Don't think this one has been asked before (I searched the threads before posting).
Does Amir Khan actually pose a more difficult style match up for Mayweather than Manny Pacquiao does?
Khan has a better jab than Pacquiao, he's taller, rangier (4 inches more reach than Pacquiao), less powerful, about equal footwork, equal defense, equal speed. But Pacquiao seems to have that phantom power which could be the deciding factor.
Tactically, they're both trained by Roach so the game plan would probably be similar. Most of Roach's fighters seem to fight in a very similar way, sort of like a stick and move, ambush style. So, is Khan a tougher fight for Mayweather, or is Pacquiao?
khans new conditioning trainners has completely changed how khan trains and his diet... after hearing his conditioning trainer on the radio today im sure khan will look like a beast in his next fight.
but mayweather skills and boxing iq on another level speed and power can get you so far skills are what pays in the end
I don't think so..I also don't think pacquaio style is that tough for Floyd either..IMO Idk who'd be tougher but I think floyd stops khan and gets a unanimous decision over pacman.
Im still miffed about this Khan good jab thing. If Khan had a good jab, he would have beaten Peterson (testosterone boost or not). He would not have any losses. If Khan had a jab and any sort of brain, I think he would already be in the p4p running.
Khan has a worse chance of beating Floyd than Pac. I also believe neither does, but at least Manny has some power in his punches. I dont believe any Roach trained fighter can beat Floyd.
Khan does have a world class jab. It's one of the main weapons he used to beat Judah and Paulie fairly easily. Put simply, without that jab I think Khan could have been in trouble with both those guys so while I agree that Roach's training has got plenty of holes in it, especially when it comes to inside work, at least he's got Khan using his jab very well.
Both Manny and Khan need someone to teach them a better inside game, I seriously don't think Roach is going to do it.
Pacquiao can't utilize his offense well when his opponents show him movement and move to his right, hence
The last two boxers (Mosley and Cotto after the knockdowns ) showed these moves, one ran for his life losing in a one sided beat down and the other was tkoed. To beat Pac you have to fight like Marquez meaning you have to take a risk and absorb some sick punishment from Pac as well. This movements (punch then run) won't win you in a fight just like what Mosley and Cotto showed. Marquez stand in the center but did a lot of movements waiting for Pac to punch so then unleash his counterpunch in combinations. Doing this trick will also give Pacquiao time to counterpunch your counterpunch that is why the Marquez fights were close. If Marquez did in the first fight what Mosley and Cotto did against Pacquaio, Absolutely there will be no the trilogy.
Good point. It is fast and disruptive, but not very authoratative. If he had an authoratative jab he would have been able to keep Peterson or even Maidana in check to be real. Don't know how Khan's jab is supposed to keep Mayweather in check when it couldn't keep Peterson and especially the crude slugger Maidana in check.
Khan did keep Peterson and Maidana in check for portions of the fight with the jab. Also Judah and Paulie were victims of being kept on the jab. I think you guys are underestimating the jab slightly, it is a very good jab. But the guy is a LWW, it's not a heavyweight jab like Wlads so that he could control pretty much the whole fight with just that one punch. That's an unreasonable expectation for a 140lber simply due to the weight. Higher weight classes can do that but the lighter weight classes aren't going to win solely with the jab.
What I'm saying is that it's a key punch you need in the whole arsenal against Mayweather and Khan does have it. He'll need more than just the jab though, he'll need his speed, movement, increased power (which will happen at 147 presumably) among other factors.
It's been said quite a few times by Steward, Tarver, Jones and a number of others that you need a good jab to be effective against Mayweather. Cotto showed some effectiveness, as did Castillo and of course De La Hoya.
Khan has a very good, fast jab already and I remember an interview with Jones Jr saying that Khan is the one guy who could give Mayweather problems. And that's coming from Roy, only a few months ago, after the Peterson fight but before it was discovered Peterson was cheating in the fight too.A good jab is one way to trouble Floyd but not the only way. Roy Jones picked Pacquiao to beat Floyd. Peterson was dishonest not to admit he had the testosterone implant but apparently it just brings his level of testosterone up to that of an average man giving him no advantage at all and that's from Khan's strenth trainer.
Khan doesnt have a good jab tho. He just flinches it out with no power at all.
On top of that, he is an idiot.
Good point. It is fast and disruptive, but not very authoratative. If he had an authoratative jab he would have been able to keep Peterson or even Maidana in check to be real. Don't know how Khan's jab is supposed to keep Mayweather in check when it couldn't keep Peterson and especially the crude slugger Maidana in check.
Neither one of them will be a tough fight. Jus sayin'.
if neither of them are tough, why does floyd think one of them is soooo good that he's using steroids even though he doesnt have a single shred of evidence while continually calling him overrated, one dimensional, too small, and easy work?
Jus sayin...
Im still miffed about this Khan good jab thing. If Khan had a good jab, he would have beaten Peterson (testosterone boost or not). He would not have any losses. If Khan had a jab and any sort of brain, I think he would already be in the p4p running.
Khan has a worse chance of beating Floyd than Pac. I also believe neither does, but at least Manny has some power in his punches. I dont believe any Roach trained fighter can beat Floyd.
Don't think this one has been asked before (I searched the threads before posting).
Does Amir Khan actually pose a more difficult style match up for Mayweather than Manny Pacquiao does?
Khan has a better jab than Pacquiao, he's taller, rangier (4 inches more reach than Pacquiao), less powerful, about equal footwork, equal defense, equal speed. But Pacquiao seems to have that phantom power which could be the deciding factor.
Tactically, they're both trained by Roach so the game plan would probably be similar. Most of Roach's fighters seem to fight in a very similar way, sort of like a stick and move, ambush style. So, is Khan a tougher fight for Mayweather, or is Pacquiao?
That's all good and I do agree with all of that but Pacquiao can't utilize his offense well when his opponents show him movement and move to his right, hence I don't see him doing squat to Floyd. Khan at least has size, speed, a pretty good jab and because of that alone I see him giving Floyd a tougher fight, in the end though Floyd dominates these two.I respect your opinion. If you are referring to the Mosley fight, Pacquiao won every round and winning rounds wins fights. I think Pac had an off night against Marquez and still won but Marquez and Floyd are different fighters in the way they counter punch. A lightning fast lefty who throws a ton of punches, comes in at angles, has a great chin, and never gets tired, is going to give Floyd a rough night. Floyd is not as fast as he used to be. Cotto won a round or two and Pac is lots faster and throws twice as many punches as Cotto. Khan has yet to beat a welterweight and has a weak chin. Floyd KOs him no problem.
There is really nothing phantom about Pacquiao's power. His punches have great speed and he turns his body into the punches so the punches have power. Mosley started that phantom stuff I guess. Pacquiao is faster and stronger than Khan with better stamina and better technique.Pacquiao hits harder,throws more punches,and takes a punch much better than Khan. Pacquiao is the bigger threat by far.
That's all good and I do agree with all of that but Pacquiao can't utilize his offense well when his opponents show him movement and move to his right, hence I don't see him doing squat to Floyd. Khan at least has size, speed, a pretty good jab and because of that alone I see him giving Floyd a tougher fight, in the end though Floyd dominates these two.