Who have you got? Now that both Devon and Timothy are at Welterweight, who have you got to win for a rematch? Bradley definitely lost his match against Pacquiao it seemed like he had 0 power at the weight class. However, Alexander looked pretty strong at 147 - he almost took Maidana's head off. In a rematch, I say Alexander wins without the headbutts. For the record, I'm interested in seeing the rematch despite how ugly the previous one was mostly because Timothy lost pretty badly and I feel that now's the time that Devon can get his payback.
??? And that matter's becuz? My point was that Kotelnik and Matthysse EXPOSED Alexander... Him not getting headbutted in those fights just makes my point that much mire valid... He has no excuse
He was being frustrated with headbutts while losing rounds. He mentally folded and gave up on that fight. Did he not? We are talking about the Bradley fight and expectations of a rematch. This is what this thread is asking. He never gave up once in the Matthysse fight he kept on fighting until it was over. We can't say the same for the Bradley fight now can we?
I don't see ur point? Sure being in a dirty fight would frustrate u, but does that mean quit? Ortiz was famous for quitting when it mattered most, and he got frustrated in the Mayweather fight apparently due to dirty tactics from Floyd... Did he quit? No... He tried to break his nose with a headbutt... And Floyd quit after those dirty tactics? No, he... well u know what Floyd did
I don't see ur point
Not everyone quits in every situation but in this one we saw it happen. What Ortiz does and is famous for has no point in our discussion. Is Ortiz and Alexander the same fighter? Does every fighter react the same way to certain situations? I don't see your point in bringing that up. I have always talked about Devon Alexander and Devon Alexander only (in this thread). His reactions and mental strength should not be compared to other fighters.
What proof do u have that he learned anything? That's what my point was, duhh
Interviews. I have heard him and Cunningham say they would do things differently (obviously) if they had a rematch and they learned from it. I'm not sure what interviews exactly but perhaps any lengthy interviews obviously after the Bradley fight. The Matthysse fight is bit of evidence of it. You said Alexander was exposed by Bradley. He ended up quitting. He was in a tough fight right after it against Lucas Matthysse and arguably could have been losing as well. Did he fold and quit there as well? I guess that's where the headbutts play into it as well.
If u recall, I said "you MAY HAVE been impressed"... That's not an assumption, that is a hypothetical... 2 completely different things
You're wearing blue boxers, and u are about to eat Spaghetti...
I am sorry for saying that then. I thought you were hinting that I was easily fooled by Alexander's performance against Marcos Maidana. Also look at my original comment in this thread. I said a rematch would be more competitive than before I did not say I thought Alexander would beat him.
And that's pretty creppy. I am wearing blue boxers and I ate Lasagna. LOL
Against Kotelnik or Matthysse did you see him get repeatedly headbutted?
??? And that matter's becuz? My point was that Kotelnik and Matthysse EXPOSED Alexander... Him not getting headbutted in those fights just makes my point that much mire valid... He has no excuse
Do you not think being in a dirty fight would frustrate someone? And how he gave up in the Bradley fight did you see him give up in the Matthysse fight?
I don't see ur point? Sure being in a dirty fight would frustrate u, but does that mean quit? Ortiz was famous for quitting when it mattered most, and he got frustrated in the Mayweather fight apparently due to dirty tactics from Floyd... Did he quit? No... He tried to break his nose with a headbutt... And Floyd quit after those dirty tactics? No, he... well u know what Floyd did
I don't see ur point
Do you not think that an Alexander who learned from the Bradley loss would want to put up a better performance than the crap one he did in the first one?
What proof do u have that he learned anything? That's what my point was, duhh
And LOL @ you assuming I think he impressed me with Maidana or me thinking Maidana and Bradley are equal. I guess you do know Boxing and maybe a bit more since you already know my opinions and thoughts and fights that weren't even discussed in this thread. Do you know more things like the color boxers I'm wearing too? Do you know what I'm about to eat as well?
If u recall, I said "you MAY HAVE been impressed"... That's not an assumption, that is a hypothetical... 2 completely different things
You're wearing blue boxers, and u are about to eat Spaghetti...
Im down for a rematch. I've always said that Devon had a bad night in the first fight. I think he wins the rematch. He looks to be the stronger fighter at147. He cant let Timothy be the aggressor and bully him all night though
Shoot, Tim was laughing while walking back to his corner after the rounds. Tim will crush him in a rematch....Devon is stronger at 147 but he couldn't hit Bradley with anything.
the only reason for a rematch is because devon looks alot better at 147. but i still wouldnt wanna see a rematch. how about devon vs paulie and timmy vs bailey.
So making a wishful assumption = knowing boxing?
Alexander looked the same to me as he does in every fight, the only difference is his opponent was just as slick, if nor more so... He's a one trick pony, if u get passed his jab jab straight left, you beat him, as seen by Kotelnik, Matthysse, and finally Bradley
Against Maidana, he may have impressed u, but I didn't realize Maidana and Bradley were the same... I guess u do know more about boxing than I do, cause I never would've noticed that
Against Kotelnik or Matthysse did you see him get repeatedly headbutted? Do you not think being in a dirty fight would frustrate someone? And how he gave up in the Bradley fight did you see him give up in the Matthysse fight? Do you not think that an Alexander who learned from the Bradley loss would want to put up a better performance than the crap one he did in the first one?
And LOL @ you assuming I think he impressed me with Maidana or me thinking Maidana and Bradley are equal. I guess you do know Boxing and maybe a bit more since you already know my opinions and thoughts and fights that weren't even discussed in this thread. Do you know more things like the color boxers I'm wearing too? Do you know what I'm about to eat as well?
Bradley wins again but more impressively. The reason some people think Alexander looked iffy was because Bradley was and is a better fighter. Alexander got his fist real test and quit, plain and simple. Bradley is only going to get tougher and more experienced after his fight with pac
I wouldn't mind it if they both could win a couple of fights there ya know Devon vs Paulie and Bradley vs bailey could set up that rematch and the winner fights Floyd works for me.
Because Alexander didn't show up in that fight. If you had any clue about Boxing you would know that Alexander is a better fighter than what he was in that Bradley fight. A rematch with an Alexander who learned his mistakes giving up in that fight and wanting to erase the doubters will make for a better fight. All we can hope for is that Bradley doesn't headbutt like he constantly did in the first fight.
So making a wishful assumption = knowing boxing?
Alexander looked the same to me as he does in every fight, the only difference is his opponent was just as slick, if nor more so... He's a one trick pony, if u get passed his jab jab straight left, you beat him, as seen by Kotelnik, Matthysse, and finally Bradley
Against Maidana, he may have impressed u, but I didn't realize Maidana and Bradley were the same... I guess u do know more about boxing than I do, cause I never would've noticed that
The first fight was one-sided (and not the good kind) why would anybody want to see this?
Out of 10 rounds, Bradley one 7 easy... And in the 10 round, he was schooling Alexander... I could only see him schooling him even worse for the last 2...
And if he had any punching power, it would have been a stoppage
Because Alexander didn't show up in that fight. If you had any clue about Boxing you would know that Alexander is a better fighter than what he was in that Bradley fight. A rematch with an Alexander who learned his mistakes giving up in that fight and wanting to erase the doubters will make for a better fight. All we can hope for is that Bradley doesn't headbutt like he constantly did in the first fight.
The first fight was one-sided (and not the good kind) why would anybody want to see this?
Out of 10 rounds, Bradley one 7 easy... And in the 10 round, he was schooling Alexander... I could only see him schooling him even worse for the last 2...
And if he had any punching power, it would have been a stoppage
And the 2 or 3 rounds Alexander won were only because Bradley wasn't active, and there wasn't much a choice but to give them to Alexander.
The first fight was one-sided (and not the good kind) why would anybody want to see this?
Out of 10 rounds, Bradley one 7 easy... And in the 10 round, he was schooling Alexander... I could only see him schooling him even worse for the last 2...
And if he had any punching power, it would have been a stoppage
I voted Bradley by decision. Alexander seems much improved at 147. I think it would be a very close fight but I don't like voting split decision because it implies that two judges will get it right and the other judge will get it wrong. I always hope for good judging. I'll say Bradley wins by two points on all three cards.
What did Bradley do to people to make them underestimate him so badly? There really was nothing that close about the first fight, at all, and Alexander quit. What could possibly be different the second time?
Please.
Bradley beats him the same way.....Devon's gonna try to hold his way to a win just like the first fight, and then when it doesn't work he'll try headbutting his way out of it again. It's funny how Devon says something about Timmy's head when he's the one looking like a got damn hammer head shark.
Im down for a rematch. I've always said that Devon had a bad night in the first fight. I think he wins the rematch. He looks to be the stronger fighter at147. He cant let Timothy be the aggressor and bully him all night though
I thought the same thing. IIt seemed like Devon just had a bad night. I also though that Bradley looked very vulnerable and a little lost against Pac. I'd favor Alexander.