Could Ortiz have continued?

If he was Mayweather, Hopkins, Whitaker, Ward, Abraham, Winky, sure. But with his defense? Hell f-cking no. He would have finished the fight with no jaw. You can't miss Orti'z face. Opponents average 32-34% landed punches on him. That's way too much for a guy with a broken jaw. If he had defense like the guys I mentioned, then yes. But he has 0 defense.

That's where I see the difference. There's fighters out there that not only continue fighting with a broken jaw, but continue fighting to simply lose a decision. Ortiz was winning the fight on my card and most likely the judges card and had only 3 rounds to go and instead he called it a day. I understand his decision, but I guess that's just where some fighters vary. Put some other fighters in that exact same position and they would have continued. FYI, The 3 judges had it at the time of stoppage (as per boxrec): Ortiz: 86-85 Ortiz: 87-84 Ortiz: 88-83

Look now at the Hollywood act of Ortiz as he raise up from his stool and start to walk up as he wants to continue fighting and gently pushes his corner man to put in the mouth piece again... The problem is not the Jaw but the heart and his mental issues. Why putting up a fake Hollywood act if he had a so called justified injury? I believed he was trying to walk to Lopez to congratulate him like we have seen fighters do when they are unable to continue in a fight. Oscar vs Pac for example. Of course he could have continued. He didn't have a broken back or anything where he was unable to continue. He could have continued but he chose not to. Yes, he could'v continued, and there's absolutely no debating otherwise. A broken jaw is a very common injury in boxing, yes it's painful as hell, but fighters are expected to fight through physical and mental anguish and they do so all the time. Using the broken jaw as an example, Abraham finished his fight with Miranda with a broken jaw, Ali finished his with Norton, Jose Diaz finished his with Miguel Munguia, Pernell Whitaker finished his fight with Felix Trinidad, Ray Mercer finished his fight with Bert Cooper, Tommy Morrison finished his fight with Joe Hipp, Sonny Liston finished his fight with Marty Marshall, etc, etc, etc.... The list of fighters who've fought through injury (whether it's broken jaws, sprained ankles, torn muslces, etc...) is as long and storied as the history of the sport itself, and all of you morons acting like a broken jaw is a life threatening injury and that Ortiz was in grave danger in there are just making it easier for the kid to make excuses for quitting on us.....again. I dont know if there are different types of breaks with a jaw. My thoughts were whether if he couldnt close his mouth, he wouldnt have been able to have his gum shield put back in, therefore couldnt have continued. But i guess thats not the reason why he quit. He quit because it hurt to move and he didnt want to take anymore.

For me it was more the way he did it. If that was me and I really felt I couldn't go on, I would at least try and save face and explicitly tell my trainer he needed to stop it. He just shamelessly doesn't give a *****. Ortiz, defying his corner, called the ref over and was like stop the fight my jaws broken. Is he nuts, is he not aware of his own reputation? Danny Garcia didn't wanna let Ortiz talk with Jim Gray afterwords cause he knew Ortiz was likely to say something that made him look stupid again i.e Maidana fight.

needed Tarver on the Showtime telecast last night so he could blow his own horn...Tarver got his jaw broke and kept fighting till the end...he took a knee but he didn't quit...lost the decision but he didn't quit!!! That's where I see the difference. There's fighters out there that not only continue fighting with a broken jaw, but continue fighting to simply lose a decision. Ortiz was winning the fight on my card and most likely the judges card and had only 3 rounds to go and instead he called it a day. I understand his decision, but I guess that's just where some fighters vary. Put some other fighters in that exact same position and they would have continued.

His own choice... The fact is this is the 3rd fight he has chosen to quite because of his frustration or injury. To most fighters; what happens when you get hurt in the ring and what you do from there is what defines you! It's unfortunate for him, that he will be known for quitting in every lose he has had... So far!

needed Tarver on the Showtime telecast last night so he could blow his own horn...Tarver got his jaw broke and kept fighting till the end...he took a knee but he didn't quit...lost the decision but he didn't quit!!!

Yes, he could'v continued, and there's absolutely no debating otherwise. A broken jaw is a very common injury in boxing, yes it's painful as hell, but fighters are expected to fight through physical and mental anguish and they do so all the time. Using the broken jaw as an example, Abraham finished his fight with Miranda with a broken jaw, Ali finished his with Norton, Jose Diaz finished his with Miguel Munguia, Pernell Whitaker finished his fight with Felix Trinidad, Ray Mercer finished his fight with Bert Cooper, Tommy Morrison finished his fight with Joe Hipp, Sonny Liston finished his fight with Marty Marshall, etc, etc, etc.... The list of fighters who've fought through injury (whether it's broken jaws, sprained ankles, torn muslces, etc...) is as long and storied as the history of the sport itself, and all of you morons acting like a broken jaw is a life threatening injury and that Ortiz was in grave danger in there are just making it easier for the kid to make excuses for quitting on us.....again.

Victor Ortiz in a nutshell: He does not have the intestinal fortitude to persevere through the tough situations necessary to succeed in the higher levels of the sport. He should consider himself lucky. With his mental approach, Canelo would destroy him. I'm not being cruel. I know a broken jaw is no minor injury. But this is boxing. The sport requires coping with pain and other physical hardships. Timothy Bradley finished his fight with Manny Pacquiao with a fractured foot. In addition, this is a consistent issue with Ortiz. When he's in tough fights, he fouls or quits. In this fight, he did both. Earlier in the fight, when Lopez was more than competitive, Ortiz blatantly punched him in the back of the head.

Of course he could have continued. He didn't have a broken back or anything where he was unable to continue. He could have continued but he chose not to.

the truth of the matter is , Ortiz was fighting very cautions the last 3-4 rds because he was tagged frequently. it seems to me that he was looking for a way out.HBO made us listen to the conversation with the referee in between the last Rd's: Referee: What is the problem? Ortiz: I got a broken jaw. Referee: So you want to stop the fight? Ortiz: Well, I got a broken jaw, yes. Referee: (waving his hands over Ortiz) It's over !!! Look now at the Hollywood act of Ortiz as he raise up from his stool and start to walk up as he wants to continue fighting and gently pushes his corner man to put in the mouth piece again... The problem is not the Jaw but the heart and his mental issues. Why putting up a fake Hollywood act if he had a so called justified injury? Answer: Ortiz is insecure and he himself knew that the injury was not severe in nature and he could have continued if he only wanted but he didn't like the way his opponent was punching back all the time

i don't blame him at all for stopping the fight, but god dammit victor is such a damn disappointment whenever it's time for him to shine except for the berto fight he ****s it up .

Only he knows..... He knew what was at stake..... He felt he couldn't ^^^yup......

I voted no because different people have different tolerances for pain. I'm just looking forward to the rematch. That was one helluva fight.

I didnt score the fight but I thought it was dead even. Lopez was landing tons of hard shots on Ortiz' chin the whole fight. I dont know how I would have scored it but just from watching it, it was totally even.

Tough call. If he could have kept his mouth closed and the mouth piece in, then yeah sure. I thought he was just punking out again last night but in the dressing room, you could see that he was just drooling out massive blood and he couldn't talk. Had he been able to spit out the blood and show some stability in the jaw, I'd question his heart again but he really looked messed up. Looked like the jawbone pierced the inner cheek via compound fracture and fighting with that condition could have done irreparable damage.

it's been done, but you know that. ortiz couldnt even talk or close his mouth. i cant really give the kid a hard time for not wanting to box three more rounds. Exactly. He was in there with a demented Lopez. The fight in september was obviously lost. I personally don't think any boxingscene member would have carried on.

it's been done, but you know that. ortiz couldnt even talk or close his mouth. i cant really give the kid a hard time for not wanting to box three more rounds.

Only he knows..... He knew what was at stake..... He felt he couldn't What was it exactly that was at stake??

Could've he continued? probably. His arms and legs were still working fine. Should've he continued? I don't think so. Ortiz was leaking blood from his mouth. There was 9 mins left, and Lopez was tagging him consistently, he was a man on a mission. I doubt Ortiz would make it to the 12th and he would be in worst physical shape than had he not forfeited.