Prime Vernon Forrest 147 Vs Floyd @ 147

Floyd never gets hit with the uppercut that demolished SHane. Both have the style to give floyd fits. But to assume floyd would stand still and get hit makes little sense. He beats forrest. If tommy catches him like SHane did, dear god just call the paramedics don't even bother to count. I think Forrest's jab would bother Mayweather but he's simply too big a target and too slow. Forrest was an excellent boxer but I never considered him truly elite, in spite of the win over Mosley. There were a host of fights in his prime where he looked above average at best. The Phillips fight comes to mind. And the Forrest-Mosley rematch was far closer than the original, which people tend to forget. Mayweather is too cerebral, too quick and Forrest gives him too big a target. I see an 8-4/9-3 win for Floyd.

Tommy slugs Floyd. Vernon Forrest? Not a chance. Floyd never gets hit with the uppercut that demolished SHane. Both have the style to give floyd fits. But to assume floyd would stand still and get hit makes little sense. He beats forrest. If tommy catches him like SHane did, dear god just call the paramedics don't even bother to count.

:lol1: this made me laugh!!! on topic...I've ALWAYS said Vernon and Tommy Hearns beats Floyd at WW...I give Ray Leonard a edge over him as well, but not like I do Vernon and Tommy...IMO Vernon's jab and str8 right would control Floyd....I have to admit, I've heard some dudes make some valid points about this fantasy fight and picking Floyd to win it....but I stand firm on my opinion.....but the more I hear dudes debate about this particular match up...the fight gets closer in my head...but I sill see Vernon winning it Tommy slumps Floyd....no question!!!! Tommy slugs Floyd. Vernon Forrest? Not a chance.

Still don't see how that's relevant. 2 things. Oscar is bigger than Shane & Oscar was still pretty good at that time.

A guy who got knocked out and outboxed by Ricardo Mayorga & got a gift decision against a shot to pieces Ike Quartey beats Floyd, lol! boxing doesn't work this way

Please stop talking to me like Ive never seen Forrest fight :lol1: this made me laugh!!! on topic...I've ALWAYS said Vernon and Tommy Hearns beats Floyd at WW...I give Ray Leonard a edge over him as well, but not like I do Vernon and Tommy...IMO Vernon's jab and str8 right would control Floyd....I have to admit, I've heard some dudes make some valid points about this fantasy fight and picking Floyd to win it....but I stand firm on my opinion.....but the more I hear dudes debate about this particular match up...the fight gets closer in my head...but I sill see Vernon winning it Tommy slumps Floyd....no question!!!!

I think Vernon beats him to a unanimous decision

floyd is a small welterweight. he has not had to fight a really good, big welterweight. prime forrest was a LOT better than the dlh he fought. this is a tough matchup for mayweather.

Tough fight for Floyd based on Vernon's style. I can't look at the Mosley fight though and think THAT will happen. We have to think about Floyd's defense even at 147. I say that Vernon may beat today's version of Floyd. But Floyd that entered Welterweight, I'd have to give Floyd an edge.

Floyd would never fight Forest. Forest has the right style and temper to beat Floyd. Styles make fights.

All Floyd WW things are pretty much the hardest things to judge in boxing because he was never the perfect fighter. Meaning early he was more in his prime but he had also moved up in weight very fast and was a much smaller framed/weaker Mayweather. Now he's out of his prime but he's much stronger with a wider frame. If we could fuse the 2 together then I have no doubt he would easily win this fight but you cant do that. I still go with Floyd. Again, when I think of Floyd I have to think of 2 versions. I literally seperate him. I think Forrest probably beats or is a very tough fight with the early WW Floyd. Some of that was also due to Floyd's mentality. I however think the Floyd who fought JMM & espically Mosley beats Forrest. The Floyd that fought JMM was probably physically the best WW version of Floyd. He was solidly built but still had his legs at a high level. He didnt have that dog fight mentality that he now has though so even then he wasnt perfect. P4P I think Floyd is clearly better. Vernon vs early WW Floyd is a tossup but I think the JMM-Mosley version beats Vernon clearly The JJM and Mosley who fought Mayweather were no threat to anyone. Marquez was a lightweight fighting a full welterweight, and foolishlyneglected to build himself upproperly just gaining flab instead of muscle. And Maywegither came in 2 lbs overweught, made no attempt to taskr it off, which was clearly denigatory of Marquez. Mosley was only a quarter of the Mosley who fought Forrest, if that. The Mosley of just before the Forrest fight would have eaten up Mayweather. Maybe not for a few rounds, but the speed and pressure would have been too much and Mayweather would have been running. The Forrest who beat the prime, unbeaten Mosley would have had an easy task with Mayweather who would have been afraid to come within range. It would have been a terrible fight, reminiscent of most of Mayweather's early fights where he always became "defensive"at the first signs of aggression. Mayweather had only 2 good early fights, that I recall, against Hernandez and Augustus. If Augustus had had a punch he could have won, because he laid too many hands on Mayweather for his liking. I don't recall him ever being hit like that. His Castillo fights were bad, the first was worse than the second.

Mayweather in surprising one-sided fashion. ^^^^This should've ended the thread.....

ive always thought this was a fight forrest could win and i dont think otherwise yet. i think id go close decision to forrest. but itd be a good fight.

Mayweather in surprising one-sided fashion.

Style wise Vernon gives Floyd fits. But Mayweather's ability to adapt as the fight goes on would probably earn him a hard fought close decision.

In terms of style, it's a tough matchup for Floyd. I still think he'd win.

I could never pick against Floyd but stylewise Vernon is the type of fighter that could pull it off.

Vernon Forrest was a great fighter and one of my favorites but this will be a 116-112, 117-111 type of fight for Mayweather.

Mosley can be out boxed, Oscar did exactly that in the rematch and Shane couldn't do a thing. How exactly does Mosley force Mayweather to fight his fight? Oscar enjoyed a size advantage & was still close to prime though. Like I said no fighter Mosley's size beat him prime. You reiterated that.

I don't see how that's relevant, I wouldn't expect Floyd to hurt or manhandle a prime Mosley, I'd expect him to pick his spots and box him, I'd pick him to win quite easily. I didn't expect you to. Mosley would have forced Floyd to fight his fight.