They are both from Golden Boy and Ortiz can easily move up 7 pounds, dude is big. Also Ortiz called Canelo a paper champ in an interview and was rooting for Mosely against Canelo. Who you guys think will win? I got Canelo by bloody stoppage or Ortiz quitting in the late rounds..
True this sucks for ortiz! 2 training camps for nothing!
Not all bad, Ortiz was coming off a ko loss. Might be better for his career that this happened.
id like this fight, Ortiz and the June 23 card is still ON, maybe he can fight Vanes on June 23 and then move up to 154 on Setp 15 for Canelo, take on Mayweather in a rematch!
i dont know why everyone is hyping up canelo..
i realized that this forum is full of bandwagon riders..
nonetheless, canelo HAS not impressed me at all.. In any of his fights.. he has stamina issues.. ortiz would beat him from pillar to post.. im not a canelo hater, just a realist..
GBP would also never match them up.. for the same reason they wont match up ortix vs khan..
khan is flashy, and fast, but hes a Pre-Madonna. GBP knows if he gets hit by vic, its LIGHTS out..
too soon to make. ortiz needs to be coming off good wins and gbp would need some good time to promote this. also, ortiz is fighting next on showtime, alvarez is an hbo fighter. this won't happen. at least i would hope not. alvarez should fight 154 lbers and ortiz should fight 147 lbers. maybe in the future when ortiz moves up this can be a possibility.
ortiz should take some kind of tune up or stay busy fight against a decent 147 lber that showtime can approve of and then wait for gbp to try and make a fight with alexander or malignaggi happen later in the year.
Easy win for Ortiz...A lightweight Cotto made Canelo do the chicken dance lol...Ortiz hits way harder than cottos brother
You do know that was like 2 years ago and Canelo was like 19 years old. Oh and Maidana made Ortiz quit like a Biatch and Canelo hits way harder than Maidana and Canelo is used to fighting guys only 15 pounds above Maidana's weigh.. LMAO
Easy win?? GTFOH Canelo would make him quit and cry about how hard he was being hit.. LMAO
Easy win for Ortiz...A lightweight Cotto made Canelo do the chicken dance lol...Ortiz hits way harder than cottos brother
I wasn't referring to just the Mexican demographic.
to the none Mexican demographic Ortiz is more known.
even if Berto was overhyped ... who has Canelo beat thats better than an undefeated prime Berto?
this could be a big fight if it gets promoted correctly
Maybe you are right but it would be a good fight with huge numbers, IMO Canelo would destroy Ortiz..
Ortiz needs to aim for the big names (Pac, Cotto, Mayweather II) so yeah he'll probably need a tune up. Make it happen Golden Boy...easy win for Ortiz
Easy win?? GTFOH Canelo would make him quit and cry about how hard he was being hit.. LMAO
You think Ortiz is more known in the American Market, than Canelo? NAH Canelo is a big draw in America becasue of the huge Mexican and Mexican American communities that support him more than Ortiz..IMO Berto has always been overhypped, who was Bertos biggest win before the Ortiz fight? Collazo.. Golden Boy needs to cash out on Ortiz before he quits again..
I wasn't referring to just the Mexican demographic.
to the none Mexican demographic Ortiz is more known.
even if Berto was overhyped ... who has Canelo beat thats better than an undefeated prime Berto?
this could be a big fight if it gets promoted correctly
You think Ortiz is more known in the American Market, than Canelo? NAH Canelo is a big draw in America becasue of the huge Mexican and Mexican American communities that support him more than Ortiz..IMO Berto has always been overhypped, who was Bertos biggest win before the Ortiz fight? Collazo.. Golden Boy needs to cash out on Ortiz before he quits again..
Over hyped or not, it's still better than anything Canelo has done.
Should be properly promoted with more time. Next year in September, put it in Vegas. With the animosity they seem to have towards each other, it could do some prety good numbers.
he's more known to the American market than Canelo.......
what they've accomplished is irrelevant...
plus beating Berto > any win Canelo has.
wouldn't you agree?
You think Ortiz is more known in the American Market, than Canelo? NAH Canelo is a big draw in America becasue of the huge Mexican and Mexican American communities that support him more than Ortiz..IMO Berto has always been overhypped, who was Bertos biggest win before the Ortiz fight? Collazo.. Golden Boy needs to cash out on Ortiz before he quits again..
he's more known to the American market than Canelo.......
what they've accomplished is irrelevant...
plus beating Berto > any win Canelo has.
wouldn't you agree?
I concur. Beating Berto is greater than anything ginger has done to date.
Super Fight? Nah.. What has Ortiz done? Yeah he beat Berto but quit against Maidana and Mayweather.. It makes sense, they are both from Golden Boy and Canelo is their Cash Cow now. They need to cash out on Ortiz before he pulls another of his "I dont deserve to be hit like that" bull****t. LMAO
he's more known to the American market than Canelo.......
what they've accomplished is irrelevant...
plus beating Berto > any win Canelo has.
wouldn't you agree?
this is somewhat of a super fight...... would it be wise to make it in such a short notice?
Super Fight? Nah.. What has Ortiz done? Yeah he beat Berto but quit against Maidana and Mayweather.. It makes sense, they are both from Golden Boy and Canelo is their Cash Cow now. They need to cash out on Ortiz before he pulls another of his "I dont deserve to be hit like that" bull****t. LMAO
this is somewhat of a super fight...... would it be wise to make it in such a short notice?
No way. GBP wants Ortiz, Canelo, & Khan to be stars to carry the company. They dont want them to knock eachother off while there are still plenty of other guys out there for them to fight