Chavez-Martinez thoughts and prediction. (Mismatch)

When I say mismatch, I mean that more so in terms of styles and how they match up. Martinez has problems when his opponents utilize movement, which both Macklin and Barker used a lot of. Which is why Martinez looked somewhat bad early on, but as soon as he adjusted and found his range and openings, both those fights were over in minutes. Chavez relies on hooks upstairs and downstairs, you can guarantee he's not going to try an utilize movement like Macklin and Barker did. He's going to try to get inside on Sergio all night and I don't see it happening. Sergio gets touched up every now and then to the head, but you don't very often see him get tagged with hard clean punches to the head, and RARELY do you see him hit to the body. Martinez, because he leans over in an unorthodox manner, is EXTREMELY hard to hit to the body, and very hard to get as close to him as Chavez will need to. Chavez has horrible defense. He takes hard clean shots from C level competition like Vanda (I know he's improved) but people seem to forget how badly he struggled, and how easy he was to hit, with the likes of Vanda and other low level competition. Martinez will have a field day with Chavez. And, Chavez has shown a solid chin against guys who don't hit as hard and guys who are nowhere near as fast as Sergio. People also seem to forget that Chavez was badly stunned by Duddy in their fight. Like I said, unless Chavez makes these vast improvements defensively and fixes his other technical flaws, he's going to get dominated and sparked out. I'll eat my words if he proves me wrong as well.

There has been plenty of fights where the 1 dimensional fighter beats the boxer. This match is a toss up that can go either way but both fighters have to put a performance of a lifetime.

this is B.Hop vs Tito imo...Sergio being B.Hop, the slicker more versatile fighter...Jr, being Tito...the big punching bull....Jr is too 1D for a slickster with pop like Sergio.....IMO, Sergio is gonna move when he must, but I expect him to sitdown on his power shots when he lets them go....he will hurt Jr., bust him up and at some point papa Chavez will rescue his son...like papa Trinidad did against B.Hop...same sh1t different toilet....Sergio schools him, beats the breaks off him and then gets the family valued stoppage late :boxing: Baaaaaad example bro. B-Hop was bigger than Tito & Tito had already been exposed at 147.:angel:

this is B.Hop vs Tito imo...Sergio being B.Hop, the slicker more versatile fighter...Jr, being Tito...the big punching bull....Jr is too 1D for a slickster with pop like Sergio.....IMO, Sergio is gonna move when he must, but I expect him to sitdown on his power shots when he lets them go....he will hurt Jr., bust him up and at some point papa Chavez will rescue his son...like papa Trinidad did against B.Hop...same sh1t different toilet....Sergio schools him, beats the breaks off him and then gets the family valued stoppage late :boxing:

I think Martinez is gonna have the performance of his career and may make Chavez Jr look pretty ordinary. Remember, Andy Lee was able to hit him very frequently, now you got a guy who's a lot more unorthodox, really good speed for his size, good power, and good movement in the ring. If you look back at the guys Chavez has fought I can't find anyone who comes close to mirroring Martinez as where at least in the case for Martinez he's fought guys naturally bigger than him, but it's never deterred him from fighting them and being successful. I hope for a really good fight, but I think Martinez in the end is gonna whip his ass.

Mismatch? I don't think so. Martinez will probably win but Chavez Jr is not exactly a bum. Chavez Jr is better than Macklin and Barker. I see a competitive fight with Martinez winning a comfortable decision.

i think mismatch is a bit harsh. iv been wanting to see this fight since the andy lee win and im just glad its on now instead of having to wait 2-3 years like most fights i want to see.

The world hasn't seen a great pressure fighter since chavez sr. and Junior brought out some of that nostalgia towards the end of the andy lee fight. If chavez jr. comes in with that kind of pressure mentality and manages to retain it thoughout the whole fight, i see it UD for chavez and thats depending on how well martinez can take a punch and how well Martinez manages to hold on.

It's all about Chavez's chin and stamina, and whether those attributes are good enough to handle Sergio. If he can eat Sergio's punches, he will wear him out. Sergio's little lapses he takes during fights will make this fight hard. Sergio isn't an elusive fighter, I've never seen him in a fight where he was hard to hit. Even guys that he dominated touch him up quite a bit. I'm not wondering at all about whether Chavez can hit him, he will. I think Sergio wins and wins clearly, but it will be hard. By the end of the fight Chavez may look like the fresher fighter while Sergio is glad it is over.

1st off, I'm a fan of both. Chavez has grown on me this last year. But to say the fight is a mismatch is a little overboard right now. There are 2 glaring advantages that Jr has in this fight for sure. It's age & size. Jr is evolving into the premier pressure fighter in boxing. A complete pressure fighter with a vicious body attack. The fight will depend on how well Martinez will be able to use his legs & how long. Being pressured by someone that pays attention to the body is dangerous. I still slightly favor Martinez because of his overall better boxing IQ & reflexes, but it isn't by much 60/40 Martinez, hell it may be tipped come fight week. If Martinez doesn't hurt Chavez early he'll be in for a long long night.

I think Chavez can survive the early rounds and come on strong during the late rounds to get the win.

Orthodox body punchers (Chavez) have a huge challenge with unorthodox guys with good movement. Martinez tends to have the crowd-pleasing, RJJ style of front-hand-down approach to fights when he gets comfortable. That'll present a lot of problems for Jr. to land his big shots. Plus, to land a big punch, he'll have to turn INTO a stronger, faster puncher's power hand. It wont be a good day for Chavez Jr.

And, is nowhere close to as fast as Martinez with his footwork. I literally, just do not see how Chavez is going to be able to find Martinez, he's just going to be plodding forward looking to get inside and get his body punches off on a very elusive target (who's even more elusive to the body), meanwhile getting peppered with fast, clean and hard combinations. It might not seem as bad right now, in terms of the foot and hand speed gap, but wait until fight night, mark my words, it's going to be staggering. I honestly can't think of a better style match up for Martinez at the moment. . I concur. Martinez is trained EXTRA hard for this fight. It's PAYDAY to a even bigger PAYDAY. Chavez has no defense, likes to block punches with his head and unable to fight off the backfoot. I think he will last longer than six round due to his youth, size and good chin (maybe pride carrying that name). JCCJ's constant draining of weight and blowing up is gonna hurt him after the 9th rd. He is gonna have to chase Martinez ALL night. Honestly, I think JCCJ might vacate his title or is this just a big payoff $$ after the bubble?

Jr is no way near Martinez's level and I'm always amazed at how his fans don't see that..it's like comparing day and night.

Chavez Jr fans are in for a rude awakening. The whole world is going to see the difference between a bog standard brawler and an elite boxer-puncher with fast feet, superb lateral movement, handspeed, timing and K.O power in both hands. Sergio is going to beat the sh1t out of this kid and I can not wait because his fanbase are the most annoying trolls I've ever witnessed. I don't care what anyone says, Jr is going night-night.

Well. I very rarely use this word, unless I feel it's necessary. This fight, IMO, is a mismatch. I like Chavez Jr. I really do. I think he's improved too, over the years. BUT, size advantage or no, size advantage, this is a mismatch, IMO. Based on styles, Chavez is chronically outgunned IMO. Yes, he's strong, is a good body puncher, and takes a decent shot. But, the foot and hand speed advantage Martinez has, is astronomical. Martinez is also very awkward with his herky jerky lateral movement and angles, and his constant movement. Chavez is a solid fighter, he really is. But he is not going to be able to plow forward onto Sergio, like he's been able to against guys like Lee and Rubio. Yes, Lee was a southpaw who boxed. But, Lee is a much stiffer, straight up and down "Kronk" style of fighter, who doesn't use the same kind of movement and angles Martinez utilizes. And, is nowhere close to as fast as Martinez with his footwork. I literally, just do not see how Chavez is going to be able to find Martinez, he's just going to be plodding forward looking to get inside and get his body punches off on a very elusive target (who's even more elusive to the body), meanwhile getting peppered with fast, clean and hard combinations. It might not seem as bad right now, in terms of the foot and hand speed gap, but wait until fight night, mark my words, it's going to be staggering. I honestly can't think of a better style match up for Martinez at the moment. I'm not trying to sound like I'm bashing Chavez, because I'm not. I just can't think of a worse style match up for him, then Martinez. I think this whole "Great fight" thing, is an optical illusion. Now, I could be wrong, we'll find out. I'll accept that I'm wrong if it turns out that way. But, as of right now from what I'm seeing. I don't see it going past 6 or 7 rounds. 8 or 9 rounds maximum. BUT, to make an exact prediciton, I see MArtinez brutally stopping Chavez in about the 4th round. Yup, you heard right. Also, I'm not a fan of either really, so this is a neutral standpoint from me. Just my two cents on this guys. Hes a roach fighter so theyll probably have a 12x12 ring to give Jr an advantage but Im with you. Martinez by tko before the 10th.