Berto's torn bicep...

Gabriel Montoya™ ‏@Gabriel_Montoya Andre Berto Update Part 1 of 3: Sources have informed me that Berto's urine sample has tested positive for ultra-trace amounts cont. #boxing Gabriel Montoya™ ‏@Gabriel_Montoya Cont. Part 2: ultra-trace amounts of Nandrolone in the low parts per trillion range #boxing. Gabriel Montoya™ ‏@Gabriel_Montoya Andre Berto update part 3: ultra-trace amount levels are consistent with contamination not intent. #boxing Gabriel Montoya™ ‏@Gabriel_Montoya This is excellent news for Team Berto. I wonder if there is time to save the fight? #boxing

I just can't get my head around why he would opt to use Deca-Durabolin (Nandrolone) It stays in your system for upto 18 months! You're not getting around testing not to mention it has a load of negative side effects etc Didn't he have joint issues with his knees? Might explain why buts its sheer stupidity.

Article written in Feb on the boxing tribune. The writer wrote, torn biceps were well known in the steroid era of baseball and wrote, Berto torn bicep may have been from that.... http:// theboxingtribune. com /2012/02/buck-buck-brawwk-ii-duck-and-cover-the-southpaw/

I'm going to give Berto the benefit of the doubt for one reason, the steroid he has in his system so outdated even the regular testing methods can catch it, and it last in your system a really long time..Why would he take something like that purposely to try and cheat..Just doesn't add up.. You see...that's what I'm saying. I don't see how someone walking into a fight with random testing will go out of their way to risk being caught and exposed. I might be going off on a limb here, and will sound hell-a naive, but I really think Berto took a supplement that had an illegal ingredient without him knowing it. And please, don't mistake me for a Berto Stan. I'm just a boxing fan, looking at the entire situation and trying to make sense of it all. If anything, I think these two recent events (Peterson and Berto) will serve to make boxers more aware of what they are taking regardless of intent.

so u use a ALT to make a thread that you know is ban worthy??? ban-worthy my foot, this stuff needs to be aired out and discussed, it's something that threatens the essence and credibility of the sport there doesn't need to be 100 threads on it but one or two here and there is the least it deserves

I'm going to give Berto the benefit of the doubt for one reason, the steroid he has in his system so outdated even the regular testing methods can catch it, and it last in your system a really long time..Why would he take something like that purposely to try and cheat..Just doesn't add up..

Yes......................... That is incredibly stupid.

So they ban people for talking about things that are relevant in the boxing world today? Also this is the only thread (or was when I checked) on the main page about steroids. Not to mention the search function is absolute garbage and you cant even search the term 'Berto'. Yes.........................

We are sick and ****ing tired of repeatedly deleting the same old crap about steroids, gay this and that, cheating, polls about who's cheating, who believes those who say they're not cheating, etc. POST IN AN EXISTING THREAD ABOUT THE SUBJECT OR DO NOT POST. THERE WILL BE NO WARNINGS ISSUED. DON'T BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU'RE BANNED WHEN YOU DO IT. __________________ http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=550485 You need to get off of your high horse Larry. NOBODY is accusing ANYBODY of anything. The topic is a result of a legitamit question that came to mind, and one I thought worthy of discussion. If you follow the thread many of the members who responded had some very insightful comments on the matter. All except you of course. Coming in here acting like a fool. Either add something constructive to the discussion, or get the hell out.

We are sick and ****ing tired of repeatedly deleting the same old crap about steroids, gay this and that, cheating, polls about who's cheating, who believes those who say they're not cheating, etc. POST IN AN EXISTING THREAD ABOUT THE SUBJECT OR DO NOT POST. THERE WILL BE NO WARNINGS ISSUED. DON'T BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU'RE BANNED WHEN YOU DO IT. __________________ http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=550485 So they ban people for talking about things that are relevant in the boxing world today? Also this is the only thread (or was when I checked) on the main page about steroids. Not to mention the search function is absolute garbage and you cant even search the term 'Berto'.

How is this ban worthy? We are sick and ****ing tired of repeatedly deleting the same old crap about steroids, gay this and that, cheating, polls about who's cheating, who believes those who say they're not cheating, etc. POST IN AN EXISTING THREAD ABOUT THE SUBJECT OR DO NOT POST. THERE WILL BE NO WARNINGS ISSUED. DON'T BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU'RE BANNED WHEN YOU DO IT. __________________ http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=550485

so u use a ALT to make a thread that you know is ban worthy??? How is this ban worthy?

so u use a ALT to make a thread that you know is ban worthy??? What are you talking about? Why is it "ban worthy?" And what the heck is an Alt?

No he passed two VADA tests before the injury. Nandrolone is in your system for a while and so he used it after. It's most likely he tried to speed the recovery along IMO. That was James Toney's excuse when he got busted for Nandrolone in 04 for Ruiz. yeah that makes sense I been hearing lots of rumors about him not being ready for June 23rd

he's really stupid. I knew something as up when he accepted a ortiz rematch so quickly after tearing his bicep. no way he could have gone into the ring after tearing it so quickly. DUMB

To be completely honest, I never expected Berto to test dirty. And now that he did, I'm like, "What the heck happened?" he always seemed like a straight up dude. If anything, I had my suspicions about Ortiz. So, for Berto to test positive and Ortiz to test clean kind of got me a little shook. Haha! A few weeks back I remember someone asking if torn muscles were common injuries amongst people who juice. So it kind of got me thinking. But y'all are right, he did pass that first round of tests. Just goes to show that things ain't always what they seem I guess... :-/

so u use a ALT to make a thread that you know is ban worthy???

No he passed two VADA tests before the injury. Nandrolone is in your system for a while and so he used it after. It's most likely he tried to speed the recovery along IMO. That was James Toney's excuse when he got busted for Nandrolone in 04 for Ruiz.

I don't know how nandrolone would have anything to do with his injury I believe his contaminated supplements excuse because he went through the last round of testing for the 1st fight without testing positive and I think the fight got canceled a week or so before the event

nah dont think so,think it was just a regular injury