Floyd was the greatest of all time when he was with Arum, when Floyd left Arum said he wasn't great, now that Manny is his fighter Manny is hte greatest, if Manny leaves, Arum will say Manny is just a dumb third worlder and insult him bad the way he did Oscar saying Oscar isn't smart and he had to help Floyd and Oscar get credit cards because they were too dumb.
Remember that interview with Floyd on fight hype while he was driving his car, he said something like Bob Arum likes dumb fighters? basically referring to Manny who has a slave contract with Arum and doesn't question him or speak up. Arum basically pays Pacman a low guarantee of 6 million, this is the money HE MUST pay Manny up front and in reality thats all he really has to pay him in the contract, and then he pays Manny the rest of the supposed PPV money in increments, but Arum never says how much, According to Floyd, Arum pays him to satisfy Manny just enough, so he will probably give Manny the money when he asks or needs it and give him like 600 grand at a time and for Manny that is A lot in pesos you can live like a king in the Philippines with that money.
This way Arum doesn't get in trouble, if Arum is confronted and asked how come you didn't pay him the 26 million yet? Arum will say I never said WHEN I will pay him in full and my contract never said 26 million I specifically said Pacman could make up to 26 million when its all said and done, so how can I be in trouble? And he will also say I paid him his guarantee of 6 million, so you have nothing on me.
Floyd has hinted many times before that Arum would use Pac up and even Murad Muhammad said that Arum was setting up Bradley to beat Pacquiao a few days before the fight.
Arum has power over Manny like no other person, when Manny hired Visionqwest to oversee his earnings from the day Arum signed him they revealed that he was only worth 20 million total or something like that, and that he should have earned a lot more, if you calculated supposed earnings and Pacman should actually be worth over 100 million right now. What happened was Visionqwest got fired once they touched soil in the Philippines, Arum told Manny to fire them, Arum probably scared Manny. Arum is putting dirt on Manny just in case Manny tries to sue, Arum probably gave Pacman some faulty advice on taxes this is why Pacquiao was under heat for tax evasion. So if the time comes that Pacman tries to leave or sue, Arum conveniently has things to use against Pacman.
Floyd also said the way Pacman gets paid is Arum bending the rules, Arum is so good with law he knows how to basically rob a fighter and get away with it he is very sly.
Remember when Oscar signed Pacman and he boasted saying he beat the biggest J#w to come out of harvard? Arum was able to use his law skills to get Pacquiao back because nobody on Oscar's team could hang with Arum and his law team they have too much skill on how to win.
Manny's realisation as Buffer announced the judges scores was interesting. He smiled with a resigned look as if he knew this was coming or he had been pre-warned by Arum or a senior member of the camp.
Arum has Manny by the short and curlies. Either Manny has told Arum that he wants out, Arum has dirt on Manny or simply a combination of both.
I'm sure Ariza knows exactly what it is. I just hope he finds it within himself to out Arum. He's not on Arum's payroll so he may just do that.
Not directed at anyone in particular, but I can't believe people are JUST finally starting to acknowledge this.
:sad: same man
but still....
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you may be right about arum robbing pacman blind. the problem is floyd wants to take over robbing pacman blind. his joke of an offer of 0% ppv is a joke. it's not what you expect from a boxer who wants to prove himself in the ring against pacman. months ago he and his apologists were talking about drug testing issues. it's all they debated on for three straight years. now it's arum. every time the current bluff is called, floyd comes up with another.
in a way, floyd is using arum to divert the blame away from him.
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$6 million fights are a joke if you are supposedly worth $100 million
what funny is nobody was *****ing when Cotto was made to fight at catchweight or when Margarito while still suspended went out and got him a fight at catchweight for a vacant belt or Mosley looking like **** vs Mora at 154 being made to fight at 147 or 38 year old Marquez being asked to jump two weight class's to fight and still get jobbed.
All while Arum supposedly trying so hard to get Floyd in the ring against the Manny Pacquiao
Great Point
it is a shame that people need Mayweather out of all people to tell them the fukin OBVIOUS
OF COURSE HE IS ROBBING PACQUIAO! Now he is robbing him in the ring lol
And to add insult to injury, after the decision was announced in the Pacquiao vs Bradley fight, check out the look on Bob Arum's face. When the announcer said, "And Newwwwww Champion, Tim Bradley" Bob Arum was up in Tim's face grinning from ear to ear. Bob also let it be known that he stood to make alot of money in the rematch. He did not mention that the fighters stood to make alot of money. His intentions are obvious.
:lol1: something like this had to happen to PROVE to some that Floyd wasn't AFRAID to fight Manny?!?...of course Floyd was right and those who said Arum didn't want the fight and was doing any and everything to stop it...was right as well!!...everbody else was wrong!! :boxing:
I would've thought you were trolling before, but after reading the artible about what Top Rank did during Pacquiao's gambling issues, it sure sounded as if that were the formula.
Bob Arum isn't going to be giving Manny hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars out of the goodness of his heart. That money was either part of Pacquiao's purse being alloted to him afterward or monies being deducted from Pacquiao's future purses. Either way, there are plenty of ways to avoid paying Pacquiao even close to what he's reportedly earned...
Yup, and Arum knows the law, he knows about taxes and pay scale, He can bend the rules and get away with it, no other promoter is good at doing this. Don King has to flat out steal from you, but Arum can take your money and do it legally with exceptions.
He clearly pays Pacman the Guarantee 6 million, and released a number like Pacman earned 32 million total, which is obviously smoke and mirrors, when in reality is he never gave a deadline or cut off date when he had to pay that money off by, he just told Manny he will pay him in increments.
That way Arum doesn't get into trouble and Pacman doesn't have a lawyer or tax guy or manager who is capable, that fiipino lawyer Jeng Gacal is incompetent that guy let Pac sign two contracts without going over it.
This is also the reason why Arum convinced Pacquiao to fire Shelly Finkel as his manager.
Guys like Tim Bradley, Nonito donaire, and Brandon rios are safe, because they have a manager in Cameron Dunkin who will defend them and knows the business.
Pacquiao has no manager, he has an adviser who is basically an Arum mole following him around 24/7 which is Konz and Konz told Arum Pacman was hiring someone to look over his taxes, and Arum was able to stop them.
Pacquiao is pretty much going to wind up poor and broke and Jinkee will leave his ass, this is sad that this **** still goes on in boxing.
I would've thought you were trolling before, but after reading the artible about what Top Rank did during Pacquiao's gambling issues, it sure sounded as if that were the formula.
Bob Arum isn't going to be giving Manny hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars out of the goodness of his heart. That money was either part of Pacquiao's purse being alloted to him afterward or monies being deducted from Pacquiao's future purses. Either way, there are plenty of ways to avoid paying Pacquiao even close to what he's reportedly earned...
you may be right about arum robbing pacman blind. the problem is floyd wants to take over robbing pacman blind. his joke of an offer of 0% ppv is a joke. it's not what you expect from a boxer who wants to prove himself in the ring against pacman. months ago he and his apologists were talking about drug testing issues. it's all they debated on for three straight years. now it's arum. every time the current bluff is called, floyd comes up with another.
in a way, floyd is using arum to divert the blame away from him.
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Do you see anybody else offering Manny 40 mil because I dont. Now Floyds offer might not be the best offer but it's an offer. If Manny holds out too long hes not gonna end up with d1ck. 40 mil might not be the best offer but it's better than anything else hes gotten to this point. I dont understand why Mannys side keeps pulling out of these negiotiations.
Lols. Boxers should be promoters. Promoters should be boxers. End of story
The rich have always found a way to bamboozle the masses to the point where we don't trust our own.
Why would any young fighter go knock on Arum or King's door when Oscar and Mayweather have actually experienced life in the ring.
Gamboa was wise in his decision.
you may be right about arum robbing pacman blind. the problem is floyd wants to take over robbing pacman blind. his joke of an offer of 0% ppv is a joke. it's not what you expect from a boxer who wants to prove himself in the ring against pacman. months ago he and his apologists were talking about drug testing issues. it's all they debated on for three straight years. now it's arum. every time the current bluff is called, floyd comes up with another.
in a way, floyd is using arum to divert the blame away from him.
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When are people going to realize that 60-40 is on the table??? Larry Merchant asked Floyd in his post fight interview on May 5th if Floyd would be willing come off his offer of 60-40.......
Also why are people automatically saing Pac made 26 million for the Bradley fight????? He made 6 million guaranteed and they said it could end up being 26 million based on what the fight sells. And it sounds like the fight didn't sell all that much.
it is a shame that people need Mayweather out of all people to tell them the fukin OBVIOUS
OF COURSE HE IS ROBBING PACQUIAO! Now he is robbing him in the ring lol
yeah, should have known when Arum said Pacman was afraid of needles which was BS. Arum just didnt want Pac to fight floyd, Arum is a snake, Pac said he wanted to retire after fighting floyd and Arum wasnt going to have that.
here we are 3 years later after making 100 million on Pac while giving Pacman only 20 million.
it is a shame that people need Mayweather out of all people to tell them the fukin OBVIOUS
OF COURSE HE IS ROBBING PACQUIAO! Now he is robbing him in the ring lol
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I agree with you by the way it is just that the taste of vindication is too sweet.