Some one posted this in one of the previous threads....Ive always thought about it but I have to agree.Most people add into how likeable a fighter is when considering their place among the greats, but really it has no creedance.
Of the previous p4p kings Mayweather(who never lost and is still active Manny got p4p by default), Roy Jones, and Pernell Whitaker none of them got the praise of Pacquiao and they were more dominant and illustrated more skill in the ring
Fighters who were undoubtedly the best of their time like Roy Jones and Pernell Whitaker didnt recieve half the hoopla Pacquaio does and both beat their closest rivals of their time. Both never lost a clear fight til their mid 30's and dominated their eras and people always have something to say about their style or competition. Jones and Floyd Mayweather beat more champions than Manny, and Whitaker proved he was the best of his era by fighting the best
I think its his fans that overrate him, but most hardcore fans and other people dont....some of his ardent fans assertions are a bit far fetched and overboard
And you're a peasant and a fool.
If he wanted to be a pro at 16, then he had to accept the realities that come along with being a pro.
So are you saying that Manny had no amateur background??????????
Stop making excuses. I'm tired of you and people like you attempting to make exceptions for Pacquiao. First he's too small. Now he was too young.
You know, Filipinos are the only ones who have had it hard in the world. The majority of the top athletes in American sports all come from hard luck stories. Blacks weren't even allowed to play, and once they were they had to be exceptional with no exceptions. Unlike Pacquiao, they never asked for special treatment. They just asked for a chance and rose to the top without special conditions like catchweights and padding their record.
Could you imagine if Jackie Robinson asked to be pitched to underhand?
Or if Jesse Owens asked for a head start in the dash?
Legends .. or at least the legitimate ones are made from people being beyond the norm under legitimate conditions.
That ain't Manny Pacquiao, peasant.
:lol1: :lol1: Brother Jay stays exposing the less knowledgeable and stubborn.
I haven't seen any boxer who is exempt from proving he's clean. But you contradict yourselves by making Pac so special. I thought you guys are saying he's overrated, he's fought inferior fighters... Man, you don't need stringent testing on the kind boxer you've been describing. It's making you guys look real stupid.
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There is no contradiction at all. I think Pacquiao is an overrated 1 dimensional mental midget little d1cked amateur boxer yada yada yada, ALSO I think he is dirty. Where is the contradiction? It doesn't matter if you are a journeyman or the number 2 p4p fighter in the world, Prove you are clean. I am making you look real stupid.
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I haven't seen any boxer who is exempt from proving he's clean. But you contradict yourselves by making Pac so special. I thought you guys are saying he's overrated, he's fought inferior fighters... Man, you don't need stringent testing on the kind boxer you've been describing. It's making you guys look real stupid.
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Yes you do. Its like when Brady Anderson of the Orioles hit 50 homers.
This is what it said on wikipedia. I've seen it on other boxer profile bios of Pac in the past.
Amateur boxing career
At the age of 14, Pacquiao moved to Manila and lived, for a time, on the streets. He started boxing and made the Philippine national amateur boxing team where his room and board were paid for by the government. Pacquiao reportedly had an amateur record of 64 fights (60–4).
So because Pacquiao is overrated he should be exempt from proving he is clean? Derrrrrrrp a derrrrp
I haven't seen any boxer who is exempt from proving he's clean. But you contradict yourselves by making Pac so special. I thought you guys are saying he's overrated, he's fought inferior fighters... Man, you don't need stringent testing on the kind boxer you've been describing. It's making you guys look real stupid.
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Kindly enlighten me on Pacquiao's amateur record please. And try not to include his street fights for 1 pesos.
It's was like 65-5 or something. Get your boxing up br0
Saying Pac is overrated, then demand the most stringent testing, (ie, zero cut off, blood tests, can't train in the Philippines, OST spies are required), ever demanded of a one-dimensional boxer will never make any sense. It's just making Floyd fans look envious, hate-filled, fanatical...
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So because Pacquiao is overrated he should be exempt from proving he is clean? Derrrrrrrp a derrrrp
What did you tell me again? Did you say your butt hurt Pac is FOTD and your so insecure you cant make a clean break from this thread? YOu cant tear yourself away from this thread you keep coming back to it, with reloaded and brotherjay your crew.
so....you're admitting what I said is true then? I know its true cause you just said that I'm insecure, after I called you out on it (not difficult to see). They call that projection, hugh.
at least come up with your own shit if you wanna have an argument. a challenge or a rebuttal would be nice. but I guess with your insecurities comes high blood pressure and anxiety and on and on, so i guess you gotta keep your cool, or you might hurt yourself...
clinging on and recycling things people say is the first step of insecurity. there IS another way!!
what do I make of that? I just told you...
What did you tell me again? Did you say your butt hurt Pac is FOTD and your so insecure you cant make a clean break from this thread? YOu cant tear yourself away from this thread you keep coming back to it, with reloaded and brotherjay your crew.
wow, whats with the pshyco analysis? You asked me my knowledge on butt hurt and i enlightened you with my findings.
But now you are asking my understanding of insecurity. Well individuals like yourself and a few famous others, camp your butt hurt butts on these Pac troll bait threads. What do you make of that?
what do I make of that? I just told you...
Saying Pac is overrated, then demand the most stringent testing, (ie, zero cut off, blood tests, can't train in the Philippines, OST spies are required), ever demanded of a one-dimensional boxer will never make any sense. It's just making Floyd fans look envious, hate-filled, fanatical...
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were you always insecure? or did it start coming on gradually as you became older and had to be in social situations?
its not permanent, you CAN help yourself...
wow, whats with the pshyco analysis? You asked me my knowledge on butt hurt and i enlightened you with my findings.
But now you are asking my understanding of insecurity. Well individuals like yourself and a few famous others, camp your butt hurt butts on these Pac troll bait threads. What do you make of that?
Kindly enlighten me on Pacquiao's amateur record please. And try not to include his street fights for 1 pesos.
he did have amatueter fights bro..but you cant find any videos of it..
68 wins and 4 losses was his record if i remeber correctly...
Yes i know about butthurt. Floyd fans and butthurt go together like fish and chips, horse and carriage, birds and bees. not to mention FOTD and Pacquiao.
were you always insecure? or did it start coming on gradually as you became older and had to be in social situations?
its not permanent, you CAN help yourself...
Pacquiao had an amateur record...........
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Kindly enlighten me on Pacquiao's amateur record please. And try not to include his street fights for 1 pesos.
if there is anyone here that knows about butthurt, you are the man to talk to...
Yes i know about butthurt. Floyd fans and butthurt go together like fish and chips, horse and carriage, birds and bees. not to mention FOTD and Pacquiao.
Well, these troll threads made by floyd, loving Pac haters are not scientific methods of analysis, and do not represent general consensus of opinion, rather a vocal butt hurt minority.
if there is anyone here that knows about butthurt, you are the man to talk to...
you know all those accolades are democratically voted theirs not a cut and dry scientific method. theyre popularity contests not gold medals.
Well, these troll threads made by floyd, loving Pac haters are not scientific methods of analysis, and do not represent general consensus of opinion, rather a vocal butt hurt minority.
Winning with a handicap is not quite the same not all wins are equal , history will look at the handicaps very hard , today is the hype stage , while history and time is the truth stage .
History wont give a **** about the "handicaps", History will say he is a champion in 8 different weight class. History will say Pac's resume is better than floyds, History will say Pac is the fighter of decade
you know all those accolades are democratically voted theirs not a cut and dry scientific method. theyre popularity contests not gold medals.
no they are not...these accolades were based on what a fighter has done within a year if it's FOTY ..within a decade if it's FOTD...