if arum dies does may vs. pac get made??

I.e: Mayweather vs. Cotto.

The stadium and cut stuff was bulls**t, you know it, Many knows it, Manny's team knows it. Who ever generates more revenue per fight based on PPV and Box Office should get the higher split, whatever the % is. Or if it's THAT close, have it be 50-50, i could careless. But why are people forgetting that Arum already said, even after the split issue happened, that the fight 100% could not happen on May 5th because he had to build a stadium and that Manny's cut wouldn't be ready??? And why are people forgetting that Floyd, according to Larry Merchants' post fight interview after the Cotto fight, is offering Pac 60-40 with a guarantee as well???? He's offering 40 million flat or 60-40 with his normal guarantee that he'd get from Arum. I don't care one woay or the other. If they agreed on 50-50 fine. And if they decided to add the revenue based on PPV and Box Office that both generate per fight from their first mega-fight to now, that's fine too. Here is a link that states that Arum was thinking about an outdoor stadium for March 2010. The stadium was to generate more money. If your a business man, it sounds like a smart idea. Right? ...Instead Floyd fans made it be an excuse. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4715684 Still, Manny said, OK for May 5th on condition its 50/50 split. "To all of my fans…Mayweather just needs to agree to and accept a 50 percent split, and if he does, then the fight will go through. He’s the one who needs to agree,” http://www.mp8.ph/news/official-statement-to-his-fans-i-will-fight-may-5th-3/13062 The big issue was Floyd's "I want all the PPV money" That is the major roadblock ..... and if they negotiate again, that will be the roadblock. ONLY FOR FLOYD FANS WILL THEY THINK THE ROADBLOCK IS GENERATING MORE MONEY BY BUILDING AN OUTDOOR STADIUM!!! ..... but continue believing that if it makes you feel better about Floyd!

IMO it would happen right away and I believe that Floyd would even take a 50/50 split because Floyd and Todd have such a great relationship. Floyd just doesn't want to give Bob any money.

Probably, I've always said "boxing will improve after Don King and Bob Arum pass on". Oscar will take over and he will have more respect for the sport than those scumbags (because he was a fighter). Look at all the BS matchups golden boy offers though. And the corruption will be as rampant as ever. Oscar want to maximize profits. IT's the same devil with a different face.

Do you think without Arum around that Pac would accept 40% split in the PPV revenue, with whatever his normal guarantee would be??? Not a chance in hell to be honest. The only reason Pac would ever even say such a (dumb) thing in public or to media is the same reason he said "No problem" to drug test issues before they were resolved. Because he's trying to score points and salvage his image along his countrymen. Same thing with Floyd. He made claims he was 100% willing to fight pac, all he had to do was take the test. Now that's resolved, it's about the money. IT's one roadblock after the other with these two. Pac will never and frankly shouldn't accept less than 50%. Even if he statistically only deserves 49% it's just such a roadblock it's never going to happen without 50/50 unless Pac goes broke or loses. If the testing was due to "he's not the boss of me, not the commission etc etc." then imagine what kind of degrading thing it would be to accept less than 50%. They're both egomaniacs. Neither guy would ever take 49%. Even if Bill Gates came out and said he'll guarantee they get to split $200 million Floyd would not agree to it if it meants he got 49% of it and Pac 51%. Because of pride. Doesn't matter he would make more money.

Probably, I've always said "boxing will improve after Don King and Bob Arum pass on". Oscar will take over and he will have more respect for the sport than those scumbags (because he was a fighter).

hard to believe it will ever happen. if it was going to happen it would have happened already. any time you hear floyd talk about pacquiao, all you hear is self preservation, health and ali. who is going to pay his bills etc etc...... bob arum only wants to match pacquiao with top skank fighters because he is a dickhead of the highest order. fcuk it, it would probably have been a shi t fight anyway.

People haven't forgotten about how silly Arum and Pac looked but it's overshadowed by Floyds ultimately killing the prospect of this fight happening by not agreeing to 50/50. Basically Floyd did everything right in regards to PR and was getting praised both by fans and media left and right. Then he killed it all by demanding a bigger cut. Any sane person would see this for what it is. A mess in which all participants own a large part of the blame. It's silly to try to justify Floyds ego-trips while trying to crucify Pac and Arum for being equally retarded with other roadblocks. Cliffnotes: Be unbiased. See beyond the bull**** and don't nughug or pick and chose which arguments is most suitable to your cause. They're all to blame.

like Arum disappearing is suddenly gonna make PAC accept 0% split in ppv revenue Arum is a roadblock, that's agreed upon...but let's not make it seem like Floyd or even PAC are begging to fight each other Do you think without Arum around that Pac would accept 40% split in the PPV revenue, with whatever his normal guarantee would be???

Floyd fans logic: Arum wants to make more money by building a stadium .... it's bad ... Arum is a $#%#%!! Floyd wants all PPV money: Floyd deserves it. Arum also wanted the stadium back in 2009 when the deal was almost completed. It was not an issue then and shouldn't be now .... its just an excuse made by Floyd fans. The stadium and cut stuff was bulls**t, you know it, Many knows it, Manny's team knows it. Who ever generates more revenue per fight based on PPV and Box Office should get the higher split, whatever the % is. Or if it's THAT close, have it be 50-50, i could careless. But why are people forgetting that Arum already said, even after the split issue happened, that the fight 100% could not happen on May 5th because he had to build a stadium and that Manny's cut wouldn't be ready??? And why are people forgetting that Floyd, according to Larry Merchants' post fight interview after the Cotto fight, is offering Pac 60-40 with a guarantee as well???? He's offering 40 million flat or 60-40 with his normal guarantee that he'd get from Arum. I don't care one woay or the other. If they agreed on 50-50 fine. And if they decided to add the revenue based on PPV and Box Office that both generate per fight from their first mega-fight to now, that's fine too.

I seriously don't even care about this fight anymore. I mean, don't me wrong, I'd still watch this fight if it ever does go down, but until then, meh...

Stop telling tendentious lies. Pacquiao's specialist said the cut would take 6 months (an obvious approximation) to heal, and he could not even spar before mid-April (which was 5 months). As for the "new" stadium, Arum made a valid and acceptable point that with a 40,000 seat stadium rather than a 19,000 arena, more fight fans who couldn't afford the expensive seats would be able to attend, and it would make more money. The stadium was a pre-fab able to be errected in about 6 weeks. The site and plans were already approved. You have legitimate, if weak arguments. Why spoil them with outright, misleading distortions?? Floyd fans logic: Arum wants to make more money by building a stadium .... it's bad ... Arum is a $#%#%!! Floyd wants all PPV money: Floyd deserves it. Arum also wanted the stadium back in 2009 when the deal was almost completed. It was not an issue then and shouldn't be now .... its just an excuse made by Floyd fans.

Stop telling tendentious lies. Pacquiao's specialist said the cut would take 6 months (an obvious approximation) to heal, and he could not even spar before mid-April (which was 5 months). As for the "new" stadium, Arum made a valid and acceptable point that with a 40,000 seat stadium rather than a 19,000 arena, more fight fans who couldn't afford the expensive seats would be able to attend, and it would make more money. The stadium was a pre-fab able to be errected in about 6 weeks. The site and plans were already approved. You have legitimate, if weak arguments. Why spoil them with outright, misleading distortions?? You're trolling right???

Still, if one fighter with common opposition for the most part and on a per fight basis generates that much more, he should get a higher split. If it's that close, 50-50 is fine. In all seriousness, I have no problem with 50-50, but I don't really have a problem with Floyd thinking he deserves more because he generates more bones per fight. Back to the original question, if Bob Arum wasn't in the picture, there's no doubt it'd be a hell of a lot easier to make the fight. Before the split issue came up, we had Bob saying he didn't know who to contact, Manny's cut was too bad to fight 6 months later, and that he needed a different stadium to host it. And even after the split issue happened, he still said even if they agreed on the split that it was 100% not going to happen on May 5th. So in regards to the most recent negotiations for the fight to happen May 2012, the split issue wouldn't have resolved all things. Stop telling tendentious lies. Pacquiao's specialist said the cut would take 6 months (an obvious approximation) to heal, and he could not even spar before mid-April (which was 5 months). As for the "new" stadium, Arum made a valid and acceptable point that with a 40,000 seat stadium rather than a 19,000 arena, more fight fans who couldn't afford the expensive seats would be able to attend, and it would make more money. The stadium was a pre-fab able to be errected in about 6 weeks. The site and plans were already approved. You have legitimate, if weak arguments. Why spoil them with outright, misleading distortions??

Why should you guys agonize so much in your tortuously, twisting labyrinthine "solutions", as if you were a general staff planning life-and-death contingency pre-emptive attacks on the neighbouring 57 countries. It might increse your brain"activity" but is surely must raise you paranoic and conspiracy0theory levels to dangerous heights...... What???? I was just saying that's a basic simple solution.......doesn't really take that much thought to find a simple solution to this stuff.

If it's so marginal, than they should add up all the revenue of PPV's and Box Office that both have generated once they became mega-stars, the Oscar fights, and see who makes more per fight. Do the split like that, it's the fairest way. If it's THAT close, do 50-50. And if one sells that much more per fight, whatever the %'s are, do the split like that. Why should you guys agonize so much in your tortuously, twisting labyrinthine "solutions", as if you were a general staff planning life-and-death contingency pre-emptive attacks on the neighbouring 57 countries. It might increse your brain"activity" but is surely must raise you paranoic and conspiracy0theory levels to dangerous heights......

Nope the will never happen as long as floyd will not dropped his 100-0 demand. You do that, right or wrong (whatever your opinion is), he's offering 60-40 to Pac right??? In the post fight interview with Merchant after the Cotto fight, Merchant asked Floyd "Are you willing to come down off, what you say is your strong position, that you have to get 60% against Pacquiao, when you are likely to have huge PPV numbers"??? He's offering 40 million flat to Pac or a guarantee and 60-40. He's not just offering the 40 million. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP3qBjuJpLk&feature=related

arum has destroyed and ruined many many lives the most hated figure in boxing the reason floyd gets love is that he broke from arum and heped golden boy become more dominant nothing nice to say about the guy I agree...:boxing:

I blame Pacquiao and Mayweather. To be honest....I got over this fight a long time ago. Both fighters will go down in history as all time greats, but both will forever be remembered as duckers.

Who knows??? But I know Manny's cut and stadium issues wouldn't be there..... Why do people forget that Bob Arum said even after Floyd said no 50-50, that the fight couldn't possibly happen on May 5th??? The fight could have happened on May 5th only of the bad cut healed over a month sooner than his specialist expected. nd healing time is different for each individual and each cut.