2 things from the Froch - Bute fight.

i've read numerous comments and articles online saying white brits don't support him because he's a pakistani and a muslim. he's also hated on for being an arrogant cunt that has plenty of retarded things to say about his fights and ricky hatton. Again, you heard wrong. Khan has his people who dislike him, he also has a huge following. Much more than Carl Froch. You ask anyone in the UK who Amir Khan is, whether you're a Child, Teen, Young adult, Middle aged, or 90 years old, they will know who he is. You ask 90% of people in the UK who Carl Froch is, they most likely won't have heard of him. Amir Khan is a star in the UK. Carl Froch is the polar opposite.

You heard wrong Khan is a much bigger star in the UK than Froch. (not that he deserves to be) i've read numerous comments and articles online saying white brits don't support him because he's a pakistani and a muslim. he's also hated on for being an arrogant cunt that has plenty of retarded things to say about his fights and ricky hatton.

lol no chance a 34 year old career super middleweight can make 160 Froch is a big SMW. Froch has great conditioning and brilliant stamina, because he doesn't need to cut weight and he stays in shape in between fights. Cutting weight at this stage in his career would be a dumb move Froch will be moving up in weight if anything not down. He could make it. I never said he was going to move down as there is no need for him to do it and it wouldn't do him any good, but if need be, he could fight at 160. According to some of them last night, he was under 165lbs at points in this camp. At times like that, even at peak condition, proper carb-cycling and macros could allow him to hit 160 before having to take any of the drastic measures and worry about rehydration problems.

Bute has always been able to hit, why is this a suprise to anyone? As I've always said, he is a 1 trick pony. He has a great counter uppercut. Magee tagged the hell out of him before he pulled it out. Miranda was competitive with him before he pulled it out, etc etc. He's got a great counter upper, it turns lights out. Up until that point, he never impresses.

They were discussing this in depth last night, Froch can easily make 160. He stays at 170lbs in his off-months and weighed in a few days before the fight at 167 with all of his training gear on. Froch walks around at less than basically every middleweight, let alone super-middle's. lol no chance a 34 year old career super middleweight can make 160 Froch is a big SMW. Froch has great conditioning and brilliant stamina, because he doesn't need to cut weight and he stays in shape in between fights. Cutting weight at this stage in his career would be a dumb move Froch will be moving up in weight if anything not down.

i heard nobody gives a crap about khan over there. You heard wrong Khan is a much bigger star in the UK than Froch. (not that he deserves to be)

no way froch can make 164 lbs without seriously impairing his abilities. At 160 Froch would be a dead man walking. I agree about Ward, he wins, but his style is boring and ugly to watch. he doesn't have one fight that I would rewatch. They were discussing this in depth last night, Froch can easily make 160. He stays at 170lbs in his off-months and weighed in a few days before the fight at 167 with all of his training gear on. Froch walks around at less than basically every middleweight, let alone super-middle's.

Agreed. Froch is currently the UK's best fighter. Your average Joe still doesn't know who Carl Froch is in the UK. He also rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way with his arrogance while he was still completely unproven.

Carl Froch has suffered from a lack of respect in Britain. The average joe knows Haye, Khan ect. People SHOULD now know Froch if they don't already. He should be respected, man's earned it. Agreed. Froch is currently the UK's best fighter.

Some fighters get better from every experience and style of fight, hopkins is like this and froch is definatelly like this aswell, he learnt from dirrel that he neesd to start quicker, he learnt from the kessler fight you cant always walk down your opponent you need a plan B, The abraham fight gave him confidence in his boxing abillity and from the Ward fight taught him that he needs to A throw faster crisper punches and not look for the knockout in every punch, B to pump a consistent jab when theres no action or any confusion etc, and from the looks of it C To be slightly cuter and use more head movements, footwork etc, Carl is still a WIP and far from a finished goods to the optimum of his abillity he could become a really great fighter if he added the klitschko style 1,2(which hes built for but doesnt use) to his unpredictabillity and ever improving inside game

actually i will correct myself slightly- there is some technique in what froch does in order to be able to land shots so hard. what i meant was the technique he uses is 100% focussed on power and nothing else at all. he was stood square on right in front of bute throwing shots from lower chest height, coming from about 10 rows back, chin as high as you like. ah well it worked.

2. Frochs hand speed, massive improvement from the Ward fight where he lunged in slow. He really did feed off the crowd well, he was throwing 15 shot combos and they were all crisp quick punches. yeah, it was great to see that he is capable of instead lunging in fast. "crisp" is not quite the word i would use, certainly solid and certainly fast and powerful but they were swinging and lunging. he got the job done in impressive fashion and looked a real beast doing it but it disappoints me to see his total lack of finesse, well technique at all really. he was going on about mcCracken giving him the tactics etc for the fight- what "get out there son and swing for the hills"? i coulda told him that. full respect for the impressive victory, not many could do that, but i was cringing to see it at the same time, people saying about how bute looked amateurish, well true but then what does that make froch?- bar brawler on coke?

i heard nobody gives a crap about khan over there. You heard wrong.

From the first round on, I said he liked like **** tonight. (Bute) Even though he hasn't really been tested before, I gotta think something bothered him last night. Because I really do think that he's better than that. Maybe it was the croud or whatever, who knows, but he's not THAT bad. I hope there'll be a rematch. I wouldn't mind the rematch tbh, I guess there's nothing to lose and if Bute does even marginally better it still has the potential to be a classic fight. I'm sure people wont mind the idea of Bute potentially being KOed again in font of his fans, so it might still generate interest. his team is probably shook to the bones at the prospects of that tho.... once they clear their heads they will realize that his ability to command a top fighter to come to Canada is out the window now, he will almost certainly have to go on the road to win any kind of belt now and already having home field secured for another shot at the title is what should matter imo. If there was no rematch clause and he was younger, I'd say take the KO and go back to the drawing board...but where would does he go now that is better than a rematch? Normal circumstances with no rematch being forced that type of loss would set him back at least 1yr in trying to earn another shot...might as well take the shot if it's already signed.

From the first round on, I said he liked like **** tonight. (Bute) Even though he hasn't really been tested before, I gotta think something bothered him last night. Because I really do think that he's better than that. Maybe it was the croud or whatever, who knows, but he's not THAT bad. I hope there'll be a rematch.

actually... bute head movement was good... he could've used better foot movement, but he was being the aggressor and so he couldn't turn froch as he was stalking froch I thought froch was slapping more than usual... I don't think he was closing his fists to get a little more speed on his punches I never thought bute would beat froch easily, cause bute never been in the ring with the kind of competition that froch has... but I thought bute would do a lot better than this. The Kessler rematch would be a good scrap to watch, but I don't wanna see him fight AA again. Froch should fight Ward again, but not on the West Coast... maybe in Nottingham... Ward is a world champ... not a Oakland champ. Sergio martinez??? Sergio is too small... and Froch can't get to 164. Froch could easily make 164, could easily make 160, but would never happen anyway sergio would rather call out much smaller men but would not dream of fighting anyone slightly bigger, Anyways Kessler vs Froch II thats what its all about! Andre Ward might be the man in the division but he will never be a superstar, he will never put bums on seats outside of his home town, granted he is a very talented fighter but he just isnt marketable and know one gives a **** about him despite losing to Ward Froch is the man at 168

Carl Froch has suffered from a lack of respect in Britain. The average joe knows Haye, Khan ect. People SHOULD now know Froch if they don't already. He should be respected, man's earned it. i heard nobody gives a crap about khan over there.

I still don't see how anyone could think Bute beats Froch & easy. I for 1 knew Bute was always the bigger man, fought bums, had a suspect stamina & chin. I actually feel bad for him, being lied to like they did.

He got Bute early and had him second guessing his movements. He took control from the get go and I enjoyed it.

Carl Froch has suffered from a lack of respect in Britain. The average joe knows Haye, Khan ect. People SHOULD now know Froch if they don't already. He should be respected, man's earned it. agree. froch is a good fighter he should get more exposure