Martinez/Ward P4P

IMO Ward is currently the best pfp fighter in the world, point blank period.

This one is really close for me. I think Martinez has the single best win of the 2 in the stoppage of PW, but I think Ward's destruction of Froch and Kessler were unreal impressive, especially since both have gone on to win big fights since those losses. If Ward beats Dawson in impressive fashion he'll be ahead of him, and in my opinion will be the real P4P #1 fighter in the world.

:smashfrea <-WARD MARTINEZ

He struggled against two guys he stopped? Lol when is the last great stoppage Ward scored? Not that all l care about are KOs, just saying. You can't be serious asking me that, also I gave Martinez a lot of credit for closing the show in those fights but had he not done that and gone the full 12 he would have gotten ripped in my opinion, or many would have questioned his P4P status. Ward hasn't scored any stoppages in a while but again he's been extremely dominant, he rarely ever loses a round.

Ward is better

Martinez has also fought a variety of styles, although Ward has great victories they all share a similar style. His fight with Chad is going to answe a lot of questions IMO.

One could also say that Ward has dominated every opponent they put in front of him, while Martinez has underperformed against opponents he was expected to shine against, Barker and Macklin. Not saying he looked bad, but many expected him to look better. I have Ward ranked higher, but it's close. He struggled against two guys he stopped? Lol when is the last great stoppage Ward scored? Not that all l care about are KOs, just saying.

Martinez moved up in weight for his best wins against bigger men. Ward beats good fighters his own size It's a simple question One could also say that Ward has dominated every opponent they put in front of him, while Martinez has underperformed against opponents he was expected to shine against, Barker and Macklin. Not saying he looked bad, but many expected him to look better. I have Ward ranked higher, but it's close.

I have Ward higher because of the higher level of competition.

Ward beat more names than Martinez, but he didn't beat them the way Martinez did. Martinez stopped them or seriously marked them up. Ward boxed them silly, but they weren't in any danger of getting stopped. Just two different styles and what appeals to you. Ward seems to be the more complete guy though and in time will firmly become P4P #1 hopefully. Martinez probably still has a few more big wins in him, but he's closer to the end.

Whats your opinion on who is the better P4P fighter? I've got Ward better, but how would you go about ranking these 2 against eachother? Also, just want to laugh at the article which stated "Middleweight contender Sergio Martinez" heh. I think Ward has better resume. But the thing is Ward hasn't moved up in weigh yet....so I dunno. I wanna see his ability on a higher weight division.

P4P Martinez higher than Ward, Martinez fights are always exciting and almost always end in ko Willams, Pavlik, Dzinziruk that's helluva run. I respect Ward but his fights always in Oakland with 2 of the judges from Cali and his style is almost unwatchable although he is getting better lately. Kessler, Green and Bika fights were horrible all that hugging and hitting..

Personaly Ward is higher on my p4p list than Martinez. I've never understood how Martinez did to climb the ranking so fast. Ward's best wins are Froch, Kessler, Abraham and Bika Martinez best wins are an alcoholic Pavlik and Williams, and he needed two times to beat Williams, never understood how people put him at the #3 spot so fast.