Mayweather seems to win far too many fantasy fights on here, far more than his resume would suggest he was capable of winning.
So why do so many plump for Mayweather when pitted against the true greats of the sport?
1) Mayweather has yet to lose officially as a pro, (though many had Castillo beating him in their first fight) and this give Mayweather an aura of invincibility.
But as we know a fighter such as JLC gave him hell and should have won their first encounter, but he is not an ATG, yet he caused Floyd all these problems.
2) Perceived ability over Proven ability: As I mentioned in a thread of mine last week, Floyd has benefited from a perceived ability he has, it has not been proven because he has not proved it against truly elite fighters. Much as the same as Bute was being picked to beat Froch by many because of his perceived ability and unbeaten record and because he had looked good against lesser opponents, many people pick Floyd to win fantasy fights for much of the same reasons failing to acknowledge these true greats proven ability not just perceived as Floyd.
3) Much as the same way, people were calling Bute intelligent, ring smart too technical, all these attributes are giving to Floyd, not that they are negative factor in a boxer, they are not but nowadays people seem to over rate them. I remember watching the build up to Spinks vs Tyson and much the same things were being said about Spinks, but people seem to over look these traits in fighters who have heart, passion, tenacity, aggression, will and just brute strength.
4) People overlook great fighters of the past, and because they have not seen them fight or they may have lost some fights they dismiss their talents and the much superior opposition they have beat.
5) Floyd tells people he is the greatest, sadly sometimes this is all it takes for some to believe this.
Mayweather hasnt, Calzaghe hasnt, and Pacquaio hasnt alot of great fighters havent
We dont know if Mayweather has beaten a prime hall of famer. Genero Hernandez is a hall of famer but he was like 32. Ricky Hatton, Corrales and Castillo were in their primes but neither guy has been retired long enough for induction.
You must dont realize how rare it is when two legitmate greats fight in their prime it only happens a few times a generation
when was the last time you saw two great fighters in their prime fight?
Pacquiao has beaten Marco Antonio Barerra.
Pacquiao has beaten Juan Manuel Marquez.
Both prime.
Both legit bona fide HOFers.
So has plenty of great fighters.
because floyd is undefeated even though he has yet to face a legit bona fide prime hall of fame fighter.
That's what floyd & his repugnant fanbase can hold on to.
THEIR LOGIC:
Floyd has never been beaten = he can win any fantasy fight. Ray robinson's been beaten. so ha ray leonard. so has duran. so has everybody except floyd.
Hence, Floyd is the greatest.
Its amazing that floyd & his fan base have complete & utter synchronicity in their way of thought & opinions of themselves.
Quite disgusting really.
A more apt comparison would be Floyd = Calzaghe.
Mayweather hasnt, Calzaghe hasnt, and Pacquaio hasnt alot of great fighters havent
We dont know if Mayweather has beaten a prime hall of famer. Genero Hernandez is a hall of famer but he was like 32. Ricky Hatton, Corrales and Castillo were in their primes but neither guy has been retired long enough for induction.
You must dont realize how rare it is when two legitmate greats fight in their prime it only happens a few times a generation
when was the last time you saw two great fighters in their prime fight?
because floyd is undefeated even though he has yet to face a legit bona fide prime hall of fame fighter.
That's what floyd & his repugnant fanbase can hold on to.
THEIR LOGIC:
Floyd has never been beaten = he can win any fantasy fight. Ray robinson's been beaten. so ha ray leonard. so has duran. so has everybody except floyd.
Hence, Floyd is the greatest.
Its amazing that floyd & his fan base have complete & utter synchronicity in their way of thought & opinions of themselves.
Quite disgusting really.
A more apt comparison would be Floyd = Calzaghe.
JC has two wins better than anything FLoyd has ever done. His win over BH and Lacy. The way he beat Lacy is only something Floyd can dream of.
because floyd is undefeated even though he has yet to face a legit bona fide prime hall of fame fighter.
That's what floyd & his repugnant fanbase can hold on to.
THEIR LOGIC:
Floyd has never been beaten = he can win any fantasy fight. Ray robinson's been beaten. so ha ray leonard. so has duran. so has everybody except floyd.
Hence, Floyd is the greatest.
Its amazing that floyd & his fan base have complete & utter synchronicity in their way of thought & opinions of themselves.
Quite disgusting really.
A more apt comparison would be Floyd = Calzaghe.
The fact he fought Tyson and Holyfield and Vitali negates that.
Bowe would have added to his resume, but Lennox beat better.
What you need to do, is stop bringing up and comparing Bute to Floyd! Reading this Thread, I've broke down exactly why you are so butt hurt with Floyd.
Just because people don't pick Pacquiao to win "Fantasy Fights"; Dont forget the "Fantasy". AND I'm assuming the reason is because Pacquiao lost, KO'D, by bums early in his career.
So fighters like Hatton, Judah, Castillo, De La Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, Marquez, Coralles, or even Ortiz. Half who Pacquiao has faught as well, some before Mayweather, and some after Mayweather.
And yes the 0 does mean something, like it does with most Rankings.
Mayweather has fought legitimate fighters in all weight classes he has fought in; if you don't believe so then the last 5 years were pacquiao fought; 5 out of 10 of the same opponents. Then you would have to consider half of his fight were not of the caliber Pacquiao should have been fighting either.
Nah.... Just was wondering
OK. I do think he beats alot of fighters. I think he is a great boxer and he is dedicated to keeping himself in great shape.
The fact he fought Tyson and Holyfield and Vitali negates that.
Bowe would have added to his resume, but Lennox beat better.
The idiots that make that argument are already factoring in those fights. Lennox couldn't make Bowe fight anymore than floyd could make his contemporaries. They all would have had a better chance to beat floyd had they fought him earlier.
Your argument is like someone saying Lennox Lewis isn't great because he didn't fight Riddick Bowe.
Seen a few of ur post..... Just had to ask..... To u does Mayweather beat every fighter ever from 130-160???
Your argument is like someone saying Lennox Lewis isn't great because he didn't fight Riddick Bowe.
The fact he fought Tyson and Holyfield and Vitali negates that.
Bowe would have added to his resume, but Lennox beat better.
Unproven at the highest level.
And just as Bute people put too much stock in the 0.
Remember this, too intelligent, smart too good technically, things said about Bute, also said about Mayweather in his fantasy fights match ups.
Your argument is like someone saying Lennox Lewis isn't great because he didn't fight Riddick Bowe.
No prime HOF'er rfused to fight Bute so your point is moot. SHane , ODH, Cotto, and Manny all had a chance to fight floyd when they were prime. The only remaining question is when they fight, will manny regret waiting like the other 3.
Unproven at the highest level.
And just as Bute people put too much stock in the 0.
Remember this, too intelligent, smart too good technically, things said about Bute, also said about Mayweather in his fantasy fights match ups.
It doesn't matter, he never fought the fights that could have prove his ability beyond it's current level.
As with Bute, he was used to fighting lesser opposition, looking very good against them, but it a complete different story when you fight a guy who has prove ability on a higher level.
No prime HOF'er rfused to fight Bute so your point is moot. SHane , ODH, Cotto, and Manny all had a chance to fight floyd when they were prime. The only remaining question is when they fight, will manny regret waiting like the other 3.
It doesn't matter, he never fought the fights that could have prove his ability beyond it's current level.
As with Bute, he was used to fighting lesser opposition, looking very good against them, but it a complete different story when you fight a guy who has prove ability on a higher level.
I dont know what you are trying to attempt but its not succeeding
It doesnt matter because you cant think of anyone who he hasnt already beat would prove what he already has
A win over Manny Pacquiao would be great. Beating Martinez for the middleweight title would be huge other than that beating anyone else doesnt do anything for his resume
It doesn't matter, he never fought the fights that could have prove his ability beyond it's current level.
As with Bute, he was used to fighting lesser opposition, looking very good against them, but it a complete different story when you fight a guy who has prove ability on a higher level.
you can say that about a lot of fighter like :chickenboy: and pac
It doesn't matter, he never fought the fights that could have prove his ability beyond it's current level.
As with Bute, he was used to fighting lesser opposition, looking very good against them, but it a complete different story when you fight a guy who has prove ability on a higher level.
Would you please stop comparing Bute with Floyd Mayweather you complete clown!!!!!!