I say that thinking on business terms, not because Bradley is the better fighter . I've met Bradley a bunch of times, and my brother knows him personally (his sister-in-law is like best friends with bradley's wife -- when he bought his wife a car after he signed with top rank, he hid it away in my bros' garage, lol)
I say "business terms" because Pac's near the end of his career and there's no ****ing way, after Arum sunk millions into Bradley with a sizable signing bonus, the money from the Casamayor fight, and the guarantee he's getting in this Pacquiao fight, that Arum would let Bradley lose.
Bradley is set to be Arum's new pet/cash cow. This fight will be a changing of the guard. If Bradley loses, his career (at least as a money maker for Arum) is over. Arum can't let that happen with the investment he's made in Bradley thus far -- if he loses, who else can he fight? his career is pretty established, and his resumé is impressive with wins over peterson, alexander, nate campbell and casamyor -- even though he's fairly unknown. If he loses against elite opposition, he's going to be seen as a B-rate fighter and there isnt much more he can do at this point -- maybe move up in weight? not too much left in the welterweight division right now, so he'd have to move up to like 154 or something, where he'd get destroyed.
On the other hand even if Pac loses, he's still marketable simply because of his status within the sport. A loss, or a controversial decision in a fixed fight would probably even make him MORE popular than he already is. People will be up in arms about that ****. They can make a rematch with Bradley, or see if a loss gets Mayweather in the ring. Either way, **** doesn't matter at this point in his career -- he's already achieved so much and largely cemented his legacy.
Obviously this is all conspiracy theory ****, but I wouldnt put it past Arum. Need proof?
look at Rios vs Abril, which was like 10 rounds to 2, and Rios still won
Márquez didn´t got the decision because he refused to give Arum full rights over his name and image when he signed latest fight contract. And of course he is too old for a small light weight and hasn´t a flashy marketable style.
And you can pay Tim a hell of alot less than you can JMM for a fight.
^EXACTLY!!!
Sign your soul over to the "DEVIL" Bob Arum and he will grant you your wishes
Problem is Bradley is not marketable, he has no KO power and there are many amateurs that have better punching technique than him.
Most fans find him to be a boring fighter. You'll be hard pressed to find 100, 000 persons that would be willing to pay a PPV to watch him fight as the main attraction.
TR is in big trouble, all the big rising stars: Broner, Gray Russel Jr., Dulorme, Canelo, etc. are with their rival promotional companies.
Arum backed the wrong horse. I predict Bradley is gonna have a Jermain Taylor type career. Two questionable wins over an ATG, a series of lackluster performances and finally a KO loss after which his career will go downhill.
I will. ^^^
Not as long as he is with Top Rank. Tim unfortunately is a casulty of TR's bull****. Tim is an innocent bystander (I hope). But Bob will not get anymore of my money. Not a single ****ing penny.
Márquez didn´t got the decision because he refused to give Arum full rights over his name and image when he signed latest fight contract. And of course he is too old for a small light weight and hasn´t a flashy marketable style.
And you can pay Tim a hell of alot less than you can JMM for a fight.
Márquez didn´t got the decision because he refused to give Arum full rights over his name and image when he signed latest fight contract. And of course he is too old for a small light weight and hasn´t a flashy marketable style.
The only way I'm buying into this is if Arum feels there's no way the Mayweather fight ever gets done.
It's sad either way because like many have said, we didn't see JMM vs Pac in a tough fight, we saw a blow out that resulted in a robbery.
If JMM was younger and he was official signed to Top Rank, he would have gotten the win over Pacquiao in their last fight
fans need to wake the hell up, ask yourself why wasn't JMM giving the Decision but Bradley was?...Uh...BECAUSE BRADLEY IS OFFICIALLY SIGNED WITH TOP RANK LONG TERM!
You think this is bad...wait until you see what they do to Martinez if he fights Chavez Jr. and it goes to the Score Cards :nonono: Arum is not going to let some "OUTSIDER" come and become a "STAR" against his fighters, he has made that clear...hell even this coming fight with Chavez Jr. and Andy Lee, only way Andy Lee is wins is a KO because he too will get fuked over on the cards
Arum is in his Office on this Monday laughing at the Media and Pacquiao fans :nonono:
I agree 100%
Think about it.....Rios has just been exposed. Gamboa jumped ship, Jones got KO'd...Pavlik exposed., Lopez exposed...lee is a fraud.....when you really think about it, Top Rank has Manny and that's about it.
Bradley is the only fighter they have that is close to being marketable at this point, and Arum has stated several times, when Bradley was with Shaw, that he could build Bradley up into a big name.
Chavez Jr is more marketable than Bradley. Donaire probably does better ratings and gate numbers as well.
I the think he is bang on, we should all know by now that Arum could care less about the sport, its fans or the fighters. Its all about how he can fill his pockets.
http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u519/mognoose27/cashcow.jpg
:lol1::lol1::lol1:
That pic explains everything.
Bradley is still going to be Bradley, I would say this though...Arum really need to do more to market Bradley, The 247 did help him IMO and i could see Bradley is now following the Mayweather blueprint so maybe he can be a cash-cow afterall, I still have no doubts that Pac was sold out here by Arum no doubt in my mind.
I agree 100%
Think about it.....Rios has just been exposed. Gamboa jumped ship, Jones got KO'd...Pavlik exposed., Lopez exposed...lee is a fraud.....when you really think about it, Top Rank has Manny and that's about it.
Bradley is the only fighter they have that is close to being marketable at this point, and Arum has stated several times, when Bradley was with Shaw, that he could build Bradley up into a big name.
Bradley is still going to be Bradley, I would say this though...Arum really need to do more to market Bradley, The 247 did help him IMO and i could see Bradley is now following the Mayweather blueprint so maybe he can be a cash-cow afterall, I still have no doubts that Pac was sold out here by Arum no doubt in my mind.
I the think he is bang on, we should all know by now that Arum could care less about the sport, its fans or the fighters. Its all about how he can fill his pockets.
http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u519/mognoose27/cashcow.jpg
Picture looks pretty accurate...
I the think he is bang on, we should all know by now that Arum could care less about the sport, its fans or the fighters. Its all about how he can fill his pockets.
http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u519/mognoose27/cashcow.jpg
The very first thing that came to my thoughts. I couldn't agree more, Bradley is a B class sparring partner type with B class opponents. Bob Arum is just smart and an ass at the same time LOL
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Yi0Q1ClVBMM/T9T_HS1i-9I/AAAAAAAACJ8/LkUaE4k3MNo/s640/loll3.jpg
1. Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao.
2. Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao.
3. Ray Markarian, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
4. Michael Marley, Examiner: 119-109 Pacquiao.
5. Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao.
6. Vittorio Tafur, San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao.
7. Michael Woods, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
8. Ramon Aranda, 3 More Rounds: 118-110 Pacquiao.
9. Mario Cabrera, Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao.
10. Nigel Collins, ESPN: 118-110 Pacquiao.
11. Mike Coppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
12. Ace Freeman, Fight Fan: 118-110 Pacquiao.
13. Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao.
14. Kelsey McCarson, The Sweet Science: 118-110 Pacquiao.
15. Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing: 118-110 Pacquiao.
16. Pete O’Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao.
17. Eric Raskin, Grantland: 118-110 Pacquiao.
18. Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
19. Colin Seymour, Examiner: 118-110 Pacquiao.
20. Ryan Songalia, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
21. Ryan Burton, Boxing Scene: 117-112 Pacquiao.
22. Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 117-111 Pacquiao.
23. Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao.
24. Gareth Davies, London Daily Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao.
25. Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao.
26. David Greisman, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
27. Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow: 117-111 Pacquiao.
28. Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao.
29. Robert Littal, Black Sports Online: 117-111 Pacquiao.
30. Steve Kim, Max Boxing: 117-111 Pacquiao.
The list won't stop....but you can hit the link if you like :hitit:
http://blog.johnny360.com/2012/06/cancer-in-boxing.html
I say that thinking on business terms, not because Bradley is the better fighter . I've met Bradley a bunch of times, and my brother knows him personally (his sister-in-law is like best friends with bradley's wife -- when he bought his wife a car after he signed with top rank, he hid it away in my bros' garage, lol)
I say "business terms" because Pac's near the end of his career and there's no ****ing way, after Arum sunk millions into Bradley with a sizable signing bonus, the money from the Casamayor fight, and the guarantee he's getting in this Pacquiao fight, that Arum would let Bradley lose.
Bradley is set to be Arum's new pet/cash cow. This fight will be a changing of the guard. If Bradley loses, his career (at least as a money maker for Arum) is over. Arum can't let that happen with the investment he's made in Bradley thus far -- if he loses, who else can he fight? his career is pretty established, and his resumé is impressive with wins over peterson, alexander, nate campbell and casamyor -- even though he's fairly unknown. If he loses against elite opposition, he's going to be seen as a B-rate fighter and there isnt much more he can do at this point -- maybe move up in weight? not too much left in the welterweight division right now, so he'd have to move up to like 154 or something, where he'd get destroyed.
On the other hand even if Pac loses, he's still marketable simply because of his status within the sport. A loss, or a controversial decision in a fixed fight would probably even make him MORE popular than he already is. People will be up in arms about that ****. They can make a rematch with Bradley, or see if a loss gets Mayweather in the ring. Either way, **** doesn't matter at this point in his career -- he's already achieved so much and largely cemented his legacy.
Obviously this is all conspiracy theory ****, but I wouldnt put it past Arum. Need proof?
look at Rios vs Abril, which was like 10 rounds to 2, and Rios still won
Poor investment cause who's going to pay to watch Bradley on PPV after his corrupt win