He had to press the action even when he knows he's already miles ahead on points. He finally got sick of having to be the sole entertainer. He opted to play defense in the Bradly fight and Paq was like an indestructible brick wall that's impossible to crack. Unfortunately, American Idol judges decided the outcome of the fight. Recall fights like Chaves and Whittaker. Pernell backpedaled in the entire fight. The difference between Chaves Sr, in this fight, and Paq is that Paq can stand his ground, pushed on the ropes and still come out victorious. Chaves doing the same would have been disastrous so his only choice to win/survive was to keep the pressure going. There's no other way. In other words, Paq is only doing it because of the crowd. That's why I want to see the Marques 4 happen. I can see Paq not worrying about the audience and will do the same thing he did in the Bradly fight. That is, stand his ground and keep motioning Marques to come in and fight. If the Bradly rematch happens, I'm not sure if Paq will do the same thing. Real judges would score the fight, anyway. Paq wins again either by KO or decision.

Sergio only says Pac is no5, as he is scared if he beats Floyd, people will see him as being ahead of Floyd, but behind Pac and still not no1. So Sergio is getting rid of the competition which he knows is Pac. Mind games, thats all it is.

WOW now you are just trying to keep pac relevant please stop Pac is out of the top 3 P4P just deal with it Hughie dont get your panties in a bunch Chuckguy, do everyone a favour and stop making up your own rules as to what makes a person p4p. If Pac was Sergios size, hed wipe the floor with him, end of discussion. As would JMM and as for Bradley, that is a close one. If Bradley was Sergios size that would be interesting.

Paqciao fought giants small guys like him would have never have the balls of fighting. Clottey, Margarito, Mosley. He dominated them all. Size difference in the Marg fight was so huge that no one could have imagine Bradley, Berto, Ortiz, Marquez surviving Marg's pressure. During the time Paq picked these fights all these clowns' choice was Berto. Some clowns even suggested Bradley. Well, you've seen them fight. Berto was exposed as a mere hypejob. Every clown in this site expected Bradley to massacre the overrated Paq. After just a few rounds, Bradley was already on survival mode. It's embarrassing. What these Paq hating clowns can't seem to accept is Paq is just as good when he's playing defense. His opponents are terrified of coming forward. (Well, they're the challengers. They're supposed to break the impasse and attempt to take the belt away from champ Paq.)