Does Ward have an argument after tonight?

how? he wasn't the one to beat bute? just cause froch tKOed bute doesn't mean ward could. and bute had the balls to fight in the UK... ward is scared *****less just leaving Oakland! c'mon folks... Ward beat froch in Jersey not Oakland. It's funny to see fans and b1tcjazz writers hop on froch d1ck.

I'd still like to see Ward-Kessler II. Hopefully Ward will take a defence outside of CA. california didn't have nothing to do with that, chief. cant imagine why anybody would want a rematch of that fight. it's not going any other way simply because kessler beat allan green :rofl: andre ward won almost every minute of every round. the only guy i know who wants a rematch is battlingkessler aka battlingnelson and he loves kessler.

it gives much more weight to a win when the losing fighter goes on to do great things, but you really shouldn't be putting that much stock in it not enough to consider him that much better.

On a side note, Why can't European fans seem to remember that Ward completely out classed Froch in Jersey, which is about as neutral as it gets aside from Vegas??? And two of the scorecards actually seemed to favor Froch far too much in that fight.

Well to be fair, he already has had an argument to be ahead of Sergio Martinez, but who cares??? Last night just proved that Bute should have indeed proven himself against a Top SMW first, he had his shot, and he got beat down. Oh well. I'm sure Ward-Bute could still happen down the line if Bute were to get some good wins, but he's still yet to beat a Froch/Kessler fighter yet. Would like to see Froch-Kessler II.

I take it you agree with me then?? Yes, was just adding to what you said.

This is why it pisses me off when boxing fans say ''what happened to the best fighting the best''. How the fuck is that sh*t rewarded when the likes of Bute leapfrogged fighters who actually beat the best their division had to offer. He should have been ranked behinds Ward, Froch and Kessler. I take it you agree with me then??

He has been my "#1" since he won the Super Six already. Better wins than anything Floyd/Pac/Donaire/Sergio have done in almost 2 years.

Ohh they compare alright. They have the fans & are ppv stars. Ward cannot compete with that. Look at Pacman. Margarito, Mosley, lost to Marquez. Even our great boxingscene still has him number 1. But then again I heard they had Bute over Ward at 168, lol!! This is why it pisses me off when boxing fans say ''what happened to the best fighting the best''. How the fuck is that sh*t rewarded when the likes of Bute leapfrogged fighters who actually beat the best their division had to offer. He should have been ranked behinds Ward, Froch and Kessler.

I'd still like to see Ward-Kessler II. Hopefully Ward will take a defence outside of CA.

Ward-Froch in a small ring in Nottingham. WAR COBRA!

Boxing fans can be so full of **** sometimes, they will discredit a fighters win if that fighters shows that he is not that good in later fighters yet when a fighter shows that he is that good after losing a bout they act like giving credit to his conquer is an absurdity. In my eyes Ward's stock hasn't risen because I knew that Bute was not in his class but for people who pushed Bute as the one to beat him, his greatest challenge etc. things should change.

This. Even before now, Ward just cleaned out his division, top fighter after top fighter. Now he's fighting another top fighter How do the other dudes compare? Ohh they compare alright. They have the fans & are ppv stars. Ward cannot compete with that. Look at Pacman. Margarito, Mosley, lost to Marquez. Even our great boxingscene still has him number 1. But then again I heard they had Bute over Ward at 168, lol!!

Ward is my #1 pfp already. Before last night. His last couple years are better than Floyd's & Martinez's & definitely Pacman. This. Even before now, Ward just cleaned out his division, top fighter after top fighter. Now he's fighting another top fighter How do the other dudes compare?

He's the 2nd best fighter in the world IMO. Only Mayweather is more skilled all-around.

Ward is my #1 pfp already. Before last night. His last couple years are better than Floyd's & Martinez's & definitely Pacman.

Would ward dominate and stop Bute? We don't know they haven't fought.

I think what he is trying to say is last night showed the gulf between him and the rest of the division. http://4closurefraud.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/captain-obvious.jpg

I think what he is trying to say is last night showed the gulf between him and the rest of the division.

.....what exactly did Ward do last night?