If tommy hearns had a granite chin?

Do you think he could beat ray Robinson? Not saying he would, but you can have a granite chin and lose on points.

Angelo Dundee said "Give Tommy Ray's balance and he beats them all". I agree; although Tommy's chin should be improved, he only got knocked out by either the very best fighters (Ray, Marvin) or the very best shots (Barkley). With balance I'd say his physical advantages overcome SRR to a narrow decision.

Well then you believe in something stupid. Was searching the New York Times best seller list the other day for Shakespeare's upgrade...couldn't find him. I guess if you want to apply things across all realms then your right because your living proof the brain in some never improved much since Neanderthal times .

Hearns wasn't chinny he had an alright chin for a 147 pounder. If he would had a granite chin he would have been indestructible. He was beast.

Hearn's chin isnt 'good' its average. - Leonards single overhand absolutely won him the fight.( Fight I ) - Barkley had easily kayoed Hears while a 160lbs Duran ate power bombs from Barkley himself before actually winning if Hearns had a 'good' chin. He would have easily beat Barkley. Duran also had a granite chin...and will to win that fight

Hearn's chin isnt 'good' its average. - Leonards single overhand absolutely won him the fight.( Fight I ) - Barkley had easily kayoed Hears while a 160lbs Duran ate power bombs from Barkley himself before actually winning if Hearns had a 'good' chin. He would have easily beat Barkley.

Im a believer in everything gets better over the generations , . Well then you believe in something stupid. Was searching the New York Times best seller list the other day for Shakespeare's upgrade...couldn't find him.

I didnt say he had a crap chin but his recoop abillity wasn't that great and with Robinson you have to be able to take a great shot even if it hurts and recoop well

Hearns had a good chin.

Yeah but they had really good chins Tommy's is decent he'd have to fight the perfect fight in my eyes to not get his chin touched with anything solid What is with this nonsense about Hearns chin? I see this all the time. Watch his fights, he took some massive shots without going down. His problem was that instead of getting defensive (like every other fighter) he'd stand and bang when he was hurt. And he paid for it a few times. Hearns had a solid chin, but practiced bad habits when hurt.

I think he would beat him as he is.

Absolutely. Hearns is a master Boxer with a thunderous right hand. Add a granite chin and he's indestructible.

Tommy could put a hammer on just about any chin he landed solid on and if he landed on Ray early who knows , the point I was trying to make is those old fighters were just top fighters of their day like the the Hearns and Haglers were of their day , I dont believe they were above them just precursors to next guys that learn from them , if you look at the old fights they were wild as hell and not near the science of the modern greats , Im a believer in everything gets better over the generations , last years champs evolve into next years champs , human nature creates larger than life personas over time , with the equipment today you can analyze old fights and time punches to a 100th of a second and I think people would be surprised how fast the modern fighter gets power to the target . Very well said. Few people have this opinion concerning old heroes and modern stars. That being said, I still think Ray Robinson would stop Tommy Hearns.

Yeah but they had really good chins Tommy's is decent he'd have to fight the perfect fight in my eyes to not get his chin touched with anything solid Tommy could put a hammer on just about any chin he landed solid on and if he landed on Ray early who knows , the point I was trying to make is those old fighters were just top fighters of their day like the the Hearns and Haglers were of their day , I dont believe they were above them just precursors to next guys that learn from them , if you look at the old fights they were wild as hell and not near the science of the modern greats , Im a believer in everything gets better over the generations , last years champs evolve into next years champs , human nature creates larger than life personas over time , with the equipment today you can analyze old fights and time punches to a 100th of a second and I think people would be surprised how fast the modern fighter gets power to the target .

He could probably beat him without it , Ray was not superman there have been more than a few great fighters that would give Ray all he could handle on their best nights , it only takes one clean right shot to put the lights out on anyone , TH had real power , go and watch the fights and take more notice of what you see than what your read in the storys romanticizing the good ol days that turn men into mountains . Yeah but they had really good chins Tommy's is decent he'd have to fight the perfect fight in my eyes to not get his chin touched with anything solid

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Do you think he could beat ray Robinson? He could probably beat him without it , Ray was not superman there have been more than a few great fighters that would give Ray all he could handle on their best nights , it only takes one clean right shot to put the lights out on anyone , TH had real power , go and watch the fights and take more notice of what you see than what your read in the storys romanticizing the good ol days that turn men into mountains .