Can we please stop saying "Manny wants 50/50"

If Arum has enough influence that he can sway a decision against Manny, surely he can sway judges against Floyd in a Floyd-Manny fight. The worst part of that is it means Floyd never ducked Manny, nor Cotto, nor Margarito or any other Top Rank fighter. The only guy Floyd has been ducking is Arum, and after the Pacquiao-Bradley fight even the most diehard Pac fans can see why Floyd didn't want anything to do with Arum fighters. Which leaves us with Manny ducking a drug test and Floyd ducking Arum owned fighters. Who is the real coward there? Just by taking your options into account, ..... well, its been a while now that Manny has agreed to testing while Floyd is still ducking Arum. So by process of elimination, Floyd is ducking! lol!

Manny wants 50/50 Wat ya gonna do about it?

Does anyone really care about this fight anymore? The more I read about it and the more i know these guys are getting older the spectacle is diminishing. I personally couldn't care that much now. The chance to have one of the, if not the, biggest fight of all time (IMO) was gone 2/3 years ago. It would still be good but not what it should have been. I want to see it just for the laughs. To come on here and witness the butthurt idiots. The mass of stupid getting lifted off of the forum.

That''s because we want the fight to happen, you just keep dismissing it because you know if they were to fight Pacquiao would get another boxing lesson for the 3rd time in a row..:booty: No. I don't think you want the fight to happen. I think you're more into winning in some kind of mental games or something. Just like being satisfied with Floyd winning in fantasy fights, and Floyd doesn't have to fight. In reality, life doesn't revolve around internet forums. At the end of the day all these arguments will all come down to a few sound bites. And three to ten years from now, we'll hear young people mutter, "Floyd got scared", "he ducked Pac", etc. :usa2:

fight's not gonna get made unless it's 50/50. real talk

Does anyone really care about this fight anymore? The more I read about it and the more i know these guys are getting older the spectacle is diminishing. I personally couldn't care that much now. The chance to have one of the, if not the, biggest fight of all time (IMO) was gone 2/3 years ago. It would still be good but not what it should have been.

Big Dunn, you are right about 15 round fights being outlawed at the time of the Leonard vs. Hagler fight. My mistake, not intentional.As for all the rest you are 100% right. Pacquiao should take less money and go take his beating from Mayweather.

As usual, almost in every case a Floyd fan brings up the Pac fight. These folks can't seem to move on. They have this take it or leave it stand, but it's looking more like take it, period. They're dumping all these roadblocks, yet they can't take no for an answer. :usa2: That''s because we want the fight to happen, you just keep dismissing it because you know if they were to fight Pacquiao would get another boxing lesson for the 3rd time in a row..:booty:

Bob Arum already screwed the anticipation up for this fight. Wait till Floyd gets out of jail, he's gonna have a ball with the outcome of Pac-Bradley.

I'm actually looking forward to Mayweather vs the Khan/Roach team. Forget about Pac, children. :usa2:

JoeMan has been taking the Manny loss harder than anyone on these forums...you can just see it in his posts :lol1:

As usual, almost in every case a Floyd fan brings up the Pac fight. These folks can't seem to move on. They have this take it or leave it stand, but it's looking more like take it, period. They're dumping all these roadblocks, yet they can't take no for an answer. :usa2:

What you say about Leonard getting the larger ring is true. I left it out because my post was getting pretty long, not because I was wanted skew the facts. If you think that here is a fact you left out. Leonard got Hagler to agree to a 12 round fight instead of the 15 round fight that was standard back then to increase his chances of winning. If Manny made 85million and Floyd made 56million for their fights I would still say it should be a 50/50 fight absolutely. You say all that matters is the numbers and I say it is more complicated than that. We are never going to agree. These debates are fun but usually nobody changes there mind. These numbers you say matter don't matter to the fighters. Even if you are right and Floyd deserves more, what difference does it make if the fight never happens? 12 rounds had been outlawed by that point. It doesn't have to be more complicated than that. The numbers absolutely matter to the fighters. They are professionals, they fight for money. It means that a fight between the 2 premier fighters of this generation isn't happening. As a boxing fan, I am disappointed because I want to see this fight badly and because I believe Bob is doing things behind the scenes to prevent it from happening. As a floyd fan, I'm mad because I think floyd would beat manny handily and shut all the clowns/haters/detractors up but I won't get that unless they fight. One thing, if they switched positions, floyd would surely take what he was worth and make the fight, just like he did with Gatti and ODH. We wouldn't need all these extra negotiations etc etc.

If the fight never happens, then the fans get ****ed, and Floyd continues to make more money than Manny.

You do know that SRL gave Hagler half in exchange for the larger ring, which SRL knew he needed to increase his chances of winning? So yo say "SRL gave Hagler 50/50 without mentioning why skews the facts. As for floyd being fine with 50/50, it was in exchange for random ost. It doesn't matter what a nuetral person's opinion is. It only matter what the numbers say. The numbers clearly show manny doesn't deserve 50/50. Its not about me being a floyd fan, its about the what the numbers say. even though you know floyd generates more you still think manny deserves 50/50. WOuld you feel the same way if things were switched?What you say about Leonard getting the larger ring is true. I left it out because my post was getting pretty long, not because I was wanted skew the facts. If you think that here is a fact you left out. Leonard got Hagler to agree to a 12 round fight instead of the 15 round fight that was standard back then to increase his chances of winning. If Manny made 85million and Floyd made 56million for their fights I would still say it should be a 50/50 fight absolutely. You say all that matters is the numbers and I say it is more complicated than that. We are never going to agree. These debates are fun but usually nobody changes there mind. These numbers you say matter don't matter to the fighters. Even if you are right and Floyd deserves more, what difference does it make if the fight never happens?

the fact of the matter from a unbiased boxing fans point of view is mayweather will set up yet another road block once manny agrees to his latest shinanigas actually manny has already agreed to take less than 50% of the purse so what does mayweather do ? he says he wants all of the ppv money instaed of splitting it equitabliy manny would have to be a fool on the level of roger or floyd sr to accept no ppv money mayweather the serial woman beater is running scare dnow he has no where to run or hide you're unbiased, but you have a picture of Pac's head edited onto Rambo's body? Yea sure, that's very objective

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who says that he's concern about his health fighting pacquiao?

Does the info from Forbes released yesterday clarify for you why Manny doesn't deserve a 50/50 split? Because no one would ever do that in boxing given what happened to Pac on June 9th.I agree. With the terrible decisions we are seeing again and again a boxer would be a fool to leave any part of his purse in the hands of judges.

No it does not. This is a special fight that has nothing to do with what they were paid in their last two fights. This fight is twice as big as any other fight because of both men. You are a big Floyd fan but I see you could not name one neutral boxing expert that thinks Pacquiao should take the short end.Sugar Ray Leonard gave Hagler a 50/50 split in spite of the fact that he always did way better numbers than Hagler because he knew the fight was an event.The estimates I've seen say there will be about 150million available to devide up between the two sides. If that's correct then Floyd's offer amounts to 40million for Pacquiao and 110million for Mayweather. A 50/50 split would be 75million each.The two boxers are to far apart in their demands for the fight to ever happen in my opinion. It does not matter what you or I think is a fair split because Floyd and Manny don't care what we think. I will remind you that Floyd was fine with a 50/50 split a few years ago and he made more money per fight than Pacquiao back then to. You do know that SRL gave Hagler half in exchange for the larger ring, which SRL knew he needed to increase his chances of winning? So yo say "SRL gave Hagler 50/50 without mentioning why skews the facts. As for floyd being fine with 50/50, it was in exchange for random ost. It doesn't matter what a nuetral person's opinion is. It only matter what the numbers say. The numbers clearly show manny doesn't deserve 50/50. Its not about me being a floyd fan, its about the what the numbers say. even though you know floyd generates more you still think manny deserves 50/50. WOuld you feel the same way if things were switched?