Should there be a MANDATORY RETIREMENT AGE for Judges?

You can find her pic at the web link below. Judges need to have access to the same equipment as the commentators. They certainly can use television monitors for starters. Where she is sitting, I can certainly see things that she could miss. http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Manny+Pacquiao/C.J.+Ross/Manny+Pacquiao+v+Timothy+Bradley/Wu2n_PRUwCV just as i suspected. old & wearing bifocals. ...

I don't think that retirement is mandatory over-all. Some in needed positions are known to work long past the retirement age of 65, and I've read that in the US some are working past age 65. This arbitrary cut-off, incidentally, has only existed since about the 1880's. It was inaugurated by Von Bismark, the German statesman. Before that, people worked until they either died, or became incapable of doing the job, age not considered. But, I think you are right, in boxing, and in other sports where sharp eyesight, keen reaction and comprehension are a must, there should be regular re-examinations past a decided-on age, or when competence is questioned. There is too much, in reputation, and money, at stake for this matter to be ignored. Also immediate video replay should be available to every boxing judge to look at between rds, before he puts down his score. Of course, aa you say, correct me if I'm wrong. i forgot to add/clarify in my OP in regards to the UK, it was mandatory age for a referee not judge. I remember mickey van having to retire because of it.

There is no direct correlation between bad judging and age. This is your opinion. Being "Shady"-the term you used- is not directly connected to age either. If so, then this would mean Harold Lederman, who is also old, but scored the fight the way you saw it, must also be scoring it wrong because he has diminshed mental capacity. My opinion is as you get older like in your freaking 70s, you're not as sharp mentally & physically & you shouldnt be judging or involved in judging sporting events that involved the greatest physical athletic specimens in the planet. but that's just me. I feel inclined to respect the elders, they are wise. yea if i want life lessons sure. if i need quick mental aptitude & eye sight ill pass on 70 year olds. There should be a post fight judging system to grade them on their scorecards going back and reviewing wether they were close to what the result should of been of course there will always be subjective scores and rounds but you can ususally narrow it down and see who might be scoring from outer space and who is accurate and the highest graded judge gets the bigger fights and more fights. Also maybe have 5-6 judges to get a wider pool to have as deciding factors In the nba, there is extensive post game analysis of each referee's game. they check what calls they missed. even before the donaghy scandal, david stern hired a former army general to oversee referee competence. It doesnt seem to be working since nba refs still suck. My solution would be a fourth referee that judges the fight on television. The 3 judges all have different angles when they are situated at their positions. Why not add a 4 judge that scores what the audience sees?

Look i dont have to tell you guys that as you get older everything slows down. Mentally & physically everything slows down. Your reflexes, your train of thought, evertying. In england they have a mandatory retirement age of 60 or 65 (any brits care to correct me if im wrong). Why cant there be one for judges? If you look at a lot of the crooked scorecards over the years, you will see 70 & 80 year old judges involved. Gale van Hoy & Glenn Hamada come to mind. If you look at sports across the board, a lot of referees & judges are of old age. Even in the nfl where they had to institute instant replay, you see a lot of old referees. In the nba, there are a lot of old referees. Dick Bavetta & the ultra hot head joey crawford come to mind. I know im just pissing in the wind here because this will never happen especially in america where old people are the power & if we cant even institute a mandatory age on driving where fatal statistics have shown that old people have caused lots of fatalities, how much more in boxing.... I don't think that retirement is mandatory over-all. Some in needed positions are known to work long past the retirement age of 65, and I've read that in the US some are working past age 65. This arbitrary cut-off, incidentally, has only existed since about the 1880's. It was inaugurated by Von Bismark, the German statesman. Before that, people worked until they either died, or became incapable of doing the job, age not considered. But, I think you are right, in boxing, and in other sports where sharp eyesight, keen reaction and comprehension are a must, there should be regular re-examinations past a decided-on age, or when competence is questioned. There is too much, in reputation, and money, at stake for this matter to be ignored. Also immediate video replay should be available to every boxing judge to look at between rds, before he puts down his score. Of course, aa you say, correct me if I'm wrong.

There should be a post fight judging system to grade them on their scorecards going back and reviewing wether they were close to what the result should of been of course there will always be subjective scores and rounds but you can ususally narrow it down and see who might be scoring from outer space and who is accurate and the highest graded judge gets the bigger fights and more fights. Also maybe have 5-6 judges to get a wider pool to have as deciding factors

Pic of CJ Ross cant find a pic of cj ross but she is also a old hag who wears glasses... You can find her pic at the web link below. Judges need to have access to the same equipment as the commentators. They certainly can use television monitors for starters. Where she is sitting, I can certainly see things that she could miss. http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Manny+Pacquiao/C.J.+Ross/Manny+Pacquiao+v+Timothy+Bradley/Wu2n_PRUwCV

And because Lederman scorecard doesn't mean ****. He can get it right or wrong all he wants. Anyone who goes by his scorecard is obviously a casual. No one is questioning Harold Lederman because we do not know if he has the a screen in front of him while he is at ringside.

There shouldn't necessarily be a mandatory retirement age, but when judges clearly get the wrong result, they should be forced to defend their scoring in front of a panel and subject to punishment like suspension or revocation of licenses. Instead guys like Duane Ford, Jerry Roth and Joe Cortez keep getting jobs on a big stage and screwing up. And they'll get more jobs too. There has to be accountability, and this masochistic crap has to stop.

CJ Ross's Pic cant find a pic of cj ross but she is also a old hag who wears glasses... http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Manny+Pacquiao/C.J.+Ross/Manny+Pacquiao+v+Timothy+Bradley/Wu2n_PRUwCV You can see her in the background.

I feel inclined to respect the elders, they are wise.

are you a moron? there is correlation between old age & diminished mental capacities. why are you arguing this? did you read the op? i gave you two shady judges & their old age. there is correlation. Lets take a look at another robbery, Paul Williams vs Lara: Donald Givens 116-114. Date of Birth 10-2-1934 lmfaaooooo 78 years old? I can keep going. There is no direct correlation between bad judging and age. This is your opinion. Being "Shady"-the term you used- is not directly connected to age either. If so, then this would mean Harold Lederman, who is also old, but scored the fight the way you saw it, must also be scoring it wrong because he has diminshed mental capacity.

nobody is questioning harold lederman because he got the scores right. YOu cannot argue with father time. The older you get the slower your mental capacities get. how are you suppose to keep up with world class athletes? And because Lederman scorecard doesn't mean ****. He can get it right or wrong all he wants. Anyone who goes by his scorecard is obviously a casual.

listen just do the research yourself. trust me, there is correlation between old age & messed up scoring. i gotta bow out for a little bit but ill be back...

The point is you assciated bad judging with age when its clear there is no direct correlation between the two. You need judges that are professional. Besides, Ive disagreed with Harold several times, just not here. are you a moron? there is correlation between old age & diminished mental capacities. why are you arguing this? did you read the op? i gave you two shady judges & their old age. there is correlation. Lets take a look at another robbery, Paul Williams vs Lara: Donald Givens 116-114. Date of Birth 10-2-1934 lmfaaooooo 78 years old? I can keep going.

The retirement age in America is already moved back to like 73. I could see a mandatory retirement age for judges at 75, I wouldn't support it but I could understand it. There should really be one for referees and fighters as well. The former would be grouped like the judges, but the latter would be for fighters health.

A lot of people complained when he had Alexander winning nearly every round against Kotelnyk. And even more people complained about his scorecard in the 3rd Pac/JMM fight and his justification for scoring it this way. Yeah I know. People complain when Harold doesn't score the way they see it. IMO, Harold was right on this one and floyd/cotto. DO I always agree with him, no., nor should I. Its judging. Its subjective.

nobody is questioning harold lederman because he got the scores right. YOu cannot argue with father time. The older you get the slower your mental capacities get. how are you suppose to keep up with world class athletes? The point is you assciated bad judging with age when its clear there is no direct correlation between the two. You need judges that are professional. Besides, Ive disagreed with Harold several times, just not here.

Harold Lederman is that old and noone seems to be complaining about his scorecard. A lot of people complained when he had Alexander winning nearly every round against Kotelnyk. And even more people complained about his scorecard in the 3rd Pac/JMM fight and his justification for scoring it this way.

Arum seems to be beating father time. maybe promotions should have an age requirement as well is arum a boxing judge? wait nevermind, take that back....

Harold Lederman is that old and noone seems to be complaining about his scorecard. Its not age IMO. There have been horrible scores across the planet that didn't involve old judges. Thats why I disagree with your premise. Judges can be old or young, as long as they follow universally accepted scoring methods every time they judge a fight. nobody is questioning harold lederman because he got the scores right. YOu cannot argue with father time. The older you get the slower your mental capacities get. how are you suppose to keep up with world class athletes?