5 fights since PEDs allegations, no knockouts

This thread is gonna touch a really sensitive nerve. :lol1:

lol Weebler is losing it since Pacquiao lost. "Pacquiao has 0 KO's at welter and Mosley never touched the canvas before facing Pacquiao" lolol Yeah that's funny

De La Hoya and Cotto were at WW lol Weebler is losing it since Pacquiao lost. "Pacquiao has 0 KO's at welter and Mosley never touched the canvas before facing Pacquiao" lolol

De La Hoya and Cotto were at WW ODLH quit and the ref stepped in against Cotto who went 10 or 11 rounds.

He hasn't KO'd anyone at WW. He's human, everyone has their limits. De La Hoya and Cotto were at WW

Well were those guys tougher than Morales? If the criteria for not being knocked out by Pac is toughness well I'm dispelling that nonsense Great job you really told me

Pac won the fight. I agree with this guy lol http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z388/1dcsailor/ynvgr.png http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z388/1dcsailor/sheed.png

Manny Pacquaio isn't "anyone." His run from Ledwaba to Cotto was legendary....Once again Clottey was dropped by a Cotto jab, Margarito was brutally stopped by Mosley, and het gets props for dropping Mosley but Manny didn't have it in him to track Mosley and stop him. He hasn't KO'd anyone at WW. He's human, everyone has their limits.

And your point is? Well were those guys tougher than Morales? If the criteria for not being knocked out by Pac is toughness well I'm dispelling that nonsense

Clottey - hid behind guard Margarito - broken orbital bone Mosley - knocked down first time in career (?) Marquez - it's Marquez Bradley - carried him Mosley got put on his ass by Vernon Forrest. Also lol at you suggesting that Pacquiao carried Bradley ( a fight that he was not in control of) when you scoffed at the idea of Mayweather carrying Marquez to the final bell ( A fight Mayweather was in control of). Hypocrisy abounds.

If you just look at the stats like that, then sure, it looks like he's lost his KO power or something. But look deeper and you'll realize there are reasons that these fights didn't end in knock outs. Clottey, Mosley, Marquez, and Bradley have never been knocked out. The first two spent their entire fights on the defensive. Clottey turtled up from the start. Mosley ran and never put himself in harm's way once he realized he couldn't win. Marquez arguably won his fight with Pac. I think he won by a round, but w/e. He's also a tough SOB who is going to be in the HoF when he retires. Bradley has a tough chin apparently, and I felt like Pac was carrying him. My guess at the time was that they didn't want Bradley's career to fall into the abyss, so they wouldn't have Pac destroy him. I didn't even think that they might go even further and have Bradley win. Margarito has only been knocked out twice, and in both fights it was against guys who I would consider to be much harder punchers than Pac. Pac's best weapon was never his punching power. It was his work rate. He would smother his opponent with punches. Eventually he'd knock them out after landing so many left hands. You're entitled to your opinion though. Maybe you're right. Maybe he was on PEDs before and now he isn't, and maybe that's why he couldn't knock out the above fighters. I don't think that's the case though. Do you know how many guys had not been knocked out before Manny knocked them out? Barrera ran from Manny but Manny was still able to track him down....he had the "energy" back then

Let's be honest, the first 3 fighters are pretty big and they don't get stopped or knocked down easily by anyone. Marquez is Marquez and Pacquiao carried Bradley. It's not about PEDs it's just that Pacquiao's one-punch knockout power doesn't translate at WW but he put a hurting on them all bar JMM Manny Pacquaio isn't "anyone." His run from Ledwaba to Cotto was legendary....Once again Clottey was dropped by a Cotto jab, Margarito was brutally stopped by Mosley, and het gets props for dropping Mosley but Manny didn't have it in him to track Mosley and stop him.

lol....Morales was one tough hombre...Pac knocked him out twice And your point is?

So Floyd asks Manny to take the test after the Cotto fight. Team Pac refused at the time. So we have : Clottey W UD 0 KD Margarito W UD 0 KD Mosley W UD 1 KD Marquez W UD 0KD Bradley L SD 0KD This is all coincidence but interesting nonetheless If you just look at the stats like that, then sure, it looks like he's lost his KO power or something. But look deeper and you'll realize there are reasons that these fights didn't end in knock outs. Clottey, Mosley, Marquez, and Bradley have never been knocked out. The first two spent their entire fights on the defensive. Clottey turtled up from the start. Mosley ran and never put himself in harm's way once he realized he couldn't win. Marquez arguably won his fight with Pac. I think he won by a round, but w/e. He's also a tough SOB who is going to be in the HoF when he retires. Bradley has a tough chin apparently, and I felt like Pac was carrying him. My guess at the time was that they didn't want Bradley's career to fall into the abyss, so they wouldn't have Pac destroy him. I didn't even think that they might go even further and have Bradley win. Margarito has only been knocked out twice, and in both fights it was against guys who I would consider to be much harder punchers than Pac. Pac's best weapon was never his punching power. It was his work rate. He would smother his opponent with punches. Eventually he'd knock them out after landing so many left hands. You're entitled to your opinion though. Maybe you're right. Maybe he was on PEDs before and now he isn't, and maybe that's why he couldn't knock out the above fighters. I don't think that's the case though.

He fought the 5 toughest guys in boxing lol....Morales was one tough hombre...Pac knocked him out twice

Clottey - Manny threw over 1000 punches landed many shots couldn't drop him whereas Cotto dropped Clottey with a jab. Margarito - Brutally KO'd by Mosley, Pacman gave him a savage beating but could neither drop him nor break his will. Mosley - Vernon dropped him twice. Manny gets credit for the knock down but could not close the show on someone who was badly hurt. Marquez - Pac knocked him down 4 times before PED's talk, 0 times after Bradley - Manny hit him was many shots but couldn't hurt him in the second half of the fight Let's be honest, the first 3 fighters are pretty big and they don't get stopped or knocked down easily by anyone. Marquez is Marquez and Pacquiao carried Bradley. It's not about PEDs it's just that Pacquiao's one-punch knockout power doesn't translate at WW but he put a hurting on them all bar JMM

He fought the 5 toughest guys in boxing

Clottey - hid behind guard Margarito - broken orbital bone Mosley - knocked down first time in career (?) Marquez - it's Marquez Bradley - carried him Clottey - Manny threw over 1000 punches landed many shots couldn't drop him whereas Cotto dropped Clottey with a jab. Margarito - Brutally KO'd by Mosley, Pacman gave him a savage beating but could neither drop him nor break his will. Mosley - Vernon dropped him twice. Manny gets credit for the knock down but could not close the show on someone who was badly hurt. Marquez - Pac knocked him down 4 times before PED's talk, 0 times after Bradley - Manny hit him was many shots but couldn't hurt him in the second half of the fight

Do we have to go up and down Pac's career to see how many guys had not been knocked out before he got to them? 60 rounds one knockdown scored. Fact!

Clottey - hid behind guard Margarito - broken orbital bone Mosley - knocked down first time in career (?) Marquez - it's Marquez Bradley - carried him :D :Flush: :wave: