**OFFICIAL Froch vs Bute DISCUSSION THREAD**

Bute was highly overrated. UNDEFEATED RECORDS = SUSPICIOUSNESS. "show me a undefeated record & ill show you somebody who hasnt fought anybody," -whitey bimstein This quote stands the test of time..... undefeated records need verification by way of great prime opposition. There exceptions to that equation Mayweather is a 'perfect' example absolutely not. no exceptions. Floyd falls into the same category. The man has yet to face & beat a legit PRIME hall of fame fighter. Just look at what happened to floyd when he finally started facing a somewhat boderline hall of famer albeit a past prime one in cotto... NO EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE. NOBODY HAS QUALIFIED FOR ANY EXEMPTIONS. Floyd is in the same boat as marciano, calzaghe, ricardo lopez, and any undefeated fighter.

That ass whuppin reminded me that what's SUPPOSED to happen isn't what always happens. We can speculate all we want to, but the fighters still have to go in there and fight. I thought Bute would find a way to force a slow-paced bout and pull out a close decision, but Froch was having none of that. It's like Bute had a "Hit Me" sign on his face cuz Froch couldn't miss at one point. The counter-puncher was getting counter-punched lol, ****in hilarious. I really think the rematch would turn out like Lopez/Salido, where it's a little more back and forth but with the same end result. Bute lacks the punch resistance and the chin to keep up with Froch. Oh yea? Good thing we have you here then. Tell me, what is supposed to happen in the Pacquiao/Bradley fight, and the Haye/Chisora fight, since you are the expert on what should, and shouldn't happen?

Great display for Froch. Very happy for him. Absolutely blew Bute away, wasn't expecting it to go like that to be honest. The atmosphere in Nottingham sounded excellent :boxing:

I think it's close either way. Maybe at 168 Froch edges it...Maybe? And, overall with Hopkins on it at 175 Calzaghe edges it. Really now I wish that fight would have happen. At the time I didn't blame Calzaghe for not fighting Froch. He was talking so much and hadn't really proven himself at that time. But, now damn, I wish it would have happened. At 168 I would say certainly. Overall, probably Calzaghe.

I honestly don't think so. Look at his resume. As it stands, probably the best of all time at 168. If I'd want to nitpick I could take his resume apart a bit.But I guess you could do that to most. HOF just seems a bit over the top. Or maybe not.

Lately after every Froch fight I wish more and more that Calzaghe would have taken his bait. Question to me is, who has the better resume?

That ass whuppin reminded me that what's SUPPOSED to happen isn't what always happens. We can speculate all we want to, but the fighters still have to go in there and fight. I thought Bute would find a way to force a slow-paced bout and pull out a close decision, but Froch was having none of that. It's like Bute had a "Hit Me" sign on his face cuz Froch couldn't miss at one point. The counter-puncher was getting counter-punched lol, ****in hilarious. I really think the rematch would turn out like Lopez/Salido, where it's a little more back and forth but with the same end result. Bute lacks the punch resistance and the chin to keep up with Froch.

Almost feel sorry for Lucian. Where do you even go from here? There's no way he beats Abraham, Kessler, Direll or Ward and there's no way on earth he wants to eat any more of those shots from Frotch in a home-town humiliation. I wonder how many of those 16,000 seats are empty in Montreal in his next fight? Well he can go back to montreal and either take the rematch if he wants to or back to staying at home and fighting mediocre competition, I think he wanted to reassure him that he is a good fighter and thats the reason why he left montreal to come over to england.

Kudos to Froch. He came into the fight ready to take Bute's head off and Bute wasn't ready for it. Froch was ready to take any punches and proved himself once again. I'm a fan of Bute but after this display it's hard to see him take the belt back in a rematch. Btw this fight doesn't justify a rematch IMO. You can't aply the same tactics you had in 9 title defenses at home in a fight with a very determined opponent in his homeground. Bute should of had a plan B, instead he failed when tested, made it obvious that he doesn't have a good defense and went in survival mode fast. I hope that in case of a rematch he will learn from this defeat and improve just as he did after the first andrade fight but I have my doubts.

No question, Froch should go into the HOF in the future.

I know many think Bute is overrated and just got exposed but boy oh boy did Froch look spectacular. He really did look pretty quick tonight & that was punch perfect. What a performance. The Cobra strikes again. ''The bookies know sh1t about boxing'' - Carl Froch! I actually thought he looked like crap. had his hands down and came in head first a lot. Bute is just straight up garbage and it's nice to know the hype train is over.

hey , ray. here's a couple quid , go suck on a meat pipe , you fecking rent boy. You Mad? Lol.........

HOF might be a bit to much though as you mentioned earlier. Or not? Irondanhamza has a very legit argument for Froch having the best resume at 168. But i feel that is more telling perhaps of how bad the division is historically. With that said, Froch career is not over yet and some of his wins can prove to be much greater than they currently are. I'd say he's borderline hof. Just like Cotto and similar guys.

HOF might be a bit to much though as you mentioned earlier. Or not? I honestly don't think so. Look at his resume. As it stands, probably the best of all time at 168.

Given Carl Froch is the anti-athlete it's very impressive how far he's gone. Shows how important hard work and toughess really is.

Most of the British fans dislike Froch because back before he'd done anything he acted like he was an ATG. He should have waited a bit until he opened his mouth! But yeah, never, and I mean NEVER in my life has someone proved me wrong like Carl Froch. Other than Johnson, I have picked him to lose every fight he has had since Taylor, including Taylor. He's the epitome of old school, tough fight after tough fight and he just find's a way to win. We all call Ricky Hatton an overachiever. Carl Froch has taken his place. Still in shock of how amazing he was tonight. I ended up rooting for him as the fight went on! HOF might be a bit to much though as you mentioned earlier. Or not?

Almost feel sorry for Lucian. Where do you even go from here? There's no way he beats Abraham, Kessler, Direll or Ward and there's no way on earth he wants to eat any more of those shots from Frotch in a home-town humiliation. I wonder how many of those 16,000 seats are empty in Montreal in his next fight?

I thought you hated him, but I didn't want to say so without being sure. :lol1: People love to talk about how "old school" other boxers are, and Froch is the only one in the sport right now that is truly old school. Most of the British fans dislike Froch because back before he'd done anything he acted like he was an ATG. He should have waited a bit until he opened his mouth! But yeah, never, and I mean NEVER in my life has someone proved me wrong like Carl Froch. Other than Johnson, I have picked him to lose every fight he has had since Taylor, including Taylor. He's the epitome of old school, tough fight after tough fight and he just find's a way to win. We all call Ricky Hatton an overachiever. Carl Froch has taken his place. Still in shock of how amazing he was tonight. I ended up rooting for him as the fight went on!

That was a great fight. Kinda sucks now though as it puts 168 in limbo because no one wants to see a Froch-Ward rematch, would have been cool for an undefeated Bute to fight Ward next. Apparently he wasn't nearly good enough.

Absolutely. I first "hated him" but then i began to respect him so much that i had to love him. :lol1: Maybe. He's fought some really good fighters but the value of his wins are hard to judge and he lost against the two proven bonafide 168lbs fighters. But he's the man for sure. As it stands right now he probably has the best resume of all time at 168. Ward will most likely overtake him but for now, it has to be Froch. Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Abraham, Johnson, Bute. Taylor, Abraham and Bute all favourite's to beat him. Got to be a HOF place for him after tonight.