Comments Thread For: Carl Froch Targets Wedding Bells in The Near Future

Also what are you talking about Froch has always had a solid work rate he is known for his stamina the fight didn't even last 5 full rounds and when your opponent is visibly hurt of course your punch output will increase 10 fold, did you not watch Taylor vs Froch round 12 for example? Silly post from start to finish. No he isn't - he stopped taylor renowned for gassing but Kessler outworked him in his first fight. He hurt him in round 2 and it was relentless punching for three and a bit rounds from Froch - his usual stamina - he'd need more of a break in between, but just kept going. The lads watching with me were worried he'd punched himself out after round 3 he put so much in. Proves nothing, just not in keeping with what he's usually like. I'm only telling you what I felt, that I never seen Froch with that kind of constant energy, doesn't mean anything, but it raised eyebrows with a few of the lads watching. Same as gloves - not in keeping with what he normally does, keeping them on, but I honestly don't think he used loaded gloves, but it'll raise eyebrows amongst some because he didn't do what he always does. Going back to the point i was making - this fight aside - there has to be more stringent rules in place for fighters having their gloves taken off straight after the fight in the ring with an official watching wedding florist adelaide, would probably be the most effective for eradicating loaded gloves etc. The former boxing champion, known for his remarkable career and confident personality, hinted that he is ready to take the next big step in his personal life.

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Yes, he should get married like the rest of us. Happiness is not the only thing in life. Fit bird but very annoying, as soon as she opens her mouth she loses her sex appeal, no class. You'd only want to sleep her once, so you have, after that she'd be a head wreck to be around with that whiny voice. http://www.rds.ca/boxe/chroniques/341086.html Seems accusations are getting thrown around in defeat. Whilst, it does seem very strange that Froch didn't take his gloves off when he always does, I don't think there is much in this story. Although - I am shocked, if true, at the still lack of incompetence for people to leave gloves unattended and not have cornermen watch opposing fighters have their hands wrapped. If what Bute's trainer says is true - surely something must be put in place that as soon as the fight ends - both fighters must be escorted to the changing room (after everything's complete) by an independent official and have their gloves taken off in view of whatever sanctioning official's responsible for the fight - in this case the IBF or whomever. It raises suspicions over Carl but I don't believe there was foul play, what I was more shocked at was his new found level of work rate - he's never been a high work rate fighter - but he was like Pacquiao in this fight, that, to me is far more eyebrow raising. Wow, hater because i remember Pac's high workrate in the 3rd Marquez fight................ Not, Styles makes fights, Froch adjusted and had a good ol' tear up, ****s knows what your getting at anyway.

Fantastic response lad. Thank you very much :-)

Lowky - I don't agree with you. His stamina isn't bad, but like I said isn't pacquiaoesque, I don't agree its up on the level he showed on Sat night, a different level of stamina. Quoting so many average shots over 12 rounds over 5 rounds isn't conclusive - numbers don't mean jack when one round can be predominately jabs, and other rounds could be a mixture and other rounds - sapping energy flat out shots. Same number of shots thrown but completely different level of energy needed. However, I made my point as you have yours, we won't agree - so I'll leave it there rather than argue the same points over and over. If there is nothing to argue as far as your concerned why keep on? I've made my point and purely answering yours.

Black Ink Location - Nottingham, England Ok. Fantastic response lad. You are the only person i've come across that has actually questioned Froch's stamina. To bring it up as a suggestion to him possibly doing PEDs perhaps? Quite laughable, but i wouldn't expect anything more from NSB.

Look you are clearly wrong and making yourself look stupid give it up. Froch has world class stamina that's universally excepted in the boxing world. you really need to learn to quote people as well that is not getting personal it makes your reply harder to read its just a block of text with my comment mixed in with your reply and it may be confusing for people who haven't read the whole thread.

How many shots against Ward - were flat out hard shots that drain energy and how many were range finders and jabs because he couldn't land? Its not just about the number of shots but the energy you put into a shot. Do a minute on the bag - of jabs and mixing it up and then do 20 seconds of flat out shots and see what gets you more tired. You guys don't agree - np.

Black Ink Location - Nottingham, England Ok.

You are simply wrong Froch, averaged 69 punches per round in all of his super 6 bouts excluding the Ward fight where his average punch output dropped to around the mid 50s again that is a solid work rate. You really have no grounds to say Froch doesn't posses good stamina he has never looked gassed and has always thrown big shots up until the final bell. I'm saying he doesn't posses stamina consistent with non-stop throwing without a break, like Calzaghe, Pacquiao etc and like he did on against Bute. He always takes breaks, he takes rounds off where he throws less and his stamina goes down and he takes breaks in rounds between bursts of shots. Look at the Kessler fight to see his dips up and down in work rate, same as Johnson. Its not just about how many you throw - but how fast and hard and constant one after the other. How do you quantify that? e.g. There is a difference between throwing 70 shots a round with a lot of flicking jabs in there with breaks and throwing a a lot hard, flat out shots. I have eyes, so do you, if you disagree, fine, I'm not saying he's on anything, just that imo I've not seen him fight like that and it raised eyebrows with the people watching with me. You made your point, if you see nothing to argue then why are you bothering, the more you argue the more there looks like there's something to argue about. If you disagree, fine. I've made mine and am not looking to go over and over it. You saying Glen Johnson outworked Froch is also nonsense Froch averaged 77.2 punches per round, yet restricted Johnson to 52 punches per round (his second lowest output in his 8 copubox tracked fights. Oh and Johnson was 42 not 44 I will not agree to disagree because what you are typing is clearly wrong and needs correcting. Slightly pedantic with the age there, 42 then. The point I was making was obvious. I said he outworked and matched him early and then in the middle - you are talking about punch average - an average over 12 rounds. Not 7 or 8 which is when Johnson started gassing from memory. That means he can throw 10 in one round and 40 in another and you take the average over 12, that isn't constant, hard throwing shot energy, hard energy. You are acting like Froch was throwing way above his average punch output for a 12 round fight he wasn't. And again about the hand wrap stuff if a fighter posts a competent and experienced member of his team in his opponents locker room to observe the hand wrapping as they are entitled to and always should that is enough to stop loaded wraps. Also you need to learn how to quote. It's a forum not a dissertation - no need to get personal. Your punctuation leaves a lot to be desired, as does mine, however, its a forum, i don't check my posts after I written them - loosen up. Sure, lets not take central responsibility for it - lets put it down to the fighter. Fighters already can do what you suggest and clearly it doesn't work, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. You can't believe how many incompetent trainers and seconds there are and, what about the club fighters that can't afford quality seconds. It took Naz richardson to spot Margarito, how many seconds missed it before that? __________________

This SAJ10 guy has no clue. Chin aside, Froch's stamina is his best asset. Froch's ouput in the 5 rounds against Bute was mostly during the final minute of each round. He wasn't non-stop punching his way through the whole 3 minutes as it seems suggested. And it was obvious as to why his workrate picked up from round 4 onwards, seeing Bute off his feet at the end of round 3 and 4, he knew he had him out of there by keeping on him. Your logic is flawed my friend.

Yes, he should get married like the rest of us. Happiness is not the only thing in life. Fit bird but very annoying, as soon as she opens her mouth she loses her sex appeal, no class. You'd only want to sleep her once, so you have, after that she'd be a head wreck to be around with that whiny voice. http://www.rds.ca/boxe/chroniques/341086.html Seems accusations are getting thrown around in defeat. Whilst, it does seem very strange that Froch didn't take his gloves off when he always does, I don't think there is much in this story. Although - I am shocked, if true, at the still lack of incompetence for people to leave gloves unattended and not have cornermen watch opposing fighters have their hands wrapped. If what Bute's trainer says is true - surely something must be put in place that as soon as the fight ends - both fighters must be escorted to the changing room (after everything's complete) by an independent official and have their gloves taken off in view of whatever sanctioning official's responsible for the fight - in this case the IBF or whomever. It raises suspicions over Carl but I don't believe there was foul play, what I was more shocked at was his new found level of work rate - he's never been a high work rate fighter - but he was like Pacquiao in this fight, that, to me is far more eyebrow raising. What are you on about, Carl has always been high workrate, high stamina. The only difference is this fight he did it from round 1, usually he takes a while to get going. He threw 251 punches through 5 rounds vs. Bute right? http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=froch-bute-compubox He threw 266 punches through 5 rounds vs. Ward. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=ward-froch-compubox I couldn't find the exact punch stats for Froch v Kessler but compubox does say he threw an average of 80.1 punches vs Kessler and Kessler threw 56.8. That means Froch threw 961 punches over the fight. Which means through 5 rounds he threw (using averages) 400 punches. http://compuboxonline.com/news.php?news=CompuBox-Analysis%3A-Ward-vs.-Froch&news_id=183 So your theory is wrong. Infact Froch had a lower workrate through 5 rounds against Bute than in both the Kessler and Ward fights.

The fight was stopped in the 5th round Froch trains to go 12 hard rounds and YES Froch is known for having good stamina Froch didn't even throw much in the 4th round untill he visably hurt Bute in the last 30 second of the round, nothing suspicious whatsoever. He doesn't have good stamina - especially not constant throwing energy. He was getting outworked in the early rounds and matched in the middle ones by a 44 year old Glen Johnson until his old legs caught up with him. We'll agree to disagree or we can just argue all day... Also I can't agree with your notion of some official accompanying a fighter after the fight to check his gloves by then the fight is over the damage has already been done that is backwards. I stated that a second should be there to watch the wrapping of the glove - like Naz Richardson when he caught Marg, however, having somebody there after can't do any harm either. e.g. if a second misses wet plaster that hasn't dried when putting the wraps on - you'll catch it when the gloves are taken off. An extra deterrent - you may risk it putting it on when its wet chancing that the second doesn't know what to look for, but if you knew it would be checked when the glove came off, you definitely wouldn't. You are simply wrong Froch, averaged 69 punches per round in all of his super 6 bouts excluding the Ward fight where his average punch output dropped to around the mid 50s again that is a solid work rate. You really have no grounds to say Froch doesn't posses good stamina he has never looked gassed and has always thrown big shots up until the final bell. You saying Glen Johnson outworked Froch is also nonsense Froch averaged 77.2 punches per round, yet restricted Johnson to 52 punches per round (his second lowest output in his 8 copubox tracked fights. Oh and Johnson was 42 not 44 I will not agree to disagree because what you are typing is clearly wrong and needs correcting. You are acting like Froch was throwing way above his average punch output for a 12 round fight he wasn't. And again about the hand wrap stuff if a fighter posts a competent and experienced member of his team in his opponents locker room to observe the hand wrapping as they are entitled to and always should that is enough to stop loaded wraps. Also you need to learn how to quote.

I'd seen a couple fotos of them, thought they were married, she is HOT, but hey, wish them happiness & she stands by him & supports him...

The fight was stopped in the 5th round Froch trains to go 12 hard rounds and YES Froch is known for having good stamina Froch didn't even throw much in the 4th round untill he visably hurt Bute in the last 30 second of the round, nothing suspicious whatsoever. He doesn't have good stamina - especially not constant throwing energy. He was getting outworked in the early rounds and matched in the middle ones by a 44 year old Glen Johnson until his old legs caught up with him. We'll agree to disagree or we can just argue all day... Also I can't agree with your notion of some official accompanying a fighter after the fight to check his gloves by then the fight is over the damage has already been done that is backwards. I stated that a second should be there to watch the wrapping of the glove - like Naz Richardson when he caught Marg, however, having somebody there after can't do any harm either. e.g. if a second misses wet plaster that hasn't dried when putting the wraps on - you'll catch it when the gloves are taken off. An extra deterrent - you may risk it putting it on when its wet chancing that the second doesn't know what to look for, but if you knew it would be checked when the glove came off, you definitely wouldn't.

The fight was stopped in the 5th round Froch trains to go 12 hard rounds and YES Froch is known for having good stamina Froch didn't even throw much in the 4th round untill he visably hurt Bute in the last 30 second of the round, nothing suspicious whatsoever. Also I can't agree with your notion of some official accompanying a fighter after the fight to check his gloves by then the fight is over the damage has already been done that is backwards.

Also what are you talking about Froch has always had a solid work rate he is known for his stamina the fight didn't even last 5 full rounds and when your opponent is visibly hurt of course your punch output will increase 10 fold, did you not watch Taylor vs Froch round 12 for example? Silly post from start to finish. No he isn't - he stopped taylor renowned for gassing but Kessler outworked him in his first fight. He hurt him in round 2 and it was relentless punching for three and a bit rounds from Froch - his usual stamina - he'd need more of a break in between, but just kept going. The lads watching with me were worried he'd punched himself out after round 3 he put so much in. Proves nothing, just not in keeping with what he's usually like. I'm only telling you what I felt, that I never seen Froch with that kind of constant energy, doesn't mean anything, but it raised eyebrows with a few of the lads watching. Same as gloves - not in keeping with what he normally does, keeping them on, but I honestly don't think he used loaded gloves, but it'll raise eyebrows amongst some because he didn't do what he always does. Going back to the point i was making - this fight aside - there has to be more stringent rules in place for fighters having their gloves taken off straight after the fight in the ring with an official watching, would probably be the most effective for eradicating loaded gloves etc.

^^^ Yeah because previously feather fisted Froch stopped previously iron chinned Bute. Also what are you talking about Froch has always had a solid work rate he is known for his stamina the fight didn't even last 5 full rounds and when your opponent is visibly hurt of course your punch output will increase 10 fold, did you not watch Taylor vs Froch round 12 for example? Silly post from start to finish.

Yes, he should get married like the rest of us. Happiness is not the only thing in life. Fit bird but very annoying, as soon as she opens her mouth she loses her sex appeal, no class. You'd only want to sleep her once, so you have, after that she'd be a head wreck to be around with that whiny voice. http://www.rds.ca/boxe/chroniques/341086.html Seems accusations are getting thrown around in defeat. Whilst, it does seem very strange that Froch didn't take his gloves off when he always does, I don't think there is much in this story. Although - I am shocked, if true, at the still lack of incompetence for people to leave gloves unattended and not have cornermen watch opposing fighters have their hands wrapped. If what Bute's trainer says is true - surely something must be put in place that as soon as the fight ends - both fighters must be escorted to the changing room (after everything's complete) by an independent official and have their gloves taken off in view of whatever sanctioning official's responsible for the fight - in this case the IBF or whomever. It raises suspicions over Carl but I don't believe there was foul play, what I was more shocked at was his new found level of work rate - he's never been a high work rate fighter - but he was like Pacquiao in this fight, that, to me is far more eyebrow raising.