roach made jcc jr the beast he is now?think again

Chavez has a lot of haters becasue he grew up rich and loved by his father.. WAR JUNIOR!!!!

I think Andy Lee made the beast , a good fighter should look that when in with D level opponents , I dont know how Lee gets a WT shot , JC senior made a career out of fighting this class .

martinez should insist on VADA (if hes clean hehe) and then KO this guy, easy

Just thank the WBC and the Texas Athletic Commission. He already has 1 NC for being caught with banned substances, yet he continues to go untested for his recent fights. He's the most protected boxer nowadays, even more than Canelo Alvarez.

Chavez haters will always come up with sorry excuses to donwplay his success. There is a witchhunt by some writers and fighter that hate his success because he was given great opportunities because of his name. But atleast he as taken full advantage of those opportunies. Where the hell is Ronal Herns, Hector Camacho Jr., Dyah Davis, Aaron Pryor Jr, Jorge Paez Jr. and so on? All of them have HOF last names, but they are average fighters that couldnt hold JRs jockstrap. You can keep hoping, thinking, or even wishing for JR to get caught cheating, but untill that happens Ill keep enjoying his VERY FREINDLY fights. Like any good boxing fan JR did get caught cheating and only has one descent name on his resume - Lee

I have been very critical of Jr. but he looked good against Lee. I will have more respect for him if he fights Sergio; however, we can't overlook that Jr has avoided testing, and Segio isn't in a position to demand stricter testing.

suk his co-ck hater Just trying to get a rise out of Mushadeen, moron. I don't mind Julio, I do think he's either using PED's or using illegal s**t to cut weight. If Sergio was smart, he'd ask for USADA or VADA testing, but that would kill the fight, and Sergio has been waiting for this fight for over a year now.

roach has always been a$$ kissed by the boxing writers having roach means writers wont be so hard on jr like before and would be more accepted by whites. wich SR NEVER HAD sr was dam hated by americansThinking back, it does seem like the American boxing writers never gave Chavez the credit he deserved. Chavez was a great fighter and and his fights were always exciting because he took the fight to his opponents hard. He had an iron jaw, a high work rate, a great attack to the head and body, and good defensive skills. In his prime he was near unbeatable.

they don't call him el dinero de puta for nothing..... All roads lead to puta.......... suk his co-ck hater

He was always a beast as I have been saying for the last 3 years. Now everyone is jumping on the bandwagon as if this is a new thing. They don't call him El Dinero De Puta for nothing..... All roads lead to Puta..........

jr speaks enlish well,what stradegy roach gives jr?pressure corner him go to the body jr has alwas done this roach when they rst got togeher was trying to make him box use the jab but jr ended up fighting is own way.remember roach's fighters lack ko power do the research on his guys, ok, so you still haven't answered my question, why is roach there then? what's the benefit? white writers, really? that's the angle?

roach made jcc jr the beast he is now?think again remember roach came with jr 2 weeks before the fight jcc sr was in charge of everyting,before this fight jr lack KO power and his right hand even with his 180 pounds he just couldnt get his oponents out of there.against lee sr took control of his training & all those problems are now gone. Obviously Jr. Thinks Roach is a key ingredient to fine tuning his game or he wouldn't have been with him the last 2 years since he's stepped up his comp. If his dad could provide the same service he'd be with him exclusively. That said, as pointed out in another thread you can thank the WBC and the Texas commission for his recent success. When he's finally forced to go to 168 he's gonna get stretched.

I remember seeing chavez shadow box back in the day and thought to myself 'trolololol what a scrub' Obviously he is not a scrub...but he still looks like one when he is shadow boxing.

Why was Chavez' team hesitant to match him against a southpaw? The kid does a good job catching the jab (in turn making opponents hesitant from even throwing it), cutting off the rim, and creates solid angles for his offense. I think Roach is the game planner, he's the one that creates the gameplans and beats into Jr., but Sr. is the person responsible for Jr.'s skill and tactical improvements and should receive his share of credit for it.

Not to flame but more accepted by whites based on Roach? it has help a little. they now clame jr is way better because of roach.

roach has always been a$$ kissed by the boxing writers having roach means writers wont be so hard on jr like before and would be more accepted by whites. wich SR NEVER HAD sr was dam hated by american Not to flame but more accepted by whites based on Roach?

real I mean with SR in his corner he'd probably have even more mexican/boxing supporters roach has always been a$$ kissed by the boxing writers having roach means writers wont be so hard on jr like before and would be more accepted by whites. wich SR NEVER HAD sr was dam hated by americans

if that's so, why isn't he in his corner? you're going into the championship rounds versus martinez, why would he have roach there as opposed to the real trainer who could offer him valuable advice. I mean with SR in his corner he'd probably have even more mexican/boxing supporters (plus roach doesn't speak spanish). i understand they hooked up late, but then why have roach at all? jr speaks enlish well,what stradegy roach gives jr?pressure corner him go to the body jr has alwas done this roach when they rst got togeher was trying to make him box use the jab but jr ended up fighting is own way.remember roach's fighters lack ko power do the research on his guys,

They did great preparation, they didn´t train to lose weight and he made a good diet. This time he didn´t have to kill himself in the scales and the result was more power, a lot more power. Look at what was happening to the big irish. No way Martínez can take this.: http://i.minus.com/iXWSzdht4orqQ.jpg

Chavez haters will always come up with sorry excuses to donwplay his success. There is a witchhunt by some writers and fighter that hate his success because he was given great opportunities because of his name. But atleast he as taken full advantage of those opportunies. Where the hell is Ronal Herns, Hector Camacho Jr., Dyah Davis, Aaron Pryor Jr, Jorge Paez Jr. and so on? All of them have HOF last names, but they are average fighters that couldnt hold JRs jockstrap. You can keep hoping, thinking, or even wishing for JR to get caught cheating, but untill that happens Ill keep enjoying his VERY FREINDLY fights. Like any good boxing fan Yea didn't read... plz stfu