It seems Floyd getting hit and being made to actually fight has raised his stock

You've got that reversed buddy. It is Morales who decided to trade because his legs were gone. His fights with Pacquiao confirmed this. He was able to outbox Pac in the first fight but in the second and third thought it was a good idea to stand a trade with Pac and he inevitably was dropped for the first time in his career. If Floyd's legs were really gone he wouldn't have fought on his toes against Miguel Cotto in the championship rounds. i've already acknowledge this

It's not even just Kirkland with you. I've seen what type of comments you've made in the lounge. Does that have something to do with Kirland as well? You and Russian are straight up racists. At least Medved was honest about his shhittt. :lol1::lol1: yeah those 2 mofos are racists...report them bro before they hurt your fruitcake ass some more:lol1:

No, when a warrior chooses to fight it out even though they can clearly outbox their opponent to a 12 round decision .... like lets say Morales their stock goes up when you're forced into a fight because your legs are starting to go like Floyd, his stock really doesn't go up. He might sell a lil more just because people want to see him lose and he's losing his legs and getting older so it might happen You've got that reversed buddy. It is Morales who decided to trade because his legs were gone. His fights with Pacquiao confirmed this. He was able to outbox Pac in the first fight but in the second and third thought it was a good idea to stand a trade with Pac and he inevitably was dropped for the first time in his career. If Floyd's legs were really gone he wouldn't have fought on his toes against Miguel Cotto in the championship rounds.

Yea ok buddy. Anyone with a brain that knows how to read in between the lines, go to the lounge right now and look at any thread with a worldstarhiphop video as the topic and see Maniac's indirect stereotypical generalizational posts. And that's just the tip of the iceberg for starters off the top of my head. LMAO @ baseless. You're racists man, just be straight up with your stuff. stopped reading right there

Floyd's stock didn't rise, it fell and that's the reason for wanting to see the Pac fight even more.

It's not even just Kirkland with you. I've seen what type of comments you've made in the lounge. Does that have something to do with Kirland as well? You and Russian are straight up racists. At least Medved was honest about his shhittt. your baseless accusations disgust me

Everyone knows Maniac and Russian hate on anything African American related. Period. I've seen some of the posts these guys have made in the lounge before (very indirect racey comments), I just stayed quiet in the background; I'm embarrassed for them and anyone that co-signs them as being "cool" posters. :lol1: this whole Kirkland ordeal is consuming you bro.... .....i'm out of this thread though, I don't want to keep derailing Larry's original topic

funny thing is if floyd actually took more risks earlier in his career he would have gotten the credit he deserved the myth that floyd doesn't like to be in a "real" fight have kind of been dispelled now still dont expect him to fight like that everytime Cotto made him have to gut it out credit where it's due though he did just that let's not jump on his nuts too hard though seeing that fight just made me think what could have been had he fought cotto or marg when he should have

And again, if you don't admit to that, it's your choice, I don't care. I'm just trying to make it known that you never keep it 100 on here. You d**k ride almost anything Mexican related every single day. Nope.......

you said he lost speed.... I'm saying he's losing his legs, which you took offense to... and you see this is why we can't have a discussion, you're notorious for putting words in peoples mouths and misinterpreting what they say on purpose to fit your agenda. I never once said Morales fighting hard at this stage of his career raised his stock... literally never once. I didn't even imply it. Since it wouldn't make sense because he has to fight that way and isn't choosing to....I've said since the Maidana fight he should retire since he's clearly past his prime and it's becoming a hazard to his health and well being. I said when a fighter chooses to fight instead of boxing his opponent for 12 rounds even though he clearly could, his stock goes up. I was referring to his early career, and the 12th round of the Pacquiao fight when he turns south paw to go to war with Pacquiao... he didn't have to do that but he obviously chose to do it on purpose... That made his stock go up. and the Abril fight, from the very beginning I acknowledged Abril schooling Rios... and Rios being a limited face first brawler that was bound to get outboxed. The Molina fight I didn't care about. It was the same Hopkins fans that were condemning Molina for clinching which was absolutely laughable .. ....which lead everyone to trolling the Hopkins fans. Apparently that flew right over your head though.. :lol1: i'm waiting to see how you're going to distort my comments this time He lost speed and some of his legs from that 21 month layoff, no doubt. But do his legs look any different than the Mosley and Ortiz fights??? They don't. You said this......"No, when a warrior chooses to fight it out even though they can clearly outbox their opponent to a 12 round decision .... like lets say Morales their stock goes up when you're forced into a fight because your legs are starting to go like Floyd, his stock really doesn't go up." You said Morales choosing to fight like a warrior, even though he could clearly "out box" his opponent, his stock goes up. But when Floyd does that, even though he can out box someone rather easily, he's losing his legs. So I didn't put words in your mouth there. At last we agree Morales should have retired a long time ago, I thought he should have before the Maidana fight, just my opinion. He faded fast. And no you didn't. I'm not going to stroll through tons of pages to find your posts, but you said you would never watch Abril fight again after his display of holding Rios all night. But when Molina did it, you said he was being crafty and schooling Kirkland. That's bias. And again, if you don't admit to that, it's your choice, I don't care. I'm just trying to make it known that you never keep it 100 on here. You d**k ride almost anything Mexican related every single day.

Clearly you didn't read my post. I said the largest slip in Floyd's career came between the Hatton and Marquez fights, during those 21 months??? "C*nt"? Good one man..... You do d**k ride anything Mexican related most of the time. For instance, saying Morales fighting hard at this stage in his career raises his stock, but Floyd doing the same thing is just his legs going, his stock doesn't go up. If that's not straight d**k riding a fighter that hasn't had a good/decent win since Pacquiao 7 years ago, than I don't know what is. And not to mention when Abril held the s**t out of Rios, it was bulls**t in your eyes and not fair. But when Molina did it, and to an even greater extent, he was just being crafty and schooling Kirkland. You don't think that's d**k riding and being bias??? you said he lost speed.... I'm saying he's losing his legs, which you took offense to... apparently criticizing or not pretending Floyd is super human = Trolling :lol1: and you see this is why we can't have a discussion, you're notorious for putting words in peoples mouths and misinterpreting what they say on purpose to fit your agenda. I never once said Morales fighting hard at this stage of his career raised his stock... literally never once. I didn't even imply it. Since it wouldn't make sense because he has to fight that way and isn't choosing to....I've said since the Maidana fight he should retire since he's clearly past his prime and it's becoming a hazard to his health and well being. I said when a fighter chooses to fight instead of boxing his opponent for 12 rounds even though he clearly could, his stock goes up. I was referring to his early career, and the 12th round of the Pacquiao fight when he turns south paw to go to war with Pacquiao... he didn't have to do that but he obviously chose to do it on purpose... That made his stock go up. and the Abril fight, from the very beginning I acknowledged Abril schooling Rios... and Rios being a limited face first brawler that was bound to get outboxed. The Molina fight I didn't care about. It was the same Hopkins fans that were condemning Molina for clinching which was absolutely laughable .. ....which lead everyone to trolling the Hopkins fans. Apparently that flew right over your head though.. :lol1: i'm waiting to see how you're going to distort my comments this time

I don't know why he held Cotto after he buckled his knees in the 12th round(It looked like Cotto held on to him first, but Floyd could've easily turned him as he did in that same round moments later and hit him more. He should've moved out of the way and let Cotto regained his balance on his own. It happened so quickly Floyd didn't even realize he hurt him. When Floyd landed the uppercut he was already moving while Miguel was trying to hug him because he was hurt. Trust me I have watched that segment like 10 times.

that right hand left hook combo was sick.....

I always respected Floyd but never liked him but close to the end i was rooting for him

If he had just boxed and moved and won 12-0 it would have just been another win.but with him banging it out and getting bloody in the process it seems like hardcore fans and HBO seem to respect him more and his next ppv will more than likely sell even more than this one Oh ........

I don't troll everything Floyd related and don't dick ride anything Mexican related... anyone that's actually paid attention to my posts knows this. you actually think Floyd hasn't lost a step since his mid to early career :lol1: delusional cunt Clearly you didn't read my post. I said the largest slip in Floyd's career came between the Hatton and Marquez fights, during those 21 months??? Hatton was his last "prime" fight. But he looked basically the same as the Mosley and Ortiz fights speed and skill wise, as he did against Cotto. And against Marquez, he just stayed in the middle of the ring, because Marquez isn't a pressure fighter who takes you to the ropes, he tries to out box you and counter you. So he just stayed in the center of the ring and out boxed JMM all night. "C*nt"? Good one man.....How old are you, 13??? You do d**k ride anything Mexican related most of the time. For instance, saying Morales fighting hard at this stage in his career raises his stock, but Floyd doing the same thing is just his legs going, his stock doesn't go up. If that's not straight d**k riding a fighter that hasn't had a good/decent win since Pacquiao 7 years ago, than I don't know what is. And not to mention when Abril held the s**t out of Rios, it was bulls**t in your eyes and not fair. But when Molina did it, and to an even greater extent, he was just being crafty and schooling Kirkland. You don't think that's d**k riding and being bias???

My god people.....his legs weret same as the Mosley and Ortiz fights. The only difference is while Ortiz cut the ring off a few times and kept him on the ropes a few times, Miguel cut the ring off a lot and forced him on those ropes, and actually tried to do work in the ropes. He was the same as the Mosley/Ortiz fights, and proved he can box and move, keeping the fight in the middle, the first 4 rounds against Cotto. Tell'em. ....out of all the people that I regularly watch PPV fights with, i'm the only 1 that actually wants to see Floyd win. most just buy it or pitch in as an excuse to drink and throw a party..... and if Floyd loses or gets knocked out... it's a plus that was the sentiment with the Ortiz and Cotto fights anyway Ditto. When Floyd boxes, it is beautiful to watch for us purists. When he mixes up his game though, gets a little dirty, he will get more and more fans. You have to admit, Floyd getting aggressive and walking down these young lions is amazing. Nobody from this point on can question his strength and toughness. He has the best all around game in the past 25-30 years. They don't realize it yet.

....out of all the people that I regularly watch PPV fights with, i'm the only 1 that actually wants to see Floyd win. most just buy it or pitch in as an excuse to drink and throw a party..... and if Floyd loses or gets knocked out... it's a plus that was the sentiment with the Ortiz and Cotto fights anyway I can respect the party aspect of it with folks not being PBF fans seeing lose being a big plus. But if say person orders the fight at home with no one really coming over to watch with just to see PBF lose its crazy. I mean you just spent $70 just to watch someone lose. I don't like what Lebron did in joining the Heat so I want the Heat to lose but I am not going to buy a ticket to a Heat game just to see them lose. There are certain rappers I don't like I wouldn't buy a ticket to the show hoping to see them mess up lyrics or trip and fall while performing. Makes a lot of sense to give money to someone you don't like. To each his own though.

Floyd's legs were the same as the Mosley and Ortiz fights, and pretty much the same as the Marquez fight. Floyd lost some speed during his first layoff, between the Hatton and Marquez fights. Why you troll anything Floyd related and d**k ride anything Mexican related, and I like Mexican fighters, is beyond me. You do it almost everytime you post here. It's as bad as HUGH GRANT jocking anything Pacquiao related. I don't troll everything Floyd related and don't dick ride anything Mexican related... anyone that's actually paid attention to my posts knows this. you actually think Floyd hasn't lost a step since his mid to early career :lol1: delusional cunt

just goes to show how stupid most boxing fans are...