Bute gone; ginger is next.

Good man. I knew Froch was stopping Bute. I thought he'd have to come from behind to do it though. i wasnt expecting that, but i hadnt seen much of bute so was just guessing really.

And if Alvarez actually beats Williams, people will just say Williams was done. The difference is that with Alvarez, people know he has potential but that he needs to prove it against top tier fighters first, which means Williams is a good start and good fight. With Bute, people were actually saying Ward "ducked" him, even though Bute had never had a real good or big win. And people were actually thinking Bute would whoop Froch and had a good shot to beat Ward.

no i had froch on points. check the betting thread. Good man. I knew Froch was stopping Bute. I thought he'd have to come from behind to do it though.

Hey, didn't you have Bute beating Froch?? no i had froch on points. check the betting thread.

It doesn't matter. Paul Williams gets hit so much that my head starts hurting when I watch him fight. The guy has zero defence and Canelo is going to hit him a lot, and when he hits him, he's going to jump on him and put his punches together which is something that Lara didn't do. I think he's also a physically stronger guy than Lara. Williams just isn't smart enough to beat him. He only has one style and doesn't know how to do anything else. He's not going to be able to overcome a younger, physically stronger, faster, better co-ordinated, smarter and more versatile boxer like Canelo, who has also taken much less punishment than him. If Paul was a guy who had good defence and knew how to fight smart in addition to his current attributes, then I would give him the edge due to his size but he doesn't have those things which is why he's going to take a brutal beating come September. Like him or not, Canelo is just a better boxer. Canelo isn't a defensive master himself. He hasn't proven a thing against any fighter of note. He also isn't faster than the Punisher. Matter of fact he's slower than dirt. He's 5-9 at best, short reach, no head movement, & has $h!tty stamina. He won't know what to do against the Punisher.

2 thing fundamentally wrong with this long paragraph. 1. Lara is southpaw, Canelo is orthodox. 2. Canelo isn't as good as Lara, period. It doesn't matter. Paul Williams gets hit so much that my head starts hurting when I watch him fight. The guy has zero defence and Canelo is going to hit him a lot, and when he hits him, he's going to jump on him and put his punches together which is something that Lara didn't do. I think he's also a physically stronger guy than Lara. Williams just isn't smart enough to beat him. He only has one style and doesn't know how to do anything else. He's not going to be able to overcome a younger, physically stronger, faster, better co-ordinated, smarter and more versatile boxer like Canelo, who has also taken much less punishment than him. If Paul was a guy who had good defence and knew how to fight smart in addition to his current attributes, then I would give him the edge due to his size but he doesn't have those things which is why he's going to take a brutal beating come September. Like him or not, Canelo is just a better boxer.

nah, its the skinny twig next. Hey, didn't you have Bute beating Froch??

if mexico, GBP, and HBO can shut the **** up about his red hair and "he's only 21" then i'd probably be a fan. can't stand the over-sensationalizing going on with him... he's just an average fighter to me.

nah, its the skinny twig next.

Paul Williams isn't just going to lose this fight, he is going to get knocked the f*ck out. We saw what Lara did to him and while Lara is a more technically skilled boxer than Canelo, all he was doing was taking steps back and throwing the left hand, the same thing over and over and over again, and he was landing every single time he threw it. I'm expecting the same thing to happen here except it will be the right hand and Canelo won't just back up and coast like Lara did, once he hurts Paul, he will put them together and try to finish him. Williams has a very low boxing IQ and doesn't have any defence. People keep mentioning his height and reach but it means nothing if you don't know how to use it and he doesn't know how to use it. Don't be suprised if he gets caught with a punch that he doesn't see and then the lights go out. The guy has taken an awful lot of punishment in his career therefore it's highly delusional to think that he will just walk right through Canelo's punches for 12 rounds. It's not gonna happen. He's going to get beaten badly. I think it will be somewhat competitive and entertaining though. 2 thing fundamentally wrong with this long paragraph. 1. Lara is southpaw, Canelo is orthodox. 2. Canelo isn't as good as Lara, period.

Paul Williams isn't just going to lose this fight, he is going to get knocked the f*ck out. We saw what Lara did to him and while Lara is a more technically skilled boxer than Canelo, all he was doing was taking steps back and throwing the left hand, the same thing over and over and over again, and he was landing every single time he threw it. I'm expecting the same thing to happen here except it will be the right hand and Canelo won't just back up and coast like Lara did, once he hurts Paul, he will put them together and try to finish him. Williams has a very low boxing IQ and doesn't have any defence. People keep mentioning his height and reach but it means nothing if you don't know how to use it and he doesn't know how to use it. Don't be suprised if he gets caught with a punch that he doesn't see and then the lights go out. The guy has taken an awful lot of punishment in his career therefore it's highly delusional to think that he will just walk right through Canelo's punches for 12 rounds. It's not gonna happen. He's going to get beaten badly. I think it will be somewhat competitive and entertaining though.

I thought Bute was going to beat the hell out of Froch. In fairness to Bute I think he tried to join the tournament and he was champion enough to come to Froch's territory after trying to get a fight with Ward. So he was willing to fight the best and he got crushed. I wish him well. Maybe I am wrong again but I think Canelo is underrated. Lots of people picked Mosley to beat him. I think he will beat anyone they put him in with. He was getting trashed for not fighting tough guys but he is trying to fight them now. He offered a fight to Kirkland but Kirkland's shoulder needed more time to heal so he is fighting the still dangerous Williams. I think he beats Williams easily. Then bring on the best and he will beat them. Cotto,Mayweather, I double dare you to fight Canelo. Ortiz, you think he was given a tittle, then try and take it from him.Lara is the biggest threat to Canelo in my opinion because Lara has such a good straight left. But I have faith in Canelo to beat him. Time will tell. But it is time to quit trashing him for not fighting the best because he is fighting the best starting with Williams. Yeah, after how many bogus title defenses. But yes you were wrong with Bute & you will be wrong when ginger bucks up to the Punisher.

I thought Bute was going to beat the hell out of Froch. In fairness to Bute I think he tried to join the tournament and he was champion enough to come to Froch's territory after trying to get a fight with Ward. So he was willing to fight the best and he got crushed. I wish him well. Maybe I am wrong again but I think Canelo is underrated. Lots of people picked Mosley to beat him. I think he will beat anyone they put him in with. He was getting trashed for not fighting tough guys but he is trying to fight them now. He offered a fight to Kirkland but Kirkland's shoulder needed more time to heal so he is fighting the still dangerous Williams. I think he beats Williams easily. Then bring on the best and he will beat them. Cotto,Mayweather, I double dare you to fight Canelo. Ortiz, you think he was given a tittle, then try and take it from him.Lara is the biggest threat to Canelo in my opinion because Lara has such a good straight left. But I have faith in Canelo to beat him. Time will tell. But it is time to quit trashing him for not fighting the best because he is fighting the best starting with Williams.

In september. Get outa here you fair weather fan you. Your kind isn't welcome here. I kid, I kid. I wish I could go... If he beats Canelo he'll continue fighting and I could get to one. He has a chance. We know what Paul will bring, the mystery is how will Canelo deal with a guy who can take a shot and wont stop coming. Paul is going to train his ass off for this fight this is his chance.

This fight could get ugly for GBP........ When is the fight actually? In september. Get outa here you fair weather fan you. Your kind isn't welcome here. I kid, I kid.

This fight could get ugly for GBP........ When is the fight actually?

Alvarez will be lost when Paul eats his shots and throws 5 in return.

It's real easy to sit there and say that as well though isn't it? He was what? 19 when he fought Jose Miguel Cotto? And twenty when he fought Hatton. What had you or I acheived by 20? :slap: All that's fine. But his accomplishments are still fabricated, made up, really gbp not his.

you sound like a short, fat f*ck midget living off your mother in LA HAHAHA kirkland got stopped, so what. kirkland has wins against top ter competition (better wins then the no neck canelo i would even argue)............this is boxing. you have your ups & your downs (especially when you're fighting elites which CANELO knows nothing about) he's been exposed of fighting losers, or all out shot to sh*t opponents. how does molina NOT get the canelo fight after he beat the crap out of cintron? how did cintron end up getting it? YOU SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS CIRCUS? well i would argue that you have sh*t standards............ BTW i don't know if canelo is 21........I'm 23 and he looks older then me. in fact he looks 25. many mexican champs have done it before............but lets say he is 21. holds no water.......shot to sh*t opponents are shot to sh*t opponents. when he steps up it will only hurt him. ....that was uncalled for, Reported

Yup, that's right, 1 overhyped fighter splattered, come september, the other is gonna get it. Resume matters. Win lose or draw, the fighter that fought the elite , if he isn't shot always has the advantage. Williams is done. Accept it.