I don't know if its an interesting matchup for you guys but in fantasy, I dont think bradley beats margarito at 147, margo takes it to him with pressure and enough foot speed to reach timmy.. his hands may be slow but he throws a lot of punches in his prime.. Timmy wouldnt have the power to even push margo away.. and we all know pac is better than prime margo at 147. pac just toyed that @ss at 150, which cotto even had a little of a hard time with at 154 if it hadnt been stop.
whats your take guys?
Tim Bradley sucks. He couldn't beat Margarito now, let alone in Margarito's prime.
yeah. i know that. i just reposted this because a number of guys were bashing me on this thread that i dont know **** because I think margo would tax his ass.
This notion of needing the power to keep Margarito off to win is retarded, almost as if people haven't watched this sport long enough. You can clinch, smother your opponent, or turn him, make him have to reset himself, and Bradley is more than capable of doing all of that. Bradley will also get under Margarito's punches and work the body. Tim's body punching, conditioning and defense is still superiors to Cotto's.
Is not retarded at all because you need power to keep Margarito away. You think a natural 140 pounder will be able to clinch a guy like Margarito who comes in over 160 pounds and is 5'11? Hell no and Bradley is not Mosley who would use clinchs and speed to disrupt Margarito's offense. Bradley is a 5'6 guy with decent defense, below average power and is not that great fighting going backwards. Margarito would run him out of the ring without much touble. This is a bad style match up for Bradley.
BTW lol at Bradley being a better body puncher than Cotto.
Its crazy that alot people pick a 147 Bradley to UD a prime Marg. Prime as in up to and pre-Cotto @147.
Bradley's fight with Abregu was just not that impressive- speed and power wise. While I don't question Tims ring smarts and stamina. He would be overwelmed and get hurt by Marg's come forward style. 6-7 rd KO. IMHO. Now if Tim had more showings at WW, then a better comparison could/would be made.
Can't blame anyone for thinking that way. Bradley looks so bad sometimes you wonder how the guy has accomplished as much as he has. He's got some of the ugliest technique at times... It's just gross. Just sloppy.
yes.. i really dont like his technique...
Can't blame anyone for thinking that way. Bradley looks so bad sometimes you wonder how the guy has accomplished as much as he has. He's got some of the ugliest technique at times... It's just gross. Just sloppy.
bradley is a beast and if you'd paid attention to his career, he's fought bigger guys, fought through trouble, and ALWAYS found a way to win, unanimously in most cases.
a fight with him and margarito, again, bradley would find a way to out point margarito, i believe fairly easy too, bradley's ring generalship alone would be enough for him to handle margarito's plodding forward style.
now, you put him in there vs a loaded gloved, with 100% confidence in knowing that he has an edge, and bradley gets mauled like cotto, or cintron...... but thats when he knew he had a little extra going on.
bottom line, style wise, bradley beats margarito, as far as the rest of the factors, each play a vital role, but the same margarito that pacquiao fought, bradley would beat, unanimously.
Margarito woud walk Bradley down and ko him before the 9th round. Bradley is not a slick boxer/counter puncher and has no power so he has no chance of keeping Margarito off him. Margarito would come in over 160 pounds + 5'10 and you put that against a 5'6 Bradley that would come in at 152 it would just be too much. If Bradley had power it would be a different story.
wait...wha? :eek: Do u really believe that?
Bradley, Ortiz, Berto, Marquez won't even have balls to call out huge Marg even at this point, bro. It is what it is.
Give me a clue, speed, stamina, styles, etc. How would Bradley go about fighting a rampaging bull who walks through punches. Show me.
Bradley is faster, much faster than Margarito, he'll tag him from outside & move away while Margarito plods. He'll circle slightly & duck inside Margarito's punches & let em fly to the body & head & dart away while Margarito plods, he'll hold when Margarito has the advantage. Rinse and repeat. And he has the stamina to do it all night, easy work of the shot version Pacman beat.
We've yet to see Bradley's stamina really be tested because he hasn't really been in trouble against any fighters. Holt was the closest he came to being in "trouble". Makes it hard to imagine him being worn down.
Margarito is a tough fight in his prime for most guys just because he's next to impossible to stop. Mosley was able to do it with sheer strength and punching power. He made Tony look like his ***** all night. Bradley couldn't do that.
If I had to choose though, I'd pick Bradley. He's tough enough that I think he could outpoint Marg even without hurting him. I think he could basically do what Cotto did (even in the first fight) but continue for all 12 rounds because of superior stamina and his determination.
Bradley ud, easy too.
Give me a clue, speed, stamina, styles, etc. How would Bradley go about fighting a rampaging bull who walks through punches. Show me.
This thread is about Bradley vs Margarito. Question you should be contemplating on is what could Bradley have done against the Margarito you call shot that Pac fought? Could Bradley have done more than what Pac did in that fight? Can Bradley KO shot Marg? Can he even win by UD?
Walk me through the steps on how Bradley could have done more than what Pac did in that fight? Show me.
Bradley ud, easy too.
Taking blows does not equate to being prime, or close to it. You should think. Mosley took a trashing too, so that means he wasn't shot as well to you I presume. I guess since Oscar didn't go down he was healthy too.
This thread is about Bradley vs Margarito. Question you should be contemplating on is what could Bradley have done against the Margarito you call shot that Pac fought? Could Bradley have done more than what Pac did in that fight? Can Bradley KO shot Marg? Can he even win by UD? He would be murked by Marg, if you ask me.
Walk me through the steps on how Bradley could have done more than what Pac did in that fight? Show me.
Canelo just fought a shot Mosley. Nobody gave a hoot. Not Bushbaby.
Bottom line: The Marg Pac fought >>>>>>>>Bradley, Berto, Marquez, Ortiz...
That's a lie, period.