Donaire is clearly winning the fight and this is proof that compubox

BUT the "pacctards" say that's how he won against Marquez 3? I'm confused... Of course u're confused, this is a thread about donaire, the phuck u talkin about Marquez 3.... Idiot!

i feel donaire won comfortably.... but i think nonito gave up a lot of rounds. he let off the gas and let mathebula pile up the points.... i think nonito was a bit TOO hungry for the big shot. i wanted more jabs, although he said mathebula took his jab away. hmmmm

I didn't see the compubox stats. I didn't score one single round for Mathebula. Donaire's superior defensive movement was on display. Most of the time Mathebula would hit nothing but air when throwing his combinations. I guess the sheep on here would rather pay attention to compubox as opposed to what actually happened. Mathebula made it somewhat competitive before he was floored but even up until that point he was missing most of his punches and getting solid counters from Donaire. From there Mathebula is in survival mode lands nothing of note and gets a beatdown handed to him while he retreats the rest of the evening. I guess if you feel bad for Mathebula traveling from South Africa to get completely schooled you could give him a sympathy round but dude was completely out of his league. I also thought Donaire won pretty much every round. I gave Mathebula 2 rounds, but that was it. I dont know which fight the commentators were seeing but to me Mathebula didnt do ANYTHING meaningful in the whole fight.

Compubox just needs more guys judging which punches land, and which ones don't. Let's make it easier. Do away with "Compubox." It's worse than unreliable. Aside from providing statistics that might or might not be vaguely interesting to some folks, it provides no practical advantage. Here's an example. Fighter "a" lands 50 blows in round 1, while fighter "b" lands 40. In the following round, fighter "b" outlands fighter "a" 30-25. Fighter "a" has now landed more punches (75) than fighter "b" (70). Yet, all things being equal (effectiveness of punches, ring generalship, etc.), the fight is now dead-even. "Compubox" is a misleading gimmick. We're better off without it.

Mathebula probably did land more. Donaire was more effective, and clearly won the fight. I don't see the problem... This pretty much says it all. Judging is both an art and a science. There are recognized boxing criteria (the science), but there's the subtle application of the criteria (the art). The sheer number of punches landed, for example, must be taken into consideration, but the perceived effectiveness of a punch must be factored into the judging. Mathebula was landing more punches, but they had nothing behind them. It was as if Jeff were shadowboxing; his fists were rarely clenched when he landed. On the other hand, Donaire landed powerful shots to both the head and body (especially the head) throughout the fight. Nonito pressed the action the whole way through ("effective aggression"). Regardless of what anyone thinks of the scorecards, Donaire clearly won. There's no disputing that, in my opinion.

Compubox just needs more guys judging which punches land, and which ones don't.

Mathebula probably did land more. Donaire was more effective, and clearly won the fight. I don't see the problem...

Who ever did the compubox stats for this fight was blind!

Mathebula landed and missed a lot of punches. Donaire landed, and missed alot also. Donaire hurt Mathebula like 3 times. Mathebula never hurt. Donaires punches had more of an impact, and that fact is why Donaire clearly won. Nobody thought Mathebula won....

I really can't understand how we aren't all in agreement that Mathebula out-landed Donaire by a lot. I mean, this isn't even like an opinion or something one can make up. It was on television for everyone to see. Also, boxing is not a strength contest. I don't agree that Mathebula can put in all that work blocking most of Donaire's punches while consistently landing his own jab and combinations only to have people say that Donaire gets the round for landing 2-3 punches because he hits harder. I had the fight about even but Donaire had that 10-8 round. I think it was close enough that at least one judge could have had it for Mathebula or even. I am shocked that there are people who don't think Mathebula won a round. It has to be all the hype with Donaire expected to be a pound-for-pound fighter and far superior to his opponents. People only see what they feel like they are supposed to see or something, I don't know but this definitely wasn't a dominating performance.You had the fight about even, lmfao.

I really can't understand how we aren't all in agreement that Mathebula out-landed Donaire by a lot. I mean, this isn't even like an opinion or something one can make up. It was on television for everyone to see. Also, boxing is not a strength contest. I don't agree that Mathebula can put in all that work blocking most of Donaire's punches while consistently landing his own jab and combinations only to have people say that Donaire gets the round for landing 2-3 punches because he hits harder. I had the fight about even but Donaire had that 10-8 round. I think it was close enough that at least one judge could have had it for Mathebula or even. I am shocked that there are people who don't think Mathebula won a round. It has to be all the hype with Donaire expected to be a pound-for-pound fighter and far superior to his opponents. People only see what they feel like they are supposed to see or something, I don't know but this definitely wasn't a dominating performance. Wondering the same thing. Mathebula may have been landing pitty pat shots, but they were still landing and that's all that CompuBox is supposed to show.

I really can't understand how we aren't all in agreement that Mathebula out-landed Donaire by a lot. I mean, this isn't even like an opinion or something one can make up. It was on television for everyone to see. Also, boxing is not a strength contest. I don't agree that Mathebula can put in all that work blocking most of Donaire's punches while consistently landing his own jab and combinations only to have people say that Donaire gets the round for landing 2-3 punches because he hits harder. I had the fight about even but Donaire had that 10-8 round. I think it was close enough that at least one judge could have had it for Mathebula or even. I am shocked that there are people who don't think Mathebula won a round. It has to be all the hype with Donaire expected to be a pound-for-pound fighter and far superior to his opponents. People only see what they feel like they are supposed to see or something, I don't know but this definitely wasn't a dominating performance.

Compubox has to match my eyes. I did not see Mathebula landing more punches or landing the cleaner punches.

compubox is complete JUNK!!!! I WAS LAUGHING AT THOSE NUMBERS ALL LAST NIGHT..... I watched donaire land a massive left hook to the body when compubox was on the screen doing live counting, and THEY DIDN'T EVEN SCORE IT, but mathebula lands on donaire elbows and that gets scored......!?!?! compubox was scoring shots for mathebula when he was hitting donaire on the BACK OF THE HEAD, GLOVES, AND, ARMS...... mathebula fought a helluva a fight but his connecting numbers were inflated than a motherfvcker. compubox loses more and more credibility damn near every broadcast now.\ it also fvcks up the announcing too, because they rely on it too much, even though they see differently with their eyes!!! even kellerman was saying, and I know what he meant, but even he said he didn't see mathebula land "X" amount of punches!?!?! why!?!? because donaire was drilling and tagging old boy with REAL POWER SHOTS, moving the guy around each time he was hitting him, and yet, compubox will score a jab that was picked off, or a right hand that got caught and trapped......... I've been calling out the inaccuracies of compubox for a long time and totally have been a STRICT CRITIC of their work since the hopkins calzaghe fight..... if you score punches in scoring areas like you're supposed to, calzaghe didn't land **** that fight........ same with many other fights covered by compubox go, it needs to be stopped or seriously gut checked! the only thing that I trust by compubox is how many total punches were thrown, and I barely trust that. all the other crap they do is TOO easily compromised!!! just a guy pushing a button. they are not the arbiter of who is winning a fight, that is for sure.

Mathebula clearly won the fight. What all of a sudden jabs and combination punches don't count. Donaires face was showing signs of those jabs athe end. Rewatch the fight. Most of donaires one punch at A time output were blocked. I'm sure glad you're not a referee.

Mathebula clearly out-landed Donaire, so I really don't know what you guys are talking about. The same thing happened over and over again in which Donaire would load up on his shot sometimes miss sometimes land but what was consistent was Mathebula would landing 3-4 shots after all those wide power punches Donaire was throwing. The thing is Compubox doesn't measure power and I feel one hard shot negates 3-4 pitty-pat shots.....which is why I felt Donaire won the rounds he did, even when being out-landed.

Yeah, right up until Donaires power prevails. Mathebula clearly won the fight. What all of a sudden jabs and combination punches don't count. Donaires face was showing signs of those jabs athe end. Rewatch the fight. Most of donaires one punch at A time output were blocked.

Do you think the fights would be competitive? Yeah, right up until Donaires power prevails.

he did landed more but power punches was in favor of donaire lets not forget the knock out, compubox was accurate

Mares, Rigondeaux, who ever...none of those guys can beat Donaire. None of them. Do you think the fights would be competitive?